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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#301 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Oct 3, 2023 10:31 pm

Harry Palmer wrote:Big J, it sounds like nothing Purdy does can change your mind. But just for the record, several ex-NFL QBs, from JTO to Chase to Kurt Warner to Steve Young and on and on, not to mention overall analysts like Baldy have videos out of their analysis of Purdy going over game tape, and they all think he’s special. In terms of talent. And they all love his aggression. I’d suggest watching those videos, it might open your eyes unless you think you know more.

Waste of time. He is stuck on his lame narrative. The 49ers will have to make it to the super bowl or He will use that ridiculous bar to to prove his point
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#302 » by Big J » Tue Oct 3, 2023 11:26 pm

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Harry Palmer wrote:Big J, it sounds like nothing Purdy does can change your mind. But just for the record, several ex-NFL QBs, from JTO to Chase to Kurt Warner to Steve Young and on and on, not to mention overall analysts like Baldy have videos out of their analysis of Purdy going over game tape, and they all think he’s special. In terms of talent. And they all love his aggression. I’d suggest watching those videos, it might open your eyes unless you think you know more.

Waste of time. He is stuck on his lame narrative. The 49ers will have to make it to the super bowl or He will use that ridiculous bar to to prove his point


The whole reason we moved on from Jimmy was because he couldn't finish the job. If you don't have SB expectations as a fan of this team I don't know what to tell you.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#303 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Oct 4, 2023 12:14 am

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Pattersonca65 wrote:
Harry Palmer wrote:Big J, it sounds like nothing Purdy does can change your mind. But just for the record, several ex-NFL QBs, from JTO to Chase to Kurt Warner to Steve Young and on and on, not to mention overall analysts like Baldy have videos out of their analysis of Purdy going over game tape, and they all think he’s special. In terms of talent. And they all love his aggression. I’d suggest watching those videos, it might open your eyes unless you think you know more.

Waste of time. He is stuck on his lame narrative. The 49ers will have to make it to the super bowl or He will use that ridiculous bar to to prove his point


The whole reason we moved on from Jimmy was because he couldn't finish the job. If you don't have SB expectations as a fan of this team I don't know what to tell you.


Everyone should have SB aspirations for this team. But Purdy can still be an excellent QB if he doesn't win the SB. Drew Brees, basically the hope for Purdy, won a single SB in 20 seasons. It's hard to do.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#304 » by Big J » Wed Oct 4, 2023 1:00 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:
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Pattersonca65 wrote:Waste of time. He is stuck on his lame narrative. The 49ers will have to make it to the super bowl or He will use that ridiculous bar to to prove his point


The whole reason we moved on from Jimmy was because he couldn't finish the job. If you don't have SB expectations as a fan of this team I don't know what to tell you.


Everyone should have SB aspirations for this team. But Purdy can still be an excellent QB if he doesn't win the SB. Drew Brees, basically the hope for Purdy, won a single SB in 20 seasons. It's hard to do.


Jimmy G almost won one without having McCaffrey on the squad.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#305 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Oct 4, 2023 3:50 am

Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
Harry Palmer wrote:Big J, it sounds like nothing Purdy does can change your mind. But just for the record, several ex-NFL QBs, from JTO to Chase to Kurt Warner to Steve Young and on and on, not to mention overall analysts like Baldy have videos out of their analysis of Purdy going over game tape, and they all think he’s special. In terms of talent. And they all love his aggression. I’d suggest watching those videos, it might open your eyes unless you think you know more.

Waste of time. He is stuck on his lame narrative. The 49ers will have to make it to the super bowl or He will use that ridiculous bar to to prove his point


The whole reason we moved on from Jimmy was because he couldn't finish the job. If you don't have SB expectations as a fan of this team I don't know what to tell you.
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Harry Palmer wrote:Big J, it sounds like nothing Purdy does can change your mind. But just for the record, several ex-NFL QBs, from JTO to Chase to Kurt Warner to Steve Young and on and on, not to mention overall analysts like Baldy have videos out of their analysis of Purdy going over game tape, and they all think he’s special. In terms of talent. And they all love his aggression. I’d suggest watching those videos, it might open your eyes unless you think you know more.

Waste of time. He is stuck on his lame narrative. The 49ers will have to make it to the super bowl or He will use that ridiculous bar to to prove his point


The whole reason we moved on from Jimmy was because he couldn't finish the job. If you don't have SB expectations as a fan of this team I don't know what to tell you.


That is not the whole reason. Everyone has super bowl aspirations. It takes a whole team, something you don't get
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#306 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Oct 4, 2023 3:51 am

Big J wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
The whole reason we moved on from Jimmy was because he couldn't finish the job. If you don't have SB expectations as a fan of this team I don't know what to tell you.


Everyone should have SB aspirations for this team. But Purdy can still be an excellent QB if he doesn't win the SB. Drew Brees, basically the hope for Purdy, won a single SB in 20 seasons. It's hard to do.


Jimmy G almost won one without having McCaffrey on the squad.


So what . Jimmy didn't even play to Brocks level
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#307 » by Big J » Wed Oct 4, 2023 2:50 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:
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Pattersonca65 wrote:Waste of time. He is stuck on his lame narrative. The 49ers will have to make it to the super bowl or He will use that ridiculous bar to to prove his point


The whole reason we moved on from Jimmy was because he couldn't finish the job. If you don't have SB expectations as a fan of this team I don't know what to tell you.
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Pattersonca65 wrote:Waste of time. He is stuck on his lame narrative. The 49ers will have to make it to the super bowl or He will use that ridiculous bar to to prove his point


The whole reason we moved on from Jimmy was because he couldn't finish the job. If you don't have SB expectations as a fan of this team I don't know what to tell you.


That is not the whole reason. Everyone has super bowl aspirations. It takes a whole team, something you don't get


Correct, it does take a whole team, but the niners have the best overall roster in the league outside of QB. And a top 5 coaching staff.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#308 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Oct 4, 2023 3:04 pm

Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
Big J wrote:
The whole reason we moved on from Jimmy was because he couldn't finish the job. If you don't have SB expectations as a fan of this team I don't know what to tell you.
Big J wrote:
The whole reason we moved on from Jimmy was because he couldn't finish the job. If you don't have SB expectations as a fan of this team I don't know what to tell you.


That is not the whole reason. Everyone has super bowl aspirations. It takes a whole team, something you don't get


Correct, it does take a whole team, but the niners have the best overall roster in the league outside of QB. And a top 5 coaching staff.


You think the QB is the weak.linj on this team? You have got it wrong
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#309 » by Big J » Wed Oct 4, 2023 3:11 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:
Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
That is not the whole reason. Everyone has super bowl aspirations. It takes a whole team, something you don't get


Correct, it does take a whole team, but the niners have the best overall roster in the league outside of QB. And a top 5 coaching staff.


You think the QB is the weak.linj on this team? You have got it wrong


Okay, then if he’s an upgrade from Jimmy, who got us to the sSB, and we now have CMC, we should be winning a ring if Purdy is better.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#310 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Oct 4, 2023 3:59 pm

Big J wrote:
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Big J wrote:
Correct, it does take a whole team, but the niners have the best overall roster in the league outside of QB. And a top 5 coaching staff.


You think the QB is the weak.linj on this team? You have got it wrong


Okay, then if he’s an upgrade from Jimmy, who got us to the sSB, and we now have CMC, we should be winning a ring if Purdy is better.


There is a tremendous amount of luck that goes into winning a SB. Matchups make a huge difference in the playoffs. The year Jimmy "got us to the SB" we breezed to the game on the back of our D and run game. He barely did a thing in the first two playoff games.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#311 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Oct 4, 2023 4:28 pm

I should add that injuries (to you and your opponents) is also a huge part of who wins every year.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#312 » by Big J » Wed Oct 4, 2023 4:38 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:

You think the QB is the weak.linj on this team? You have got it wrong


Okay, then if he’s an upgrade from Jimmy, who got us to the sSB, and we now have CMC, we should be winning a ring if Purdy is better.


There is a tremendous amount of luck that goes into winning a SB. Matchups make a huge difference in the playoffs. The year Jimmy "got us to the SB" we breezed to the game on the back of our D and run game. He barely did a thing in the first two playoff games.


D looks even better this year and run game has been upgraded. Brock shouldn’t have to do much to get there either.

It isn’t “luck” that has gotten Mahomes 2 rings and another SB appearance.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#313 » by arich35 » Wed Oct 4, 2023 5:53 pm

Big J wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
Okay, then if he’s an upgrade from Jimmy, who got us to the sSB, and we now have CMC, we should be winning a ring if Purdy is better.


There is a tremendous amount of luck that goes into winning a SB. Matchups make a huge difference in the playoffs. The year Jimmy "got us to the SB" we breezed to the game on the back of our D and run game. He barely did a thing in the first two playoff games.


D looks even better this year and run game has been upgraded. Brock shouldn’t have to do much to get there either.

It isn’t “luck” that has gotten Mahomes 2 rings and another SB appearance.


I wouldn't say the D looks better
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#314 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Oct 4, 2023 6:02 pm

Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
Big J wrote:
Correct, it does take a whole team, but the niners have the best overall roster in the league outside of QB. And a top 5 coaching staff.


You think the QB is the weak.linj on this team? You have got it wrong


Okay, then if he’s an upgrade from Jimmy, who got us to the sSB, and we now have CMC, we should be winning a ring if Purdy is better.


His play demonstrates he has been better. There are other factors that go into winning super bowls. You don't get that
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Post#315 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Oct 4, 2023 6:04 pm

Big J wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
Okay, then if he’s an upgrade from Jimmy, who got us to the sSB, and we now have CMC, we should be winning a ring if Purdy is better.


There is a tremendous amount of luck that goes into winning a SB. Matchups make a huge difference in the playoffs. The year Jimmy "got us to the SB" we breezed to the game on the back of our D and run game. He barely did a thing in the first two playoff games.


D looks even better this year and run game has been upgraded. Brock shouldn’t have to do much to get there either.

It isn’t “luck” that has gotten Mahomes 2 rings and another SB appearance.


The D does not look better.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#316 » by Big J » Wed Oct 4, 2023 7:15 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:
Big J wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
There is a tremendous amount of luck that goes into winning a SB. Matchups make a huge difference in the playoffs. The year Jimmy "got us to the SB" we breezed to the game on the back of our D and run game. He barely did a thing in the first two playoff games.


D looks even better this year and run game has been upgraded. Brock shouldn’t have to do much to get there either.

It isn’t “luck” that has gotten Mahomes 2 rings and another SB appearance.


The D does not look better.


You guys are already making excuses for him and the team hasn't even lost. Doesn't show much confidence.
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Post#317 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Oct 4, 2023 8:06 pm

Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
Big J wrote:
D looks even better this year and run game has been upgraded. Brock shouldn’t have to do much to get there either.

It isn’t “luck” that has gotten Mahomes 2 rings and another SB appearance.


The D does not look better.


You guys are already making excuses for him and the team hasn't even lost. Doesn't show much confidence.


No. He is playing beyond anyone's expectations. You just are wrong about everything and keep repeating the same bull narratives
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Post#318 » by Big J » Wed Oct 4, 2023 8:49 pm

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Big J wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
The D does not look better.


You guys are already making excuses for him and the team hasn't even lost. Doesn't show much confidence.


No. He is playing beyond anyone's expectations. You just are wrong about everything and keep repeating the same bull narratives


I've always said that he could win regular season games in Kyle's system with the best weapons in the league and a top 5 D, so actually I'm being proven right right now.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#319 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Oct 5, 2023 12:07 am

Big J wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
Okay, then if he’s an upgrade from Jimmy, who got us to the sSB, and we now have CMC, we should be winning a ring if Purdy is better.


There is a tremendous amount of luck that goes into winning a SB. Matchups make a huge difference in the playoffs. The year Jimmy "got us to the SB" we breezed to the game on the back of our D and run game. He barely did a thing in the first two playoff games.


D looks even better this year and run game has been upgraded. Brock shouldn’t have to do much to get there either.

It isn’t “luck” that has gotten Mahomes 2 rings and another SB appearance.


It is not only luck that Mahomes has two rings, of course, but luck/circumstances out of Mahomes' hands play an awfully big part. What if Jimmy had hit Emmanuel Sanders in our SB? What if Chris Jones hadn't batted down like three passes in the fourth quarter? What if they called the blatant hold against Bosa on that huge 3rd and 20-whatever conversion? Change any one of those things and Mahomes easily loses that SB.

This past year, Mahomes beat the Bengals by three on a last-second FG. I didn't watch that game, but I'd imagine there were any number of plays that Patrick Mahomes had no impact on that could have swung the outcome.

There are lots of great players in the NFL, and it almost always takes things breaking just right for any one team to go the distance. Saying a guy is effectively a failure unless he wins the Super Bowl - ever, much less in a particular season - is an absurd expectation.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#320 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Oct 5, 2023 12:14 am

Big J wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
Okay, then if he’s an upgrade from Jimmy, who got us to the sSB, and we now have CMC, we should be winning a ring if Purdy is better.


There is a tremendous amount of luck that goes into winning a SB. Matchups make a huge difference in the playoffs. The year Jimmy "got us to the SB" we breezed to the game on the back of our D and run game. He barely did a thing in the first two playoff games.


D looks even better this year and run game has been upgraded. Brock shouldn’t have to do much to get there either.

It isn’t “luck” that has gotten Mahomes 2 rings and another SB appearance.


Oh, and I'm not at all confident that our defense and running game in January will look better than they did in January of 2019. We held Minnesota to ten points and 146 yards in the playoffs (six sacks, a pick, and four fumbles) while running for 186 yards. In the next week, we ran for 285 yards and four TDs against Green Bay, and held them to seven points into the fourth quarter, at which point we were winning by 27. We won the NFC Championship despite our QB throwing for 77 yards on eight attempts.

Call me crazy, but I don't think we'll do that this year. But what I'm hearing is that if the run game and D don't replicate that performance in the playoffs, we won't hear anything about Purdy not winning the SB after the fact.

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