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Re: Report: Pack offer Favre $20 million to stay home 

Post#101 » by Neusch23 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:59 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:I think there would have been a split Lockerroom either way. When they made their decision for Rodgers who thought that Favre would go this far to only play for the vikings.

As for the Grant thing and d-line you have valid points, but separate issues from this Favre thing.


I think that the Packers have to have been able to look into the future to know what Brett was going to do. People there had known him for basically 16 years. If he told them that he was going ot report, that he wanted to play, they should have been able to have a good idea what would happen, and it probably wouldn't have been as bad as it is.

I believe that you can't ignor the other football issues that are out there. We are what, 10 days away from our first game against Cincy, I believe? The packers need to get going, get stuff done.

If, when Brett wrote his letter asking for a release, they should have either brought him on the team, and delt with it as basically only the team. The media wouldn't have been as big, and it would have been mostly pro packers. But they pushed the issue. Which is fine, so they moved on. Big deal. Then they should have got a list from Brett, which we all know would have been just the Vikes, then they could have made their decision to either back track, and bring Brett in, or trade him to Minny.

Don't mis-lead the fans, don't stumble and lie to make yourself look better, Packers. Make your decision and live with it.

Either way Brett is going to be under center for a team September 8th, at Lambeau....
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Re: Report: Pack offer Favre $20 million to stay home 

Post#102 » by xTitan » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:02 pm

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MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:I think there would have been a split Lockerroom either way. When they made their decision for Rodgers who thought that Favre would go this far to only play for the vikings.

As for the Grant thing and d-line you have valid points, but separate issues from this Favre thing.


I think that the Packers have to have been able to look into the future to know what Brett was going to do. People there had known him for basically 16 years. If he told them that he was going ot report, that he wanted to play, they should have been able to have a good idea what would happen, and it probably wouldn't have been as bad as it is.

I believe that you can't ignor the other football issues that are out there. We are what, 10 days away from our first game against Cincy, I believe? The packers need to get going, get stuff done.

If, when Brett wrote his letter asking for a release, they should have either brought him on the team, and delt with it as basically only the team. The media wouldn't have been as big, and it would have been mostly pro packers. But they pushed the issue. Which is fine, so they moved on. Big deal. Then they should have got a list from Brett, which we all know would have been just the Vikes, then they could have made their decision to either back track, and bring Brett in, or trade him to Minny.

Don't mis-lead the fans, don't stumble and lie to make yourself look better, Packers. Make your decision and live with it.

Either way Brett is going to be under center for a team September 8th, at Lambeau....



I will maintain to the end, the plan was always to be a Viking, so why the hell give in to him? Mike Sherman is no longer running the show, thank God....if Favre REALLY just wanted to play he should have a whole list of teams he is willing to play for, but it really only boils down to one team and it is the Vikings......this is so transparent yet the Favre loyalists can't see it.
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Re: Report: Pack offer Favre $20 million to stay home 

Post#103 » by Neusch23 » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:11 pm

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MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:I think there would have been a split Lockerroom either way. When they made their decision for Rodgers who thought that Favre would go this far to only play for the vikings.

As for the Grant thing and d-line you have valid points, but separate issues from this Favre thing.


I think that the Packers have to have been able to look into the future to know what Brett was going to do. People there had known him for basically 16 years. If he told them that he was going ot report, that he wanted to play, they should have been able to have a good idea what would happen, and it probably wouldn't have been as bad as it is.

I believe that you can't ignor the other football issues that are out there. We are what, 10 days away from our first game against Cincy, I believe? The packers need to get going, get stuff done.

If, when Brett wrote his letter asking for a release, they should have either brought him on the team, and delt with it as basically only the team. The media wouldn't have been as big, and it would have been mostly pro packers. But they pushed the issue. Which is fine, so they moved on. Big deal. Then they should have got a list from Brett, which we all know would have been just the Vikes, then they could have made their decision to either back track, and bring Brett in, or trade him to Minny.

Don't mis-lead the fans, don't stumble and lie to make yourself look better, Packers. Make your decision and live with it.

Either way Brett is going to be under center for a team September 8th, at Lambeau....



I will maintain to the end, the plan was always to be a Viking, so why the hell give in to him? Mike Sherman is no longer running the show, thank God....if Favre REALLY just wanted to play he should have a whole list of teams he is willing to play for, but it really only boils down to one team and it is the Vikings......this is so transparent yet the Favre loyalists can't see it.


name one "Favre Loyalist" on this board who doesn't agree with what you just wrote. I said it several days ago that his list was two teams that he wanted to play for, the Packers or the Queens. I haven't seen one person who is more on Brett's side ever say that this wasn't the case.
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Re: Report: Pack offer Favre $20 million to stay home 

Post#104 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:29 pm

You're wrong on one thing. He doesn't want to play for the Packers. Like King said weeks ago, he respects Rodgers and doesn't want to take his job. His one goal is to get to Minnesota.
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Re: Report: Pack offer Favre $20 million to stay home 

Post#105 » by InsideOut » Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:48 pm

Can someone explain to me if Favre wanted to be a Viking from day one then why are people here supporting him and ripping the Packers? It's like cheering for a traitor.
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Re: Report: Pack offer Favre $20 million to stay home 

Post#106 » by Neusch23 » Fri Aug 1, 2008 12:16 am

DrugBust wrote:You're wrong on one thing. He doesn't want to play for the Packers. Like King said weeks ago, he respects Rodgers and doesn't want to take his job. His one goal is to get to Minnesota.


I disagree. Why is he saying that if offered he would win the starting job? That is a newer quote than King's opinion.

He wants to play this year, and he would rather do it in GB.
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Re: Report: Pack offer Favre $20 million to stay home 

Post#107 » by xTitan » Fri Aug 1, 2008 12:38 am

InsideOut wrote:Can someone explain to me if Favre wanted to be a Viking from day one then why are people here supporting him and ripping the Packers? It's like cheering for a traitor.


Because his fanbase doesn't want to believe he would to that to him, many have put there heads in the sand about this but it all makes sense......hell, go back as far as the Letterman interview and it appears the wheels were turning to get out of GB. He hates the fact that TT and MM didn't listen to him the way Sherman did, he wanted to be more than what he is...a football player. Favre's best friend left in the NFL plays for the Vikings and it is the perfect way to stick it to the Packers.
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Re: Report: Pack offer Favre $20 million to stay home 

Post#108 » by InsideOut » Fri Aug 1, 2008 1:03 am

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InsideOut wrote:Can someone explain to me if Favre wanted to be a Viking from day one then why are people here supporting him and ripping the Packers? It's like cheering for a traitor.


Because his fanbase doesn't want to believe he would to that to him, many have put there heads in the sand about this but it all makes sense......hell, go back as far as the Letterman interview and it appears the wheels were turning to get out of GB. He hates the fact that TT and MM didn't listen to him the way Sherman did, he wanted to be more than what he is...a football player. Favre's best friend left in the NFL plays for the Vikings and it is the perfect way to stick it to the Packers.


I agree that makes sense. Didn't he say in the interview with Gretta than he wanted out of GB because TT didn't sign Moss, the O-line guys and interview his buddy Mooch for the head coaching job? It also makes sense because Favre always said he only wanted to play to win Super Bowls. He didn't care about the money or records. Yet after we went 4-12 and 8-8 he kept coming back even though nobody including himself thought we had a shot in the world at the Super Bowl. Now he's on a young, 13-3 team with plenty of cap flexability and one of the top picks to win a Super Bowl and that is when he decides to retire. He says one thing but his actions are the opposite. Stuff like I want out of GB yet he won't talk to teams that want to trade for him or provide a list of teams he'd want to be traded to.
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Re: Report: Pack offer Favre $20 million to stay home 

Post#109 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Aug 1, 2008 2:22 am

I heard on the radio that the Jets and Packers may be in serious talks.
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Post#110 » by Neusch23 » Fri Aug 1, 2008 2:35 am

DrugBust wrote:I heard on the radio that the Jets and Packers may be in serious talks.


and also that he was considering a position as a merchandise consultant...sounds like a buy out.

I would be very surpised if he went to play for the Jets.
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Post#111 » by Buck You » Fri Aug 1, 2008 2:37 am

ESPNEWS said that Favre is considering a deal the Packers gave him to stay retired.
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Post#112 » by ClassicJack » Fri Aug 1, 2008 2:47 am

ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:ESPNEWS said that Favre is considering a deal the Packers gave him to stay retired.



The only way I can see him accepting that deal is if during the sideshow of a meeting yesterday they reiterated that there was still no way they were trading him to the Queens. That would conflict with the JS report though and Mark Murphy and the FO are imbeciles, so yeah I don't believe for a second he's considering that deal.



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Re: Report: Pack offer Favre $20 million to stay home 

Post#113 » by Reddeye » Fri Aug 1, 2008 2:51 am

ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:ESPNEWS said that Favre is considering a deal the Packers gave him to stay retired.


ESPNEWS is saying that Favre is considering taking a marketing and merchandising deal from The Packers that would keep him in retirement. They also said that the Packers talked to Favre about this deal in March after Favre retired. I wonder is someone got their facts wrong about a $20 million buyout. Adam Schefter said he was told that $20 million dealwas never offered.

A reporter covering the Favre situation said no trade of Favre is imminent.
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Re: Report: Pack offer Favre $20 million to stay home 

Post#114 » by paulpressey25 » Fri Aug 1, 2008 3:16 am

They had Tom Pipines on Fox Six just now. Not that he's in the know but he's up at Lambeau. Said that talks between Packers and Jets were "heating up" and said that the $20mm figure was "way overblown and not $20mm"

Also they had on the screen that statement from Goodell's office that he would not act on Favre's reinstatement yet since Favre and the team were still engaged in dialogue.

FWIW.

I really don't see the guy getting his way to go to Minnesota. I'd go with the Jets or retirement options.

And if he stays retired, he'll still get his way if Rodgers gets hurts or sucks. You know if that happens we'll all be wanting him to come back to finish out the season....and he'll be the most powerful man in GB again.
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Post#115 » by Neusch23 » Fri Aug 1, 2008 3:26 am

Mark me down, Brett will be a Viking tomorrow.

Packers don't want him, I would be surpised if he took said deal for merch and marketing....unless he is under center for us, he will be traded to the queens.
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Post#116 » by xTitan » Fri Aug 1, 2008 3:27 am

And if he stays retired, he'll still get his way if Rodgers gets hurts or sucks. You know if that happens we'll all be wanting him to come back to finish out the season....and he'll be the most powerful man in GB again.



Oh please, he is going to be 39, do people forget that? He hasn't worked out this off season a lick, missed the early camps, is missing training camp....throwin ballz to Billy Bob and Smash wouldn't get an athlete in his prime ready much less one who is approaching 40....this is the NFL, not MLB.
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Post#117 » by Neusch23 » Fri Aug 1, 2008 3:29 am

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And if he stays retired, he'll still get his way if Rodgers gets hurts or sucks. You know if that happens we'll all be wanting him to come back to finish out the season....and he'll be the most powerful man in GB again.



Oh please, he is going to be 39, do people forget that? He hasn't worked out this off season a lick, missed the early camps, is missing training camp....throwin ballz to Billy Bob and Smash wouldn't get an athlete in his prime ready much less one who is approaching 40....this is the NFL, not MLB.


acutally, you're wrong. He has been working out with the same trainer, and harder than he has any off season.

He is also motivated to prove everyone wrong. I have no doubt that he is in great shape. You don't take something this far if you're not ready to go.
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Post#118 » by Reddeye » Fri Aug 1, 2008 3:31 am

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And if he stays retired, he'll still get his way if Rodgers gets hurts or sucks. You know if that happens we'll all be wanting him to come back to finish out the season....and he'll be the most powerful man in GB again.


I wonder if Favre would want to comeback if Rodgers gets hurt. I think his love of the game and teammates would outweigh his hatred toward the organization. The Packers might have to make an agreement with him that he can have as long as he wants next offseason to decide on retirement if he plays well.
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Post#119 » by xTitan » Fri Aug 1, 2008 3:34 am

acutally, you're wrong. He has been working out with the same trainer, and harder than he has any off season.

He is also motivated to prove everyone wrong. I have no doubt that he is in great shape. You don't take something this far if you're not ready to go.


I don't believe he has worked out with the trainer he has used in the past, as a matter of fact Mortenson said several weeks ago he looks in good shape despite not having his trainer and we were all lead to believe he wasn't serious about coming back until the beginning of July.
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Post#120 » by El Duderino » Fri Aug 1, 2008 3:37 am

Obviously i'd rather Brett went to any team other than the Vikings, but at this point, i'd much rather have him traded to Minnesota than any scenario where this drags out significantly longer.

Not only am i way past tired of the saga, the whole situation is being played out all over the place with media mocking the Packers organization like it's being run by a bunch of buffoons. The players i'm sure are even more tired of it than fans and want to get to work at becoming a good team, vs running Where is Favre camp.

Plus, we have the fan game on Sunday and the last thing Rodgers needs is him throwing a pick and half the crowd chanting We Want Brett if he's on the sideline. If for pretend the only two options were have Brett in camp for awhile creating chaos or trading him to the Jets for only a 7th round pick, i'd make the trade faster than Rosie O'Donnell can polish off a bag of cookies.

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