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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#1941 » by Mylie10 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 3:50 pm

I wouldn’t blame it all on Kerr. Chriss snapping his leg had something to do with it.

However, once they knew Wiseman would have to play, then they should have simplified his role by just mimicking Looney and Looneys role.
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#1942 » by Scoots1994 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 4:08 pm

Mylie10 wrote:I wouldn’t blame it all on Kerr. Chriss snapping his leg had something to do with it.

However, once they knew Wiseman would have to play, then they should have simplified his role by just mimicking Looney and Looneys role.


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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#1943 » by Mob Byers » Thu Aug 12, 2021 8:14 pm

I hope they bring back Wiseman really slowly. He needs to get to the point where he can workout his legs again. Seems a bit top heavy now with chicken legs. Not Keon Clark level at least but still.
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#1944 » by Sleepy51 » Thu Aug 12, 2021 11:12 pm

Mob Byers wrote:I hope they bring back Wiseman really slowly. He needs to get to the point where he can workout his legs again. Seems a bit top heavy now with chicken legs. Not Keon Clark level at least but still.



Hopefully he’s been doing a ton of core work along with upper body. Next year’s strength and conditioning goal: build that dump truck. If anything is going to hold this kid back that small ass will do it.
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#1945 » by Scoots1994 » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:19 am

If we assume the trainers are good at their jobs Wiseman won't get hurt on such a basic thing.

I think there's a reasonable chance Wiseman starts game 1 which is funny because last year I kept saying I didn't think he'd start game 1 (or should)
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#1946 » by 510TWSS » Fri Aug 13, 2021 12:45 am

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At least it seems like they see the light after seeing Ayton on how Wiseman should be used. Can only hope they have him focus on setting screens and rolling and being a finisher, rebound and play defense. No more post ups and shooting whenever the hell he feels like it.

There's nothing wrong with postups but the bare minimum he should be very good at what you listed

Yea nothing wrong with posting up unless you’re horrendous at it like wiseman was and yet was still allowed to do it


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Face up jumper or spin right shoulder hook. Surprised Kerr didn't break a clipboard watching JW isolate
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#1947 » by GSWFan1994 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:19 pm



Wises definitely put on a lot of muscle. Look at his shoulders!

Good to see he's already able to practice, albeit in a limited way.
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Post#1948 » by EvanZ » Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:27 pm

GSWFan1994 wrote:

Wises definitely put on a lot of muscle. Look at his shoulders!

Good to see he's already able to practice, albeit in a limited way.


Don't think his shoulders were ever the problem with him.
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Post#1949 » by HiRez » Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:44 pm

OK but who practices in a hoodie sweater vest?
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#1950 » by and1GS » Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:00 pm

HiRez wrote:OK but who practices in a hoodie sweater vest?


What's the point of those? they're very popular at the gym. Is every part of your torso and head cold except your arms?
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#1951 » by HiRez » Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:13 pm

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HiRez wrote:OK but who practices in a hoodie sweater vest?

What's the point of those? they're very popular at the gym. Is every part of your torso and head cold except your arms?

Yeah, I don't get it either. For me it's more like the opposite, maybe I should just buy the cut off arms and use those. I mean if you are actually practicing, moving around, you shouldn't be cold at all.

Anyway, Wiseman needs to get mean and throw a few elbows this year. He actually did a little of that just before he went down, hopefully he didn't forget it.
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#1952 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:18 pm

GSWFan1994 wrote:

Wises definitely put on a lot of muscle. Look at his shoulders!

Good to see he's already able to practice, albeit in a limited way.


looks pretty much the same, his body has never really been his issue tho...he was always the biggest dude out there in HS and college. I have no doubt he'll be that in the NBA once his man body comes in

problem is everything else...its nice to see Kerr take notes from me on the Wiseman-Ayton comp tho...thats Wisemans path to success but Ayton is just more athletic overall and has infinitely better hands.

also looks like dude is still acting like a baby...misses a FT then gets frustrated and botches the second one seemingly on purpose
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#1953 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:44 pm

also why does it feel like it's taking a long time for him to get healthy? or is this standard time?
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#1954 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:45 pm

and1GS wrote:
HiRez wrote:OK but who practices in a hoodie sweater vest?


What's the point of those? they're very popular at the gym. Is every part of your torso and head cold except your arms?


when you want to sweat extra but need your arms free, i train with them all the time.
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#1955 » by ChuckDurn » Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:03 pm

clyde21 wrote:also why does it feel like it's taking a long time for him to get healthy? or is this standard time?

He's actually ahead of the initial recovery time expectations for this type of repair. When he was first operated on, they didn't expect him to be back for training camp.

With most meniscus injuries, there are 2 paths that can be taken:
(A) Trim some of the cartilage away. Recovery time for this is quick (a few weeks), but long-term, this isn't good for the knee to lose some of the cushioning. It ultimately can help lead to arthritis and other issues.
(B) Repair the cartilage by stitching it back together. Recovery time is long (several months), but this is a much superior long-term solution because the cartilage remains whole.

With Wiseman, path B was selected. And his recovery has gone faster than normal, apparently.
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#1956 » by watch1958 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:00 pm

I don’t know fast vs slow. But when he had the surgery they said reevaluate in September
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Re: WISEMAN EXPECTATIONS: Year 1 

Post#1957 » by ChuckDurn » Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:08 pm

watch1958 wrote:I don’t know fast vs slow. But when he had the surgery they said reevaluate in September

Well, it's August, and though he's limited, he's already showing up physically on a basketball court. And there have been numerous reports (I'm just too lazy right now to Google one) saying that he's ahead of the original expectation. It was expected that he might miss training camp and even potentially the start of the season, and barring some kind of setback, he's going to be in training camp.
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