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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2201 » by Big J » Wed Jan 8, 2025 11:33 pm

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Actually, your post here shows that you don't get it.

It is possible for Mahomes to be a great QB, while also concurrently benefitting from the help around him and other situational factors. These are not mutually exclusive.


He didn't benefit from anyone on the offensive side of the ball this year. He was playing with backups damn near the entire season.




You're delusional.

KC had the 3rd most YAC in the NFL, and has at worst a top 10 Offensive line.


His starting running back and top 2 receivers were out for most of the year, and he took the most sacks he’s had to take in any season. They were getting guys in off the street like JuJu & Hunt and he made them look competent.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2202 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 11:38 pm

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He didn't benefit from anyone on the offensive side of the ball this year. He was playing with backups damn near the entire season.




You're delusional.

KC had the 3rd most YAC in the NFL, and has at worst a top 10 Offensive line.


His starting running back and top 2 receivers were out for most of the year, and he took the most sacks he’s had to take in any season. They were getting guys in off the street like JuJu & Hunt and he made them look competent.


KC had the 3rd most YAC in the NFL and has an OL that ranks at worst top 10 (some have them top 5).

Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, Mahomes gets plenty of help.

Besides, I'm done with talking about Mahomes with you. This is "The Brock Purdy thread."
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2203 » by thesack12 » Thu Jan 9, 2025 11:42 am

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Post#2204 » by Big J » Thu Jan 9, 2025 2:52 pm

SB window will essentially slam shut if they give him a top dollar deal.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2206 » by Harry Palmer » Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:25 pm

Can we get a separate thread for Big J to repeat the same schtick over and over to himself and keep this one for actual discussion? Or give this one to him and start another for actual Purdy discussion beyond his cliches?


I have made it a point of principle to never put anyone on ignore, but my soon-to-be-5 year old twins could predict every post of his on the subject if they read just a page or two from this thread, and it’s sorely tempting me to make an exception.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2207 » by Big J » Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:49 pm

Harry Palmer wrote:Can we get a separate thread for Big J to repeat the same schtick over and over to himself and keep this one for actual discussion? Or give this one to him and start another for actual Purdy discussion beyond his cliches?


I have made it a point of principle to never put anyone on ignore, but my soon-to-be-5 year old twins could predict every post of his on the subject if they read just a page or two from this thread, and it’s sorely tempting me to make an exception.


What exactly is there to discuss about Purdy beyond whatever you are calling “schtick” that I’ve posted? How about we get an actual moderator in this forum so that we don’t have people openly name calling and insulting. I always thought that was against forum rules.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2208 » by Harry Palmer » Fri Jan 10, 2025 5:52 pm

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Harry Palmer wrote:Can we get a separate thread for Big J to repeat the same schtick over and over to himself and keep this one for actual discussion? Or give this one to him and start another for actual Purdy discussion beyond his cliches?


I have made it a point of principle to never put anyone on ignore, but my soon-to-be-5 year old twins could predict every post of his on the subject if they read just a page or two from this thread, and it’s sorely tempting me to make an exception.


What exactly is there to discuss about Purdy beyond whatever you are calling “schtick” that I’ve posted? How about we get an actual moderator in this forum so that we don’t have people openly name calling and insulting. I always thought that was against forum rules.


What name did I call you? I talked about your posts, not you personally.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2209 » by Big J » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:54 pm

Harry Palmer wrote:
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Harry Palmer wrote:Can we get a separate thread for Big J to repeat the same schtick over and over to himself and keep this one for actual discussion? Or give this one to him and start another for actual Purdy discussion beyond his cliches?


I have made it a point of principle to never put anyone on ignore, but my soon-to-be-5 year old twins could predict every post of his on the subject if they read just a page or two from this thread, and it’s sorely tempting me to make an exception.


What exactly is there to discuss about Purdy beyond whatever you are calling “schtick” that I’ve posted? How about we get an actual moderator in this forum so that we don’t have people openly name calling and insulting. I always thought that was against forum rules.


What name did I call you? I talked about your posts, not you personally.


I'm talking about Patterson, he's called me names in dozens of posts. I've reported a number of them, but I've never gotten a response back.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2210 » by Pattersonca65 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:04 pm

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What exactly is there to discuss about Purdy beyond whatever you are calling “schtick” that I’ve posted? How about we get an actual moderator in this forum so that we don’t have people openly name calling and insulting. I always thought that was against forum rules.


What name did I call you? I talked about your posts, not you personally.


I'm talking about Patterson, he's called me names in dozens of posts. I've reported a number of them, but I've never gotten a response back.


Harry is right. You deserve your own thread where you can repeat the same thing over a million times. As if other posters complaining has given you an hints.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2211 » by Samurai » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:17 pm

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What name did I call you? I talked about your posts, not you personally.


I'm talking about Patterson, he's called me names in dozens of posts. I've reported a number of them, but I've never gotten a response back.


Harry is right. You deserve your own thread where you can repeat the same thing over a million times. As if other posters complaining has given you an hints.

One hundred percent agree that Big J should have his own thread!!
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2212 » by wco81 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:14 am

Justin Herbert has all the measurable and physical traits you'd want in a NFL QB.

He's thrown for more yards in his first 5 years than any QB in NFL history.

He signed a 5-year $262.5 million extension in the offseason.

But he's winless in the playoffs and he's not going to win today, throwing 2 ints. in the second half, including a pick-6 which turned a 1-score into a 2-score game and another int. in the fourth quarter which has set up the Texans inside the red zone.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2213 » by CrimsonCrew » Sun Jan 12, 2025 1:47 am

Yeah, Herbert makes the top five of a lot of lists. I just don't get it The talent is there, but at some point, the guy has to perform in a big game. Some guys have IT, others don't. All signs point to Herbert being in the latter camp.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2214 » by Samurai » Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:29 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Yeah, Herbert makes the top five of a lot of lists. I just don't get it The talent is there, but at some point, the guy has to perform in a big game. Some guys have IT, others don't. All signs point to Herbert being in the latter camp.

I would have Herbert outside my top 5 (off the top of my head, I'd rather have Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Burrow, Goff, possibly a few others). But while I'm glad it's not my money, $52.5M APY seems to be a reasonable market rate for a top 10 QB.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2215 » by Pattersonca65 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:09 pm

I missed a large chunk of that game. I saw the one Hebert pick late. What i saw down the stretch was how bad LA's defense was. The just let the Texans run all over them.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2216 » by Big J » Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:56 am

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CrimsonCrew wrote:Yeah, Herbert makes the top five of a lot of lists. I just don't get it The talent is there, but at some point, the guy has to perform in a big game. Some guys have IT, others don't. All signs point to Herbert being in the latter camp.

I would have Herbert outside my top 5 (off the top of my head, I'd rather have Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Burrow, Goff, possibly a few others). But while I'm glad it's not my money, $52.5M APY seems to be a reasonable market rate for a top 10 QB.


No way should Goff be in a top 5 list. He makes dumb plays at the worst times in games. There’s a reason that McVay dumped him for Stafford.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2217 » by Jikkle » Mon Jan 13, 2025 6:08 am

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CrimsonCrew wrote:Yeah, Herbert makes the top five of a lot of lists. I just don't get it The talent is there, but at some point, the guy has to perform in a big game. Some guys have IT, others don't. All signs point to Herbert being in the latter camp.

I would have Herbert outside my top 5 (off the top of my head, I'd rather have Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, Burrow, Goff, possibly a few others). But while I'm glad it's not my money, $52.5M APY seems to be a reasonable market rate for a top 10 QB.


No way should Goff be in a top 5 list. He makes dumb plays at the worst times in games. There’s a reason that McVay dumped him for Stafford.


I actually agree.

Goff is actually great when he's got a clean pocket but has a huge dip in effectiveness when pressured. Yes that's true for all QBs but Goff can get really bad.

Goff is the same QB he was with the Rams he's just playing behind one of the best if not the best offensive lines in the league which is boosting his production.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2218 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:26 am

Brock is just sitting back ready to count all the zeroes on his new contract.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2219 » by Jikkle » Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:47 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Brock is just sitting back ready to count all the zeroes on his new contract.


I don't know if this playoff weekend helped any contract talks but it's helped his image because a lot of guys that people would take over him have stunk this weekend.

I'm sticking with my prediction that he'll get a 4 year, 55 million average per season deal that when you peel back the layers it will be structured in a team-friendly way.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2220 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 3:03 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Brock is just sitting back ready to count all the zeroes on his new contract.

All aeason long we had to hear about Darnold. Now we see what happens when he faces some pressure

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