Training Camp Thread

Godgers · Post #141 » by **Godgers** » Wed Aug 6, 2014 7:51 pm

I predict these starters to end up on IR.

Nelson
Lacy
Bakhtiari
Datone Jones
Hyde

I expect these players to be injured for at least half the season.

Mathews
Perry
Neal

Wooderson · Post #142 » by **Wooderson** » Wed Aug 6, 2014 7:59 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:Is there any data that shows we are way ahead of everyone in injuries? Like Number of games missed by top 40 players? I just wonder if we are in a bubble and after getting hit so hard a few years back, it seems like we have more than normal.

Football Outsiders Adjusted Games Lost stat has the Pack in the top 3 most hit by injuries in 3 of the last 4 years.

2008: 17th
2009: 25th
2010: 3rd
2011: 16th
2012: 1st
2013: 3rd

Here's 2013s recap.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-a ... games-lost

This is how they weight games lost.

With Football Outsiders' Adjusted Games Lost (AGL) metric, we are able to quantify how much teams were affected by injuries based on two principles: (1) Injuries to starters, injury replacements and important situational reserves matter more than injuries to bench warmers; and (2) Injured players who do take the field are usually playing with reduced ability, which is why Adjusted Games Lost is based not strictly on whether the player is active for the game or not, but instead is based on the player's listed status that week (IR/PUP, out, doubtful, questionable or probable).

So I don't believe they take into consideration how good a player is.

I think we've just been unlucky a few times of late and it's been magnified because the injuries have occurred to critical players. We've also been unfortunate to have career ending/altering injuries to Collins/Bishop/Finley.

nyrfan28 · Post #143 » by **nyrfan28** » Wed Aug 6, 2014 8:58 pm

as of right now, the injuries are just thinning the team's depth.

i'm still bracing for the injury to a significant starter that will directly affect their win total this season.

jakecronus8 · Post #144 » by **jakecronus8** » Thu Aug 7, 2014 3:28 pm

Godgers wrote:I predict these starters to end up on IR.

Nelson
Lacy
Bakhtiari
Datone Jones
Hyde

I expect these players to be injured for at least half the season.

Mathews
Perry
Neal

chuckleslove · Post #145 » by **chuckleslove** » Thu Aug 7, 2014 3:31 pm

I can't believe there are people who don't have Godgers on ignore, thanks for quoting that horrible post so I had to see it

Reddeye · Post #146 » by **Reddeye** » Thu Aug 7, 2014 7:05 pm

McGinn on Cobb

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-randall-cobb-holds-future-in-his-hands-b99325318z1-270266911.html

Reddeye · Post #147 » by **Reddeye** » Thu Aug 7, 2014 8:47 pm

The oblique strain that Green Bay Packers safety Morgan Burnett sustained in practice this week will keep him out of Saturday's preseason opener at the Tennessee Titans.

BUCKnation · Post #148 » by **BUCKnation** » Fri Aug 8, 2014 2:30 am

MickeyDavis wrote:If anyone has some great ideas on what the Packers are doing wrong and what they can do to reduce the number of injuries I'm sure the team would love to hear from you.

More yoga. (srs btw)

wichmae · Post #149 » by **wichmae** » Fri Aug 8, 2014 3:06 am

chuckleslove wrote:I can't believe there are people who don't have Godgers on ignore, thanks for quoting that horrible post so I had to see it

Yes! Please stop quoting the troll ****. Just ignore him. Your life will be so much better..

GB_Packers · Post #150 » by **GB_Packers** » Fri Aug 8, 2014 2:37 pm

Ryan Braun, Matt Garza and now Morgan Burnett. The year of the oblique strain. Doubt Burnett would have played much on Saturday anyways so it's not the end of the world.

Buckrageous · Post #151 » by **Buckrageous** » Sat Aug 9, 2014 7:51 pm

Reddeye wrote:
The oblique strain that Green Bay Packers safety Morgan Burnett sustained in practice this week will keep him out of Saturday's preseason opener at the Tennessee Titans.

He may just be playing for his job pretty soon. Hyde is looking good at one S spot, Richardson getting constant praise from media and coaches at his spot, a versatile 1st rounder is waiting in the wings, and Burnett is getting paid much more than all of them. I dont know how close Richardson or HHCD are to starting in the minds of the coaches but backup S's dont make what Burnett makes.

And I hope McGinn is misreading the Cobb situation. He needs to have a big year if they are going to contend. Plus that opens up a number of fantasy questions and Id like to at least have a feel for the Packers going into the draft.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #152 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Sat Aug 9, 2014 8:32 pm

I don't think there's anyway Burnett gets cut this summer. Now if he doesn't perform maybe he gets benched but even that's unlikely. If the young safeties continue to develop this very well could be his last season in green bay. It's nice to actually have some depth at safety for once.

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Buckrageous · Post #153 » by **Buckrageous** » Sat Aug 9, 2014 8:42 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:I don't think there's anyway Burnett gets cut this summer. Now if he doesn't perform maybe he gets benched but even that's unlikely. If the young safeties continue to develop this very well could be his last season in green bay. It's nice to actually have some depth at safety for once.

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Agreed. No point in cutting him this summer and it is nice to have depth. But if they need money next offseason.....

Post #154 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:38 pm

MMs comments after practice today

(Jordy Nelson and Davante Adams) Jordy has a hamstring and Adams (wrist). Boyd has a ribs injury.
(Rajion Neal) Not a long term injury.
(Neal) Good run decision, thought ran strong. Ran his course. Like his finish on TD run.
(Joe Thomas) Knee. Standing around the pile. Not long-term either.
(Saturday night) It was probably one of the best preseason games I've been apart of. Can't create that training environment. You do wet ball drills and all those things, even off-season. But to even play hits every part of operation. Headsets went out and players were making calls on the field. Handling the football, tackling, footwork. Great opportunity. Nice that it was still warm. Not like rain game in Chicago in '99. It's 34 degrees and you'd wish it would snow.
(Nelson extent of injury) Not long-term. Day-to day.
(Derek Sherrod) Frankly, that might have been the best he's played since he's been here.
(Brandon Bostick) Gifted athlete, basic philosophy is big target going down the field and he gives you that.
(Scott Tolzien) I thought he played very well. Lost ball, but came back and got touchdown. Wanted to see him play faster. Tempo was good.Liked the way Scott played.
(Jeff Janis) We're hoping to get him in a positon to play in a game. He's raw. He needs the work. He's a big athletic receiver.
(Anyone jump out) I thought a number of guys. Joe Thomas huge play on the kickoff and then gets hurt. Neal played well. Garth (Garhart) played well. Sam Barrington played well. Secondary did a nice job. HaHa had one nice missed tackle and came back and made soem good plays.
(Practice) Very good. Like an in-season Wednesday practice. 2-minute was competitive. I thought we ran the bll. Second and third defense didn't play that well.
(Sam Barrington) I think he was thinking too much last year. Hesitant. He's much more comfortable. Comes in and knocks ball out. Has big hit ability. I think he's just letting it go better.
(Young receivers) It's why have preseason games (to see them). I'd like to see them jump out. Clearly will come down to the end. That group has the most depth we've had here.

Ayt · Post #155 » by **Ayt** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 10:44 pm

Sherrod looked great. Tretter also looked very good.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #156 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:14 pm

Ayt wrote:Sherrod looked great. Tretter also looked very good.

yup its very encouraging with sherrod because he actually has the natural ability to be a really good tackle. If he stays healthy it would be not only huge for this season but possibly as a starter if bulaga is too expensive next yr.

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chuckleslove · Post #157 » by **chuckleslove** » Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:47 pm

I thought Sherrod had an uphill battle to make the team this year coming off of an injury, with the Barclay injury the door is certainly wide open for him to be a backup swing tackle. Could be one of the better stories this year a guy battling back after a nasty injury to have an impact.

WiscSports1 · Post #158 » by **WiscSports1** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:42 am

Based on his play Sat night, Sherrod is no longer a finesse guy. He has gotten much stronger and that is key for him. Tretter also had a great game.

BUCKnation · Post #159 » by **BUCKnation** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:47 am

I couldn't really pay attention to anyone specifically other than the RB's with the terrible conditions. There seemed to a lot more scrubs than normal in the 2nd half though (not surprising). I'll definitely have a list of guys to watch for next game.

I'm happy to hear about Sherrod doing well though. Helps ease the pain of the Barclay injury.

JabariParker12 · Post #160 » by **JabariParker12** » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:49 pm

I'm happy to hear about Sherrod doing well though. Helps ease the pain of the Barclay injury.

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