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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#661 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Sep 6, 2024 4:31 am

thesack12 wrote:I'm quite surprised that Kyle named Allen as QB2 over Dobbs.

I'm not a big pro Dobbs guy, but he had a good preseason while Allen was pretty pedestrian. But I don't see the practices, maybe Allen has consistently shined in those.


Allen runs the offense that way Kyle wants it run. He played well in the preseason, but had several drops that depressed his numbers. Dobbs is more of a spontaneous guy. He can make big plays, but he isn't great at making his way through reads and hitting the open guy in rhythm.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#662 » by RIPskaterdude » Fri Sep 6, 2024 2:52 pm

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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#663 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Sep 6, 2024 5:49 pm

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WentzerWuver wrote:If Jaylon is as bad as you think he is, why didn't Lynch draft an OT in day 1 or 2 instead of reaching for a receiver? We need to find if Lynch is right or wrong on how capable Moore is now to block for Purdy and not later when it matters.


It's a question I have asked myself many times during and since the draft. I can see passing in round one as the top OTs were gone. But I could have lived with Suamataia in Round 1. Passing on him in Round 2 blew my mind. Obviously the FO has a lot more faith in Moore than I do, but he struggled in the preseason. I just can't fathom not using a single pick on the position in the past two years in particular. McKivitz has only been okay, and who knows how much longer Trent can play, even freak that he is.
That's why Lynch is a bad GM when it comes to drafting positions of critical need. Just cause he lucked out on Purdy and Kittle does not give him a pass to play anything he wants.

After the Bucs romp KC with Tyreek
in the SB, they let him walk to build that OL up and won the SB back to back while their receivers were dropping passes like hot cakes. So did Lynch learn anything from that? Yes, I'm going to reach for a receiver cause i am the best GM on find diamonds in the rough like Purdy.


A few thoughts. First, yes, KC let Hill walk and then won the SB without him. But this past year they did it more due to the defense than the offense, which was mediocre for most of the season and through the playoffs, while the defense was lock-down. And no one is arguing Purdy is Mahomes and can make things happen with replacement-level receiving talent.

Second, I did not love the Pearsall pick, but he wasn't some absurd reach. Most major sites ranked him somewhere between 35 and 45. There were a ton of late-first, early-second WR prospects who were ranked between 25-50, and six WRs were taken between picks 28 and 37. Any one person's ranking of those guys is going to be based on personal preference more than anything definitive, and undoubtedly some will bust and others will be great.

I have not been a big fan of the FO's early drafting overall, but they have a demonstrated track record of being incredible at finding late-round gems. It's a huge part of the reason why these guys still have jobs.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#664 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Sep 6, 2024 5:53 pm

RIPskaterdude wrote:Well, goodbye Ward

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It was always pretty unlikely Ward was coming back. Just got to hope we get a high comp pick in return. The bigger question is Lenoir. I would have loved to have snuck him into a reasonable deal this year, but he's saying he's going to play out the year and try to cash in. He might price himself out, too.

Next year could be pretty rough. We could lose both starting CBs, possibly our third CB in Yiadom, Greenlaw, and Hufanga. Not to mention several important offensive players.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#665 » by wco81 » Fri Sep 6, 2024 6:11 pm

They already cast their lot when they paid Bosa big money and signed Hargrave in free agency.

The Chiefs gave Jones big money but let Sneed walk in the offseason because they're going to rely on a 4th round pick to start opposite McDuffie.

Spagnolo likes to play press coverage, though their roster strategy is that Chris Jones will win his matchups and pressure QBs so that they don't have to rely on high-salary CBs.

It will be interesting to see if they extend McDuffie, who's entering his 3rd season.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#666 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Sep 6, 2024 6:43 pm

wco81 wrote:They already cast their lot when they paid Bosa big money and signed Hargrave in free agency.

The Chiefs gave Jones big money but let Sneed walk in the offseason because they're going to rely on a 4th round pick to start opposite McDuffie.

Spagnolo likes to play press coverage, though their roster strategy is that Chris Jones will win his matchups and pressure QBs so that they don't have to rely on high-salary CBs.

It will be interesting to see if they extend McDuffie, who's entering his 3rd season.


I really felt like Jackson was bailing out of the pocket too soon last night. Didn't seem comfortable at all, though obviously he did plenty of damage with his legs. But he certainly wasn't putting pressure on their CBs to cover for more than two seconds.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#667 » by Jikkle » Fri Sep 6, 2024 7:31 pm

thesack12 wrote:I'm quite surprised that Kyle named Allen as QB2 over Dobbs.

I'm not a big pro Dobbs guy, but he had a good preseason while Allen was pretty pedestrian. But I don't see the practices, maybe Allen has consistently shined in those.


Listening to Krueg talk about it and he said Allen was consistently better than Dobbs in practice and he wasn't surprised at Allen being named #2.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#668 » by Jikkle » Fri Sep 6, 2024 7:43 pm

WentzerWuver wrote:
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I get what you’re saying, but I also remember how special and self-sustaining Bosa was conceded to be before his poor start to last season. I’m sort of wait and see on this, I don’t think we should take his being in game shape until we see it.


And Bosa played from the start and was good. He just wasn't peak Bosa. We don't need Trent to be full Trent for him to be a huge upgrade over Moore.
If Jaylon is as bad as you think he is, why didn't Lynch draft an OT in day 1 or 2 instead of reaching for a receiver? We need to find if Lynch is right or wrong on how capable Moore is now to block for Purdy and not later when it matters.


I have no proof obviously but there is no way Lynch does or doesn't draft someone especially on offense without Shanahan's blessing.

The offensive line coach Forester was asked about at some point during the offseason and pretty much said they believe in picking skill guys over offensive line. I'd imagine if guys on their board are closely ranked the offensive line gets the lowest priority in getting selected.

To be fair we did almost win a Super Bowl even with this offensive line but we also (IMO) lost the Super Bowl because of the offensive line. So their philosophy might not be exactly wrong but I still say they should invest at least a little more resources into the offensive line.
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Re: 2024 Off-Season 

Post#669 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Sep 6, 2024 8:12 pm

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And Bosa played from the start and was good. He just wasn't peak Bosa. We don't need Trent to be full Trent for him to be a huge upgrade over Moore.
If Jaylon is as bad as you think he is, why didn't Lynch draft an OT in day 1 or 2 instead of reaching for a receiver? We need to find if Lynch is right or wrong on how capable Moore is now to block for Purdy and not later when it matters.


I have no proof obviously but there is no way Lynch does or doesn't draft someone especially on offense without Shanahan's blessing.

The offensive line coach Forester was asked about at some point during the offseason and pretty much said they believe in picking skill guys over offensive line. I'd imagine if guys on their board are closely ranked the offensive line gets the lowest priority in getting selected.

To be fair we did almost win a Super Bowl even with this offensive line but we also (IMO) lost the Super Bowl because of the offensive line. So their philosophy might not be exactly wrong but I still say they should invest at least a little more resources into the offensive line.


And that's a valid point from Foerster in the first round. The top OTs had gone. Everyone else would have been something of a reach. But that doesn't mean you just ignore the position entirely for three years when your starters are an elite player in his mid-30s and a below average player.

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