BEARS/Packers - Thursday Night Football - 9/28/2017

[RedBulls23]

It would be house money if the goal was to trick the competition in to thinking he wasnt going to pick a QB in the draft. If he pays alot for Glenoon then people assume he is filling other needs in the draft and thus dont compete at the 3 spot. Then he uses Glennon to buy time for the face of the franchise that he traded up for. As you said its bush league but if it works in the end no one will complain. Signing Glennon for that amount (with all the other holes we have) only makes sense if Pace had an ulterior motive. I'm giving Pace credit that he did his homework on Glennon before signing him and has an idea on how long it takes for one to develop/and or reach his ceiling.

This comes across as a goofy plan by a cartoon villain.

The Bears didn't trick anybody and they still gave up a hefty haul to move up one spot for Trubisky. Glennon hasn't bought any time; he's wasted it. It hasn't worked and people are starting to complain. I'm sure Pace did his homework, but he didn't do it well. All of this at the sacrifice of a terrible secondary and a WR group that's targeting Josh Bellamy and Deonte Thompson.

The irony here is that Glennon looks no more prepared or ready to be a starting NFL QB than Trubisky does. Nothing good or productive came from this scheme.

Not to mention the idea that the McCasky's would allow Pace to just throw away 19 million dollars on a QB he didn't really believe in.

[Axxo]

It would be house money if the goal was to trick the competition in to thinking he wasnt going to pick a QB in the draft. If he pays alot for Glenoon then people assume he is filling other needs in the draft and thus dont compete at the 3 spot. Then he uses Glennon to buy time for the face of the franchise that he traded up for. As you said its bush league but if it works in the end no one will complain. Signing Glennon for that amount (with all the other holes we have) only makes sense if Pace had an ulterior motive. I'm giving Pace credit that he did his homework on Glennon before signing him and has an idea on how long it takes for one to develop/and or reach his ceiling.

This comes across as a goofy plan by a cartoon villain.

The Bears didn't trick anybody and they still gave up a hefty haul to move up one spot for Trubisky. Glennon hasn't bought any time; he's wasted it. It hasn't worked and people are starting to complain. I'm sure Pace did his homework, but he didn't do it well. All of this at the sacrifice of a terrible secondary and a WR group that's targeting Josh Bellamy and Deonte Thompson.

The irony here is that Glennon looks no more prepared or ready to be a starting NFL QB than Trubisky does. Nothing good or productive came from this scheme.

Not to mention the idea that the McCasky's would allow Pace to just throw away 19 million dollars on a QB he didn't really believe in.

He traded up in the draft for a QB after he signed him didn't he. Unless he traded up for someone who he didnt think would be his guy.

And if you guys really think that Pace believed Glennon to be the guy you definitely shouldnt expect to see MT after 4 games.

[RedBulls23]

Glennon was suppose to play the entire season and Trubisky wasn't suppose to be ready.

Keep thinking the McCasky's would be okay with throwing away 19 million dollars on a QB that Pace thought was backup quality.

[Axxo]

I didn't say back up quality. I think he is a borderline starter/backup i.e. bottom 20 QB providing a veteran presence. And according to you guys logic he still threw away 19 mil esp if he benches Glennon after 4 games.

[RedBulls23]

I think if Glennon starts or even Snachez somehow gets the call, it points to Fox being a lame duck coach and Pace is calling the shots in regards to MT.

[RedBulls23]

No, Pace signing Glennon at 19 million indicates he thought highly of him to be more than just some bottom 10 QB. That's been the argument.

Your logic seems to be that they blew 19mill simply to trick everyone that they were going to draft Trubisky. That's illogical, because history says that there is no way the McCaskys allow Pace to do that something like that with their money.

[Axxo]

Glennon was suppose to play the entire season and Trubisky wasn't suppose to be ready.

Right, this is being a place holder for a season.

[Axxo]

No, Pace signing Glennon at 19 million indicates he thought highly of him to be more than just some bottom 20 QB. That's been the argument.

Your logic seems to be that they blew 19mill simply to trick everyone that they were going to draft Trubisky. That's illogical, because history says that there is no way the McCaskys allow Pace to do that something like that with their money.

Then Pace has no idea what he is doing and blew the QB position. If they are forced to throw MT in over that they are in serious trouble.

[molepharmer]

I don't think there's anything mysterious going on here. Pace simply over-evaluated Glennon's ability as a QB. It happens from time to time, within every organization. Maybe Glennon would have a better showing if Meredith and/or White didn't get injured; we'll never know. And from the very beginning once the roster was decided, who manned the QB position has been Pace's call. It's been a very unique situation.

[RedBulls23]

Report: Bears turning to rookie Trubisky at quarterback

https://www.thescore.com/news/1378056

[Axxo]

It would be house money if the goal was to trick the competition in to thinking he wasnt going to pick a QB in the draft. If he pays alot for Glenoon then people assume he is filling other needs in the draft and thus dont compete at the 3 spot. Then he uses Glennon to buy time for the face of the franchise that he traded up for. As you said its bush league but if it works in the end no one will complain. Signing Glennon for that amount (with all the other holes we have) only makes sense if Pace had an ulterior motive. I'm giving Pace credit that he did his homework on Glennon before signing him and has an idea on how long it takes for one to develop/and or reach his ceiling.

This comes across as a goofy plan by a cartoon villain.

The Bears didn't trick anybody and they still gave up a hefty haul to move up one spot for Trubisky. Glennon hasn't bought any time; he's wasted it. It hasn't worked and people are starting to complain. I'm sure Pace did his homework, but he didn't do it well. All of this at the sacrifice of a terrible secondary and a WR group that's targeting Josh Bellamy and Deonte Thompson.

The irony here is that Glennon looks no more prepared or ready to be a starting NFL QB than Trubisky does. Nothing good or productive came from this scheme.

Its a theory, but Pace has shown to be quite the risk taker and sneaky. Lets see if MT plays next game or not.

MT to play. Pace gave up on Glennon. Easiest 18.5 mil ever.

[NZB2323]

A big part of Glennon's contract is that only the first year was guaranteed. I'll defend Pace and Fox a little bit. It's not like Aaron Rodgers and Matt Ryan were lining outside of the Bears office hoping to sign with us, and they wanted to get a veteran quarterback as a stop gap that they wouldn't have to pay money to beyond the first year.

What I really think they should be criticized for is not giving their quarterback good receivers. They let Alshon Jeffery and Matt Forte walk, and I'm really worried that Money Mitch will have trouble. In the preseason he played against third string defenses with third string receivers. Now he'll be playing against first team defenses with third string receivers.

[Axxo]

Looks like MT will be running for his life for 12 games looking for a target.

[CjayC]

Don't push the narrative of receivers not getting open

[chitownsports4ever]

[quote="CjayC"]Don't push the narrative of receivers not getting open

Thats narrative still remains

I will give you the rundown on a typical Bears game offensively

when they get a clean snap there is likely to be penalty
when a wideout gets open Glennon may miss him
when a wide out gets open and Glennon doesnt miss him they drop the pass
This all occurs on occasions when someone doesnt blow a assignment giving up the sack .

Its why I called them a calamity of errors they simply make too many mistakes and while Glennon leads the mess and should be be replaced he really was just covering up things that been going on dating back to last season.

I look forward to having something to talk about with the Bears besides Glennon next week.

[RedBulls23]

Don't push the narrative of receivers not getting open

Thats narrative still remains

I will give you the rundown on a typical Bears game offensively

when they get a clean snap there is likely to be penalty
when a wideout gets open Glennon may miss him
when a wide out gets open and Glennon doesnt miss him they drop the pass
This all occurs on occasions when someone doesnt blow a assignment giving up the sack .

Its why I called them a calamity of errors they simply make too many mistakes and while Glennon leads the mess and should be be replaced he really was just covering up things that been going on dating back to last season.

I look forward to having something to talk about with the Bears besides Glennon next week.

Also Glennon will over throw him or behind him or to the wrong reciever...

What also occurs is Glennon is a statue, and holds onto the ball and gives up a sack.

This offense has flaws no doubt, the oline has its struggles and the WRs are bad, but Glennon does his best to make all those flaw looks much worse.

Lastly, If Glennon had any awareness in the pocket he could help avoid those sacks. Again holding on the ball too long.

[RedBulls23]

I don't expect Trubisky to fix all the oline and WR issues we have on this team, but maybe by opening the playbook up more it could help take some pressure off the oline by getting MT on the move. The WRs could benefit too with more play options, + defenses having to worry about MT running for yards.

In the end with Glennon playing this poorly, it makes sense to get Trubisky put there to take his lumps and start his development.