2023 College Football Discussion

[ReasonablySober]

I still think UGA should be in over texas and bama.

It's impossible to make that case.

[MickeyDavis]

No way Georgia should be in. Weak schedule and didn't win their conference.

[ReginaldDwight]

They are the two time defending champs.....they kinda got screwed with that awful call before half tonight. Still not sure how they missed that drop. I just take the Texas Bama **** out of it and put UGA in. No number 1 ranked team that lost in the championship game has been left out I think, so something has to give.

[ReginaldDwight]

This narrative that Bama got so much better is kinda lame. Acting like Texas couldnt have gotten any better also is hilarious when they boat raced their title game.

[ReginaldDwight]

Either way reddit CFB should be hilarious tomorrow.

[ReasonablySober]

They are the two time defending champs.....they kinda got screwed with that awful call before half tonight. Still not sure how they missed that drop. I just take the Texas Bama **** out of it and put UGA in. No number 1 ranked team that lost in the championship game has been left out I think, so something has to give.

No they're not. They lost ten players to the draft from last year's squad. This year's Georgia team isn't close to the teams from the last two seasons.

[coolhandluke121]

Georgia played a relatively weak schedule and looked far from dominant doing so. The last two years have literally NOTHING to do with this year's final four. There's no case for them.

Screw the people wanting FSU out. Their schedule, despite lacking signature wins, is nothing like an undefeated Group of 5 team. They can't leave out an undefeated ACC champ. We all know they'd be underdogs against any of the other top 6 teams, but it's not about odds, it's about resumes. Some people still have trouble getting that through their heads after all these years, but it's pretty unequivocal.

[MikeIsGood]

God what beautiful chaos. Just beautiful. I still can't get myself to believe they'll actually leave Bama out, but the cards have fallen perfectly to do so. Put up or shut up, committee - time to leave out the SEC, or tell the world that they're all you really care about.

[Mags FTW]

The best argument I've seen for keeping FSU out is that if you gave Michigan their choice of 1st round opponent, they would rather play FSU than Bama.

Pivotal decision for the committee. They are going to set precedent as to whether a team deserves to make it based solely on merit vs. current roster construction. Will come into play more as the field expands.

[coolhandluke121]

Pivotal decision for the committee. They are going to set precedent as to whether a team deserves to make it based solely on merit vs. current roster construction. Will come into play more as the field expands.

They've already set that precedent though, including when OSU was in with a 3rd-string QB. They have shown time and again that it's about merit and resume. The controversies have essentially only been about which resume was better, not about whether that's the criteria.

The only difference this time is that selecting by merit would hurt their ratings so much more than usual. In the past, they didn't have to make such huge sacrifices to select by merit, despite the occasional TCU or Cincinnati getting in over a helmet school. But they have proven they'll make that sacrifice before, and I see no reason that they won't do it again.

[MickeyDavis]

I see the selection show is 4 hours . Ridiculous. I'll be watching Red Zone.

[Mags FTW]

Pivotal decision for the committee. They are going to set precedent as to whether a team deserves to make it based solely on merit vs. current roster construction. Will come into play more as the field expands.

They've already set that precedent though, including when OSU was in with a 3rd-string QB.

That team beat Wisconsin 59-0 in the B10 Title game. They were nothing like the FSU team that struggled to score against Louisville last night.

[MVP2110]

Pivotal decision for the committee. They are going to set precedent as to whether a team deserves to make it based solely on merit vs. current roster construction. Will come into play more as the field expands.

They've already set that precedent though, including when OSU was in with a 3rd-string QB. They have shown time and again that it's about merit and resume. The controversies have essentially only been about which resume was better, not about whether that's the criteria.

The only difference this time is that selecting by merit would hurt their ratings so much more than usual. In the past, they didn't have to make such huge sacrifices to select by merit, despite the occasional TCU or Cincinnati getting in over a helmet school. But they have proven they'll make that sacrifice before, and I see no reason that they won't do it again.

Doesn't Texas have a massive fanbase? If it's between Texas & Bama then I'd think Texas would provide larger ratings

[trwi7]

Pivotal decision for the committee. They are going to set precedent as to whether a team deserves to make it based solely on merit vs. current roster construction. Will come into play more as the field expands.

They've already set that precedent though, including when OSU was in with a 3rd-string QB.

That team beat Wisconsin 59-0 in the B10 Title game. They were nothing like the FSU team that struggled to score against Louisville last night.

Of course FSU was down to their 3rd string QB and he was horrible but Rodemaker should be back for the playoff game and while he's not Travis or anywhere close to it he's a lot better than Glenn so I'm not going to put a ton of stock into FSU struggling to score against Louisville and the defense is legit. Held LSU to their lowest point total of the year and dominated last night.

[MVP2110]

Seems Wisconsin might be headed for a New Years day bowl in Tampa after yesterday's results. That's pretty wild

[MikeIsGood]

Pivotal decision for the committee. They are going to set precedent as to whether a team deserves to make it based solely on merit vs. current roster construction. Will come into play more as the field expands.

They've already set that precedent though, including when OSU was in with a 3rd-string QB. They have shown time and again that it's about merit and resume. The controversies have essentially only been about which resume was better, not about whether that's the criteria.

The only difference this time is that selecting by merit would hurt their ratings so much more than usual. In the past, they didn't have to make such huge sacrifices to select by merit, despite the occasional TCU or Cincinnati getting in over a helmet school. But they have proven they'll make that sacrifice before, and I see no reason that they won't do it again.

Doesn't Texas have a massive fanbase? If it's between Texas & Bama then I'd think Texas would provide larger ratings

I think Texas is unquestionably in. It's Bama vs. FSU for the 4th spot.

[MVP2110]

They've already set that precedent though, including when OSU was in with a 3rd-string QB. They have shown time and again that it's about merit and resume. The controversies have essentially only been about which resume was better, not about whether that's the criteria.

The only difference this time is that selecting by merit would hurt their ratings so much more than usual. In the past, they didn't have to make such huge sacrifices to select by merit, despite the occasional TCU or Cincinnati getting in over a helmet school. But they have proven they'll make that sacrifice before, and I see no reason that they won't do it again.

Doesn't Texas have a massive fanbase? If it's between Texas & Bama then I'd think Texas would provide larger ratings

I think Texas is unquestionably in. It's Bama vs. FSU for the 4th spot.

Is Bama's fanbase that much larger than Florida Sts? Both seem like they have pretty large fan bases

[trwi7]

Alabama probably has a much larger bandwagon fan base since they've been good for so long. Florida State has some success several years ago but haven't consistently been great.

[coolhandluke121]

Pivotal decision for the committee. They are going to set precedent as to whether a team deserves to make it based solely on merit vs. current roster construction. Will come into play more as the field expands.

They've already set that precedent though, including when OSU was in with a 3rd-string QB.

That team beat Wisconsin 59-0 in the B10 Title game. They were nothing like the FSU team that struggled to score against Louisville last night.

So what if FSU didn't dominate? Alabama and Georgia have struggled to put away mediocre teams multiple times this season too. And it's not a comparison of that OSU team vs. this FSU team, it's a comparison of where that OSU team stood relative to their rivals for the last playoff spot in 2014-15 vs. where FSU stands relative to their rivals for the last spot this year. OSU got the spot because they had a better resume than TCU, despite many people (wrongly) thinking they weren't going to be competitive with Cardale Jones. And that was TCU and OSU each having one loss and similar resumes! So you think they're going to keep undefeated FSU out because they played their 3rd-string QB last night now, just because the other team is Bama? I say no way.

The committee has been very clear about not directly accounting for injuries in their rankings. Injuries only matter once the resume starts to suffer as a result, and struggling to put away a very good Louisville team does not qualify, especially when none of their rivals for the last spot has been great this year.

[MikeIsGood]

I was really hoping this would be like Selection Sunday for March Madness where we rip off the bandaid right away and then talk for the next 3 hours and 50 minutes. That would be too pleasant, I guess.