Official: Pacers Acquire Pascal Siakam

WuTang_CMB · Post #41 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:46 pm

Congrats
great deal for you guys

LoveMyRaps · Post #42 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:50 pm

boomershadow wrote:I realize Siakam is so good, but I feel like we just started hitting a groove with the Turner/Jackson, Smith/Toppin lineup. I'm on the fence about the move tbh.

You realize you didn't give up any of those guys right? Or any young asset for that matter.

Post #43 » by **Grang33r** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:53 pm

Updated story from woj- https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/39330081/sources-pacers-acquire-pascal-siakam-trade-raptors-pelicans

Post #44 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:53 pm

Indy’s first is top 3 protected this year, and the 2026 1st is top 4 protected into 2027 before becoming 2nds.

Oakvillehoops · Post #45 » by **Oakvillehoops** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:55 pm

Damn, ya’ll got him for nothing. He’s gonna thrive on your team

Post #46 » by **Grang33r** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:58 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Congrats
great deal for you guys

Thank you.

It's been a long time coming to be in a spot to be able to pull the trigger and be excited for the run they appear to be headed to be on.

Post #47 » by **Grang33r** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:02 pm

"Expected to re-sign him"

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Ell Curry · Post #48 » by **Ell Curry** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:05 pm

What to expect:
-Really good scoring inside with Turner stretching the floor. He slithers inside, draws fouls, finishes well. When there's space in the lane, he'll get to the rim.
-Slightly below average to average 3pt shooting (he was horrific from 3 early in the year and has been hot lately, but his career averages once you throw out the first 2 years when he couldn't shoot yet is 33.7%, which feels about right, though my guess is it goes up 1-2% since Haliburton is a better late-clock option than we've had since Kawhi, and Siakam was at 36% then, which is probably more about not having to take an extra bad 3 every 5 games or so)
-Good at running the floor. Used to be great, might be age creeping in, or he might get back to that with a better running team like yours.
-Good but not great rebounder. He's gone from 8 to 6 a game but that's probably because Scottie is around. If Nesmith is your 3, I think he'll get back to 8 or so.
-Nice fit with all your shooting. We didn't have enough, but you have a lot, and if you keep Hield and throw out Haliburton-Hield-Nesmith-Siakam-Turner I think you can get 26-27 a game from Pascal (at the pace you play at) on pretty efficient shooting. Team is still lacking defensively, but offensively it's basically a perfect fit if you keep Hield (or replace him with another gunner).

Question mark:
-His defence has really declined from very, very good to slightly below average, but it's more about him focusing and being locked in than a physical decline, so I won't be surprised if it improves. Not a stopper, but moves okay. More breakdowns off the ball than on it, for sure.

jowglenn · Post #49 » by **jowglenn** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:19 pm

LETS GO!!!! I have been making Siakam trades for over a year - this is easily the best guy we could get without giving up any of our current young guys.

Perfect place for Siakam, too, he finally gets to play with a straight-up pass-first point guard, and it will impact his scoring and he will look amazing.

Will be interesting to see if he can return to being the defensive force that he's capable of, and what we need to go against Giannis, Tatum, Butler, etc

Post #50 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:21 pm

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Post #51 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:21 pm

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Post #52 » by **Grang33r** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:34 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:

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the 2026 first round pick appears to be top-4 protected.

Post #53 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:37 pm

Grang33r wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:

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the 2026 first round pick appears to be top-4 protected.

Yes.

Scoot McGroot wrote:Indy’s first is top 3 protected this year, and the 2026 1st is top 4 protected into 2027 before becoming 2nds.

Post #54 » by **Grang33r** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:47 pm

Ahh missed that. My bad.

ButterflyRave · Post #55 » by **ButterflyRave** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:49 pm

It's interesting (but maybe not as relevant as i'm making it out to be in my head) that Siakam and Nembhard share an agent. this summer's negotiations with Pascal might give insight into what to expect when it's time to extend Andrew, or potentially decline/re-sign him in 25-26

Parataxis · Post #56 » by **Parataxis** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:51 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:Indy’s first is top 3 protected this year, and the 2026 1st is top 4 protected into 2027 before becoming 2nds.

If the 2024 pick doesn't convey, does it move to 2025?

Wizop · Post #57 » by **Wizop** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:54 pm

early reports say Siakim is happy to with the trade.

Pacers_Freak · Post #58 » by **Pacers_Freak** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:03 pm

Grang33r wrote:"Expected to re-sign him"

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That is the most important part of this deal from the Indiana side of things.

Post #59 » by **Grang33r** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:10 pm

Pacers_Freak wrote:
That is the most important part of this deal from the Indiana side of things.

I never get the fear of him walking to be such a big turn off for the fans. And im saying this with him not re-signed. The money is available, the chance to play for coach Carlisle, play with a super star PG in Haliburton. The ball is in Indy's hands, they have him in the building, now keep him. If they keep trending the right direction i have no doubt he will re-sign.

granger05 · Post #60 » by **granger05** » Wed Jan 17, 2024 9:12 pm

Is there a window where we can extend Siakam or is it a guarantee that this goes into UFA before a contract gets signed?