Different DC after this season?

MalikJoakim24 · Post #1 » by **MalikJoakim24** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 2:25 pm

What do you guys think about firing Mel Tucker at the end of this season and replacing him with a competent DC.

The Bears defense has gotten worse under Tucker so far and absolutely no defensive line rush at all. A person that I would love to have is Ron Rivera, who is on the hot seat in Carolina & probably going to be fired.

patryk7754 · Post #2 » by **patryk7754** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:42 pm

Rivera would be great but I doubt we fire tucker after one season

blumeany · Post #3 » by **blumeany** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:52 pm

Yeah, but right now it's hard to distinguish if it's a coaching/scheme issue or just a talent issue. By all accounts, Tucker came in to in the same system. Biggest change on the D were the linebackers, who seem to be more of a solution than a problem. Was Izzy better than we thought? Because aside from injury, that's the only change on the line. D Line wasn't getting after it even when Melton was in there.

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bearadonisdna · Post #4 » by **bearadonisdna** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:04 pm

blumeany wrote:Yeah, but right now it's hard to distinguish if it's a coaching/scheme issue or just a talent issue. By all accounts, Tucker came in to in the same system. Biggest change on the D were the linebackers, who seem to be more of a solution than a problem. Was Izzy better than we thought? Because aside from injury, that's the only change on the line. D Line wasn't getting after it even when Melton was in there.

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The arent exactly getting after without melton either.

The 6ft Hurdle · Post #5 » by **The 6ft Hurdle** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:27 am

Hey this might sound like a darkhorse out-of-nowhere choice, but have you guys ever heard of Lovie Smith? That dude was a monster with those Tampa Bay defenses and at one point for almost 10 years in the league, he had the most takeaways in the league! Whatever happened to him?

MalikJoakim24 · Post #6 » by **MalikJoakim24** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:25 am

The 6ft Hurdle wrote:Hey this might sound like a darkhorse out-of-nowhere choice, but have you guys ever heard of Lovie Smith? That dude was a monster with those Tampa Bay defenses and at one point for almost 10 years in the league, he had the most takeaways in the league! Whatever happened to him?

Lovie would be so much better as DC than Tucker but Lovie would never take the job nor would we offer it. If the job is open, I would think that Ron Rivera would take it.

bearadonisdna · Post #7 » by **bearadonisdna** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:39 am

MnM24 wrote:
The 6ft Hurdle wrote:Hey this might sound like a darkhorse out-of-nowhere choice, but have you guys ever heard of Lovie Smith? That dude was a monster with those Tampa Bay defenses and at one point for almost 10 years in the league, he had the most takeaways in the league! Whatever happened to him?

Lovie would be so much better as DC than Tucker but Lovie would never take the job nor would we offer it. If the job is open, I would think that Ron Rivera would take it.

Its an interesting idea but under rivera tommie harris became the first melton.

MalikJoakim24 · Post #8 » by **MalikJoakim24** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:40 am

patryk7754 wrote:Rivera would be great but I doubt we fire tucker after one season

If the d continues like this, send benny da bull to pack Tuckers bag and drop him off at ohare

babblin-on · Post #9 » by **babblin-on** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:29 pm

Don't know if I'd throw Tucker under the bus yet. The defense suffered for a couple years under Lovie as well, as after the Super Bowl year Mark Anderson came back to earth, Harris declined with injuries, and Ogunleye got old. Defense wasn't great again until they broke the bank for Peppers.

Lovie and Marinelli were not magicians. Without the personnel to pressure the QB on the front 4, this defense simply doesn't worj.
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The 6ft Hurdle · Post #10 » by **The 6ft Hurdle** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:14 pm

babblin-on wrote:Don't know if I'd throw Tucker under the bus yet. The defense suffered for a couple years under Lovie as well, as after the Super Bowl year Mark Anderson came back to earth, Harris declined with injuries, and Ogunleye got old. Defense wasn't great again until they broke the bank for Peppers.

Lovie and Marinelli were not magicians. Without the personnel to pressure the QB on the front 4, this defense simply doesn't worj.
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We weren't ever bottom-feeding bad like our unit seems to be striving for in a hurry.

babblin-on · Post #11 » by **babblin-on** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:24 pm

The 6ft Hurdle wrote:
babblin-on wrote:Don't know if I'd throw Tucker under the bus yet. The defense suffered for a couple years under Lovie as well, as after the Super Bowl year Mark Anderson came back to earth, Harris declined with injuries, and Ogunleye got old. Defense wasn't great again until they broke the bank for Peppers.

Lovie and Marinelli were not magicians. Without the personnel to pressure the QB on the front 4, this defense simply doesn't worj.
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We weren't ever bottom-feeding bad like our unit seems to be striving for in a hurry.

Bears were 28th in total defense in 07'. Better than the ranking thus far this season, but they also had Urlacher and weren't starting guys off the street at DT

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heir_jordan22 · Post #12 » by **heir_jordan22** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:25 pm

The only way he's fired is if we end up at the bottom of the league defensively and miss the playoffs.

Cliff Levingston · Post #13 » by **Cliff Levingston** » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:51 pm

heir_jordan22 wrote:The only way he's fired is if we end up at the bottom of the league defensively and miss the playoffs.

Wrong. If he's fired, ICLO, it's because Emery and Trestman want to go in a different direction with the defense. Briggs, Tillman, Jennings, Peppers, Melton, Wright, Wootton, Williams, Anderson and Collins are all up for contract next year. If they want to go toward a 3-4 or keep the 4-3 but change the philosophy then next year is the year to do it. Tucker may or may not be the right guy to lead that new defense and that'll determine if he's back or not.

This year, the problem with the defense is all personnel on the defensive line. We've lost both our 3 technique tackles which are critical to making the Tampa-2 scheme work, further compounded by Peppers playing like an undrafted free agent and Wootton and McClellin both severely underwhelming. It's a domino effect from there.