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Re: PG Week 2: A Win is a Win 

Post#41 » by Kerb Hohl » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:46 pm

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Ayt wrote:I'm arguing about how **** stupid the new rule is. I really don't care if it is a player with us or with some other team. I hate the current interpretation. At some point an extremely controversial call will be made and the rule will be changed. I'd prefer that they change the rule before that.

Yeah. My only point is that there is no definition for "processing the catch". Can I catch the ball at the 5 on a swing pass, get clipped as I catch it and stumble forward into the endzone only to lose the ball when I hit the ground and it isn't a catch? You may as well get rid of the "ground can not cause a fumble" rule if that is the interpretation.


Actually, Arian Foster had a play similar to that last year.

He caught it at the 2 and stumbled into the endzone. To support himself when he got in (this was after about 3-4 steps) he used the hand with the ball in it to prop himself up and it popped out.

Incomplete pass. Once again, the rule is enforced the stupid way they say it should be.
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Re: PG Week 2: A Win is a Win 

Post#42 » by Ill-yasova » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:48 pm

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Ill-yasova wrote:
Ayt wrote:I'm arguing about how **** stupid the new rule is. I really don't care if it is a player with us or with some other team. I hate the current interpretation. At some point an extremely controversial call will be made and the rule will be changed. I'd prefer that they change the rule before that.

Yeah. My only point is that there is no definition for "processing the catch". Can I catch the ball at the 5 on a swing pass, get clipped as I catch it and stumble forward into the endzone only to lose the ball when I hit the ground and it isn't a catch? You may as well get rid of the "ground can not cause a fumble" rule if that is the interpretation.


Actually, Arian Foster had a play similar to that last year.

He caught it at the 2 and stumbled into the endzone. To support himself when he got in (this was after about 3-4 steps) he used the hand with the ball in it to prop himself up and it popped out.

Incomplete pass. Once again, the rule is enforced the stupid way they say it should be.

Fair enough. That does set a precedence.
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Re: PG Week 2: A Win is a Win 

Post#43 » by Kerb Hohl » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:50 pm

Yeah, my friend that loves to complain about how the world is out to get him in fantasy came in handy there. He was livid about that play because he had Arian Foster so I watched it a handful of times and remember it vividly.
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Re: PG Week 2: A Win is a Win 

Post#44 » by Ayt » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:52 pm

GrendonJennings wrote:
Ill-yasova wrote:
Ayt wrote:I'm arguing about how **** stupid the new rule is. I really don't care if it is a player with us or with some other team. I hate the current interpretation. At some point an extremely controversial call will be made and the rule will be changed. I'd prefer that they change the rule before that.

Yeah. My only point is that there is no definition for "processing the catch". Can I catch the ball at the 5 on a swing pass, get clipped as I catch it and stumble forward into the endzone only to lose the ball when I hit the ground and it isn't a catch? You may as well get rid of the "ground can not cause a fumble" rule if that is the interpretation.


Actually, Arian Foster had a play similar to that last year.

He caught it at the 2 and stumbled into the endzone. To support himself when he got in (this was after about 3-4 steps) he used the hand with the ball in it to prop himself up and it popped out.

Incomplete pass. Once again, the rule is enforced the stupid way they say it should be.


How moronic. Good job, NFL.

It will take an extremely important game to come down to this type of call before they change this BS.
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Re: PG Week 2: A Win is a Win 

Post#45 » by Bernman » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:56 pm

- If a ballcarrier reaches the ball across the goal line it's dead immediately.
- If a receiver catches a ball at the sideline and takes two step (let alone 4) before going out of bounds while not juggling it constitutes a catch
- If a ballcarrier has possession and hits the ground the play is dead immediately

They are contradicting so many other rules/combinations on the books with the catch process requirement in the end zone and if they ajudge Finley's play to be a proper interpretation of said rule.

In addition, they're supposedly trying to protect the players, but if you're a defender there's justification within the rules to continue hitting a player for seconds after he's laying prone in the end zone with the football. You could prevent a TD by doing so.

Regardless what would have been the outcome, MM should have challenged in case he found a referee with common sense in use of discretion. It was such a pivotal moment in the game. They couldn't for the life of them make it a two-score game in the 2nd half between that play and the inexplicable decision by MM to go 5-wide empty on 3rd and goal from the 1, when they should have run twice, or at least use the run threat to set up the pass when you have so much congestion in that part of the field.
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Re: PG Week 2: A Win is a Win 

Post#46 » by Ayt » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:08 pm

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Re: PG Week 2: A Win is a Win 

Post#47 » by Newz » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:08 pm

NE's TEs are insane.
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Re: PG Week 2: A Win is a Win 

Post#48 » by Ayt » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:12 pm

Newz wrote:NE's TEs are insane.


I love their 2 TE offense. We need to run the same thing in our no huddle. **** Kuhn. Put 2 TEs out there with a single HB and 2 WR and go wild in multiple formations.

We could run everything from a power I to a 4 WR set or even a 5 WR set with Starks lined up in the slot.

Finley gives us enormous flexibility in our no huddle, but if you combine him with an improved Q or a very athletic Williams you have an offensive package a D can't deal with when they can't sub regularly. If they go with a base 4-3 or 3-4, we can kill them in the air. If they play a nickel, we can kill them with a great mix of run and pass.

I'm looking forward to our offense in a no huddle later in the year with Q and Finley at TE. Those two provide the best mix of run blocking and receiving.
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Re: PG Week 2: A Win is a Win 

Post#49 » by an_also » Mon Sep 19, 2011 2:19 pm

Listening to Rodgers postgame, sounds like he checked out of the run to the Play action pass to Jordy for the last TD.
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Re: PG Week 2: A Win is a Win 

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Re: PG Week 2: A Win is a Win 

Post#51 » by BUCKnation » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:01 pm

im surprised that rule wasnt an issue during the lockout

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