2021 Packers News, Trades, Transactions - Sternberger Released

[JayMKE]

you will never be happy because you are framing the pick that Love prevented Rodgers from getting to the Super Bowl. Which is a ludicrous notion.

Why is that? I still hold it against TT not trading a 4th round pick for Randy Moss. Love if he ever plays in Green Bay will have to live up to his predecessor same as Rodgers did, if this is the reason Rodgers leaves its going to be even more pressure too. The team picking Rodgers happened after he fell from the potential #1 spot, we traded up for Love and it doesn’t even seem like he was even the best QB on the board. The issue isn’t so much trying to develop a QB over a few years as it is taking the guy in the 1st round, its a very confusing decision.

[stillgotgame]

It is amazing that the entire fan base is once again split down the middle, with half saying give in to the diva QB at all cost, and half saying the GM needs to be fired for using a pick on a QB instead of adding weapons.

It is so unreal, Packers fan civil war all over again.

I am curious how many people that were behind Favre are behind Rodgers now versus team. And how many team people that were with TT are now behind Rodgers this time around.

Has to be a fascinating psychological study in here somehow that would obviously lead to world peace.

As a Packer shareholder I’d fire Murphy for allowing this to happen. What a cluster.

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[stillgotgame]

Can you imagine Gute going to Rodgers house in California and explaining to him why he can’t extend his contract beyond 2021.
“Well Aaron, we’re in cap hell in ‘22. I planned it that way because you were declining so rapidly and thought a physically talented developmental guy would be ready by then. So I loaded up the cap, knowing your salary is going to come off. I’m kinda stuck here Aaron. I know you’re the first MVP hall of fame QB to ever be on a lame duck contract, but you’re kind of a diva. I’d offer you another year but then I lose my financial advantage of having Love as a starter on a rookie contract. My training tells me that’s a key metric that needs to be obtained in order to build a winner”

I’m sure that went well.

[MickeyDavis]

Wow, sounds like Gute is an idiot. Great evaluator of talent but no clue how to manage people. Explains why he’s not a regular GM, with MLF reporting to him.
What a mess.

Let's pretend Aaron Rodgers is a typical person, acting in a typical way, in a typical situation. Sure.

Gute’s job is people.
Fail.

Rodgers needs a therapist, it's not Gutes job.

[JayMKE]

It is amazing that the entire fan base is once again split down the middle, with half saying give in to the diva QB at all cost, and half saying the GM needs to be fired for using a pick on a QB instead of adding weapons.

It is so unreal, Packers fan civil war all over again.

I am curious how many people that were behind Favre are behind Rodgers now versus team. And how many team people that were with TT are now behind Rodgers this time around.

Has to be a fascinating psychological study in here somehow that would obviously lead to world peace.

As a Packer shareholder I’d fire Murphy for allowing this to happen. What a cluster.

Consider the fact this almost exact scenario happened at the beginning of his tenure too, that’s two pretty big black marks on a president of a team. Rodgers didn’t play some retirement game or looked anywhere near as cooked as Favre did, I don’t believe Favre ever said be would never play a team GM’d by TT so this situation is way worse than last time too.

FWIW I was anti-TT and pro-Favre at the time so I don’t think I’ve changed too much, I ate crow because Rodgers turned out to be better and they won a Superbowl. High bar to clear. Also was in the keep Giannis at all costs even at risk of him walking group too. If Giannis demanded Horst got fired who do you support? I think its pretty easy decision.

[dietac]

[If Giannis demanded Horst got fired who do you support? I think its pretty easy decision.

If Giannis was 37, I’d side with Horst.

[RRyder823]

It is amazing that the entire fan base is once again split down the middle, with half saying give in to the diva QB at all cost, and half saying the GM needs to be fired for using a pick on a QB instead of adding weapons.

It is so unreal, Packers fan civil war all over again.

I am curious how many people that were behind Favre are behind Rodgers now versus team. And how many team people that were with TT are now behind Rodgers this time around.

Has to be a fascinating psychological study in here somehow that would obviously lead to world peace.

As a Packer shareholder I’d fire Murphy for allowing this to happen. What a cluster.

Consider the fact this almost exact scenario happened at the beginning of his tenure too, that’s two pretty big black marks on a president of a team. Rodgers didn’t play some retirement game or looked anywhere near as cooked as Favre did, I don’t believe Favre ever said be would never play a team GM’d by TT so this situation is way worse than last time too.

FWIW I was anti-TT and pro-Favre at the time so I don’t think I’ve changed too much, I ate crow because Rodgers turned out to be better and they won a Superbowl. High bar to clear. Also was in the keep Giannis at all costs even at risk of him walking group too. If Giannis demanded Horst got fired who do you support? I think its pretty easy decision.

You've brought this up multiple times and just because you keep mentioning it doesn't make it a good analogy



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[UWM_Brew_Buck]

Rodgers and Giannis are apples and oranges. I do think this is mostly overblown and I hope be is back next year but if he doesn’t want to play he can sit or get traded.

[MickeyDavis]

This is great

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[JayMKE]

I’m siding with the guy that actually wears the jersey and wins games, if Giannis was pissed at Horst the same way Rodgers is at Gute I wouldn’t blame him either and if that was the only way to keep our MVP its an easy decision.

[Mags FTW]

Sums up how I feel about Rodgers' feelings. You are paid to do a job. DO IT

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[M-C-G]

you will never be happy because you are framing the pick that Love prevented Rodgers from getting to the Super Bowl. Which is a ludicrous notion.

Why is that? I still hold it against TT not trading a 4th round pick for Randy Moss. Love if he ever plays in Green Bay will have to live up to his predecessor same as Rodgers did, if this is the reason Rodgers leaves its going to be even more pressure too. The team picking Rodgers happened after he fell from the potential #1 spot, we traded up for Love and it doesn’t even seem like he was even the best QB on the board. The issue isn’t so much trying to develop a QB over a few years as it is taking the guy in the 1st round, its a very confusing decision.

You took him in the first because as long as we have a healthy Rodgers, they didn't feel like they would have a chance to get that caliber of talent. Which regardless of your, my, the pundits, or anyone outside of our front office evaluation of Love, they felt they were in the same exact position of TT did with Favre and they acted accordingly.

[Balls2TheWalls]

I think that part of the struggle is that people don't see Rodgers the way everyone was seeing him last year when we picked Love. He looked like maybe he was on the decline. Instead of saying he is some sort of god on the field, the pundits were talking about how he might be done and that he was falling out of the elite conversation as a quarterback. People are framing the Love pick and decision as though Rodgers had come off an MVP campaign in the season previous. I think that the Packers will sit on Aaron Rodgers. They will do their best to fix the relationship, but Rodgers asking for Gute's job is ridiculous.

Gute admitted his fault by offering an extension with additional guaranteed money. Gute has also done an incredible job of both adding an influx of new talent through the draft and free agency and extending the Packer stars.

I very much hope they can just work through it. It feels like there are better ways to bridge the gap of hurt feelings than by asking for a successful GM To be fired. If it can't be worked out, I hope the Packers sit on Rodgers unless someone trades us a King's Ransom.

[Vasquectomy]

Happy May Day everybody!

I am celebrating the last month of Rodgers stay with the Packers. It’s been glorious cheering for the GOAT.

Too bad for Murphy and Gutekowski that the smartest guy in the room - and the guy who knows football and the Packers better than anyone else alive - is a current ball-player instead of one of them.

NFL management as demonstrated by Brandt’s “empathy blah blah compassion blah blah” talk earlier in the thread - it only goes so far.

Maybe Packers management didn’t want to slip down a slope by involving “the help” in big boy decisions. But their own decisions also have consequences. Pretty soon they will have their own reckoning.

I hope after Rodgers retires, he starts some 1880s-baseball-style player-run league. Or, he reunites with the Packers, after the board of directors widens their scope beyond traditional top-down 21st century corporate management practices.

Aaron Rodgers is as replaceable as Alex Trebek.

[ReasonablySober]

you will never be happy because you are framing the pick that Love prevented Rodgers from getting to the Super Bowl. Which is a ludicrous notion.

Why is that? I still hold it against TT not trading a 4th round pick for Randy Moss. Love if he ever plays in Green Bay will have to live up to his predecessor same as Rodgers did, if this is the reason Rodgers leaves its going to be even more pressure too. The team picking Rodgers happened after he fell from the potential #1 spot, we traded up for Love and it doesn’t even seem like he was even the best QB on the board. The issue isn’t so much trying to develop a QB over a few years as it is taking the guy in the 1st round, its a very confusing decision.

You took him in the first because as long as we have a healthy Rodgers, they didn't feel like they would have a chance to get that caliber of talent. Which regardless of your, my, the pundits, or anyone outside of our front office evaluation of Love, they felt they were in the same exact position of TT did with Favre and they acted accordingly.

That's an underrated point.

I don't get people who prefer to wait until after Rodgers is done to address the need at QB. For one **gestures around at the last 16 years**. It worked out pretty well the last time.

Second, it would mean a dumpster fire year (at best) hoping to land a high pick in a draft with a great QB prospect.

The alternative is so much better. Love gets to sit, learn, and step in with a championship caliber roster.

[M-C-G]

I think that part of the struggle is that people don't see Rodgers the way everyone was seeing him last year when we picked Love. He looked like maybe he was on the decline. Instead of saying he is some sort of god on the field, the pundits were talking about how he might be done and that he was falling out of the elite conversation as a quarterback.

His elite TD:INT was covering a lot of other declining numbers.

[LittleRooster]

I think Rodgers got lazy with his footwork and mechanics, in part because he could and in part because he couldn’t stand McCarthy anymore.

From a GM perspective, you see a guy who is “declining” and not the player he was, it makes sense why they took a qb. I probably still wouldn’t have done it, but I get it.

That lights a fire under Rodgers and he finally goes back and watches old film and goes back to his older mechanics. He also buys into MLF’s offense.

I truly don’t believe the above wouldn’t have happened if we didn’t take a qb though. I’m not sure he had that motivation anymore or he wasn’t pissed off enough, I don’t know.


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[Balls2TheWalls]

I think that part of the struggle is that people don't see Rodgers the way everyone was seeing him last year when we picked Love. He looked like maybe he was on the decline. Instead of saying he is some sort of god on the field, the pundits were talking about how he might be done and that he was falling out of the elite conversation as a quarterback.

His elite TD:INT was covering a lot of other declining numbers.

I believe he was called a "throwaway king." I know that Dov Kleinman did nothing but call him out for not trying to make plays and essentially losing games through trying to protect his TD:INT ratio. Rodgers may be MVP this year, but there were a lot of questions about his game.

Also, if you think about taking a QB this year, where does Love go? You can't watch Trey Lance's film and tell me that Jordan Love goes after this guy. That pick the 49ers moved up to get using 2 1sts, a 1st swap, and a 3rd is not as good as the guy we got at the back end of the first last year on film. Interesting stuff.

[M-C-G]

Let me start with this, I do not think Rodgers will retire, I just don't see it. But if he did, what happens to our cap? Does his cap just disappear?