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Re: ATL Offseason - Watt to the Cardinals 

Post#1801 » by Profound23 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 3:40 pm

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Re: ATL Offseason - Watt to the Cardinals 

Post#1802 » by M-C-G » Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:03 pm

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Profound23 wrote:So (supposedly) Carolina offered three firsts for Watson, including pick 8. If you are Houston and don't take that....that tells me you don't trust yourselves to draft well.

Or that they’d rather have Watson


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Well if you wanted Watson it would have been better to stop trading away all of your draft picks only to trade one of the top 3 wrs for a broken down RB and a 2nd rounder. At this point it's too late, take what you can get and start over. Three firsts including the #8 pick this year? I am taking that at this point.


Wonder if they are sitting on something with Miami. Although it would be pretty embarrassing that the best assets coming back for your star QB would be your own draft picks you traded them.

Tua, pick 3, 18, 36 this year, first from Miami next year would be a pretty good reboot deal. Assuming the Lawrence and Wilson go with the first two picks, they could trade down with a team that wants Fields and wants to get in head of ATL. Draft Sewell, Chase or Devonta Smith and profit.
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Re: ATL Offseason - Watt to the Cardinals 

Post#1803 » by RRyder823 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:08 pm

Profound23 wrote:So (supposedly) Carolina offered three firsts for Watson, including pick 8. If you are Houston and don't take that....that tells me you don't trust yourselves to draft well.
What it tells me (if I were Houston) is that they aren't quite dumb enough to trade Watson

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Re: ATL Offseason - Watt to the Cardinals 

Post#1804 » by RRyder823 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:10 pm

Profound23 wrote:
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Profound23 wrote:So (supposedly) Carolina offered three firsts for Watson, including pick 8. If you are Houston and don't take that....that tells me you don't trust yourselves to draft well.

Or that they’d rather have Watson


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Well if you wanted Watson it would have been better to stop trading away all of your draft picks only to trade one of the top 3 wrs for a broken down RB and a 2nd rounder. At this point it's too late, take what you can get and start over. Three firsts including the #8 pick this year? I am taking that at this point.


Didn't realize Watson was 35 years old



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Re: ATL Offseason - Watt to the Cardinals 

Post#1805 » by Matches Malone » Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:18 pm

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Profound23 wrote:So (supposedly) Carolina offered three firsts for Watson, including pick 8. If you are Houston and don't take that....that tells me you don't trust yourselves to draft well.
What it tells me (if I were Houston) is that they aren't quite dumb enough to trade Watson

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I have a weird feeling he's going to end up in San Francisco. They can give Houston picks along with Jimmy G, which by the looks of it, it seems like the new GM down there might be collecting some ex-Patriots.
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Re: ATL Offseason - Watt to the Cardinals 

Post#1806 » by Profound23 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 4:32 pm

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Well if you wanted Watson it would have been better to stop trading away all of your draft picks only to trade one of the top 3 wrs for a broken down RB and a 2nd rounder. At this point it's too late, take what you can get and start over. Three firsts including the #8 pick this year? I am taking that at this point.


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Oh not too late for Watson, too late for an organization that has done everything possible to not support their QB. People complain about the Packers not getting Rodgers weapons.....look at what Houston did to Watson. I would want out too. I don't think there is any way to mend their relationship so take 3 firsts while you can imo.
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Re: ATL Offseason - Watt to the Cardinals 

Post#1807 » by Kerb Hohl » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:31 pm

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Well if you wanted Watson it would have been better to stop trading away all of your draft picks only to trade one of the top 3 wrs for a broken down RB and a 2nd rounder. At this point it's too late, take what you can get and start over. Three firsts including the #8 pick this year? I am taking that at this point.


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Oh not too late for Watson, too late for an organization that has done everything possible to not support their QB. People complain about the Packers not getting Rodgers weapons.....look at what Houston did to Watson. I would want out too. I don't think there is any way to mend their relationship so take 3 firsts while you can imo.


The Houston roster isn't wildly different than Packers circa 2017 or 2018.

I think guys like Watson don't realize how quickly it can change back. Watson's odds of success are better in Houston than most trade destinations. Houston can start building over their cap issues right now. Instead, if he was trade to Chicago, they'd be left with minimal cap space and no 1st round picks for 5 years. I realize Houston did that to themselves but they are now at least on the tail end of it.

Miami I could see, but it makes sense for almost no parties involved to trade these guys. Not Houston, maybe the team acquiring him (but they'd have a hard time building), and probably not even Watson, though I understand he doesn't like the organization.
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Re: ATL Offseason - Watt to the Cardinals 

Post#1808 » by Treebeard » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:45 pm

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Oh not too late for Watson, too late for an organization that has done everything possible to not support their QB. People complain about the Packers not getting Rodgers weapons.....look at what Houston did to Watson. I would want out too. I don't think there is any way to mend their relationship so take 3 firsts while you can imo.


The Houston roster isn't wildly different than Packers circa 2017 or 2018.

I think guys like Watson don't realize how quickly it can change back. Watson's odds of success are better in Houston than most trade destinations. Houston can start building over their cap issues right now. Instead, if he was trade to Chicago, they'd be left with minimal cap space and no 1st round picks for 5 years. I realize Houston did that to themselves but they are now at least on the tail end of it.

Miami I could see, but it makes sense for almost no parties involved to trade these guys. Not Houston, maybe the team acquiring him (but they'd have a hard time building), and probably not even Watson, though I understand he doesn't like the organization.


That's assuming Houston's management knows what they're doing. Cal McNair is an incompetent meddler. The GM needs to be a genius for the team just to achieve mediocrity.
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Re: ATL Offseason - Watt to the Cardinals 

Post#1809 » by RRyder823 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:59 pm

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Profound23 wrote:

Well if you wanted Watson it would have been better to stop trading away all of your draft picks only to trade one of the top 3 wrs for a broken down RB and a 2nd rounder. At this point it's too late, take what you can get and start over. Three firsts including the #8 pick this year? I am taking that at this point.


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Oh not too late for Watson, too late for an organization that has done everything possible to not support their QB. People complain about the Packers not getting Rodgers weapons.....look at what Houston did to Watson. I would want out too. I don't think there is any way to mend their relationship so take 3 firsts while you can imo.
Things can turn around quick in the NFL and Watson just signed his contract. He might be unhappy now but there's plenty of time to mend fences. If he can be happy enough to sign an extension and then get to the point were he wants out within less then a years time it stands to reason the reverse is also possible if given say 2 years.

He's young enough that it's not like there isn't time to rebuild around him and even if they took his request to trade him they'd be investing those resources into "hoping" to find a young QB like Watson but only a few years younger while still trying to build the surrounding team. So great. You have exactly the same window as if you just kept Watson but with the caveat that it's very unlikely you'll find a young QB of that caliber

Point being the Texans aren't trading him unless he sits out (and I mean actually does not just threatens to) the entire season and then they "might" think about taking 3-5 1sts.

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Re: ATL Offseason - Watt to the Cardinals 

Post#1810 » by Kerb Hohl » Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:06 pm

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Oh not too late for Watson, too late for an organization that has done everything possible to not support their QB. People complain about the Packers not getting Rodgers weapons.....look at what Houston did to Watson. I would want out too. I don't think there is any way to mend their relationship so take 3 firsts while you can imo.


The Houston roster isn't wildly different than Packers circa 2017 or 2018.

I think guys like Watson don't realize how quickly it can change back. Watson's odds of success are better in Houston than most trade destinations. Houston can start building over their cap issues right now. Instead, if he was trade to Chicago, they'd be left with minimal cap space and no 1st round picks for 5 years. I realize Houston did that to themselves but they are now at least on the tail end of it.

Miami I could see, but it makes sense for almost no parties involved to trade these guys. Not Houston, maybe the team acquiring him (but they'd have a hard time building), and probably not even Watson, though I understand he doesn't like the organization.


That's assuming Houston's management knows what they're doing. Cal McNair is an incompetent meddler. The GM needs to be a genius for the team just to achieve mediocrity.


Do we trust the Jets, Dolphins, or Bears armed with minimal draft picks to do much better?

I do agree that logically the Jets and Dolphins may give him a better supporting cast and they already have assets amassed to deal for Watson, but otherwise the teams that Watson and Wilson want to go to will suck worse than their current teams after dealing for them.

And more importantly, basically no team in the NFL has enough assets to give up for either of those guys.
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Re: ATL Offseason - Watt to the Cardinals 

Post#1811 » by neiLz » Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:43 pm

AJ Green to cards for 1 year deal up to 8.5 mil(6 guaranteed)? people thought he was going to take a bargain deal... thats a HUGE overpay.
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Re: ATL Offseason - Watt to the Cardinals 

Post#1812 » by M-C-G » Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:16 pm

neiLz wrote:AJ Green to cards for 1 year deal up to 8.5 mil(6 guaranteed)? people thought he was going to take a bargain deal... thats a HUGE overpay.


I'm wondering if the price for Fuller is a 1 year 5-7.5M dollar deal and then jump back on the market next year when the cap is back up?
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Re: ATL Offseason - Watt to the Cardinals 

Post#1813 » by jakecronus8 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:00 pm

With Watson this whole situation feels to me like the relationship got frayed due to on the field stuff, but now feels like it got personal somewhere along the line.
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Re: ATL Offseason - Watt to the Cardinals 

Post#1814 » by Profound23 » Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:41 pm

Panthers got a steal

Reddick for 1 year/6 with 2 mil in incentives
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Re: ATL Offseason - Watt to the Cardinals 

Post#1816 » by sdn40 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:21 am

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neiLz wrote:AJ Green to cards for 1 year deal up to 8.5 mil(6 guaranteed)? people thought he was going to take a bargain deal... thats a HUGE overpay.


I'm wondering if the price for Fuller is a 1 year 5-7.5M dollar deal and then jump back on the market next year when the cap is back up?


LOL. You're dreamin. Peterson just signed a covid deal. There was never gonna be 1yr/$5m bargains from good players. They'd probably just sit out a year
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Re: ATL Offseason - Watt to the Cardinals 

Post#1817 » by Profound23 » Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:57 am

Peterson to Minnesota hurts....I know he isn't what he used to be but still a good player
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Re: ATL Offseason - Watt to the Cardinals 

Post#1818 » by neiLz » Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:01 am

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neiLz wrote:AJ Green to cards for 1 year deal up to 8.5 mil(6 guaranteed)? people thought he was going to take a bargain deal... thats a HUGE overpay.


I'm wondering if the price for Fuller is a 1 year 5-7.5M dollar deal and then jump back on the market next year when the cap is back up?


LOL. You're dreamin. Peterson just signed a covid deal. There was never gonna be 1yr/$5m bargains from good players. They'd probably just sit out a year

Starting to agree. No real ring chasers. There will be one year deals. But the player will get money. Aj green was nuts. Peterson was a solid 1 year deal for vikes.
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Re: ATL Offseason - Watt to the Cardinals 

Post#1819 » by LittleRooster » Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:48 am

Lions signed Boyle and I’m way more upset than I should be


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Re: ATL Offseason - Boyle to the Lions 

Post#1820 » by humanrefutation » Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:14 am

Boyle is going to start for them at one point.

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