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Post#541 » by ChrisPozz » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:17 pm

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:Josh Rosen - QB - Bruins

NFL Media's Daniel Jeremiah believes UCLA junior QB Josh Rosen outperformed USC's Sam Darnold in the schools' game on Saturday.

"He showed deep-ball touch, drive velocity and toughness inside the pocket... Rosen put on somewhat of a QB clinic on Saturday," Jeremiah wrote. Both passers converted a number of important and impressive plays. Specifically, Rosen made a handful of throws while being hit or when facing significant pressure, a skill that is vital in order to sustain success in the NFL.
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NFL Media Daniel Jeremiah believes UCLA junior QB Josh Rosen outperformed USC's Sam Darnold on Saturday.

Yeah, and.........

The sun is bright. They're lucky they included the very last sentence in their write up otherwise the whole thing would've been a waste of everyone's time or the people who rely on their write-ups for game recaps.
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Post#542 » by NinerSickness » Tue Nov 21, 2017 7:29 pm

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2018-nfl-draft-qb-stock-watch-lamar-jackson-passes-mason-rudolph-for-top-spot/

My ranking would be a little different than that. As of today 11/21 I would rank them this way:
1.) Lamar Jackson
2.) Josh Rosen
3.) Sam Darnold
4.) Mason Rudolph
5.) Baker Mayfield
6.) Jarret Stidham
7a.) Josh Allen / Riley Ferguson
7b.) Riley Ferguson / Josh Allen
8.) Ryan Finley
9.) Luke Falk
10.) Nick Fitzgerald

Drew Lock should return to school and continue to develop in order to build his stock for next year. Don't be surprise if he ends up being a top 10 pick in 2019.


You really think Lamar Jackson is going to play QB in the NFL?
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Post#543 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:31 pm

NinerSickness wrote:
Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2018-nfl-draft-qb-stock-watch-lamar-jackson-passes-mason-rudolph-for-top-spot/

My ranking would be a little different than that. As of today 11/21 I would rank them this way:
1.) Lamar Jackson
2.) Josh Rosen
3.) Sam Darnold
4.) Mason Rudolph
5.) Baker Mayfield
6.) Jarret Stidham
7a.) Josh Allen / Riley Ferguson
7b.) Riley Ferguson / Josh Allen
8.) Ryan Finley
9.) Luke Falk
10.) Nick Fitzgerald

Drew Lock should return to school and continue to develop in order to build his stock for next year. Don't be surprise if he ends up being a top 10 pick in 2019.


You really think Lamar Jackson is going to play QB in the NFL?


Absolutely.
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Post#544 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:44 pm

Chip Kelly - C - Ducks

Multiple outlets are reporting that Chip Kelly is leaning toward accepting the open head-coaching position at UCLA.

There have been an avalanche of various reports regarding Kelly and his future job plans in the last 12 hours. ESPN's Mark Schlabach reported early on Wednesday morning that Kelly had met with UCLA officials on Tuesday and would be deciding between Florida and the Bruins in the coming days. He reportedly met with Florida officials on Sunday. While two outlets reported earlier on Wednesday that Kelly-to-UCLA was a done deal, one of those reports (by 247Sports) has subsequently been pulled and there has been no official word from the Bruins as to a hiring. CBS Sports' Dennis Dodd is reporting that a decision one way or another is likely by Sunday. At this juncture, Kelly is not expected to take a job outside of either UCLA or Florida, though USA Today hears that Arizona State might be enticing if the Sun Devils opt to move on from Todd Graham.
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Post#545 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:46 pm

Sam Darnold - QB - Trojans

Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline was told by one evaluator that USC redshirt sophomore QB Sam Darnold possesses physical skills that are "Hall of Fame caliber."

Scouts from a multitude of NFL teams were on hand for this past Saturday's big showdown between USC's Darnold and UCLA's Josh Rosen. Writes Pauline of Darnold, "His arm strength, foot quickness and ability to pull a rabbit out of the hat when there is seemingly nothing available was incredibly impressive to scouts." Scouts were also keen on Darnold's ability to bounce back from mistakes. As for a few demerits, Pauline notes that the redshirt sophomore still has much work to do on the fronts of "technique, ball security and defensive reads." The consensus among the analyst's little scouting birds is that Darnold would be well-served by returning to USC next season.
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Post#546 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:52 pm

Josh Rosen - QB - Bruins

Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline compares some of the talk of alleged personality issues with UCLA junior QB Josh Rosen to what was said of former Michigan State QB Connor Cook.

Per Pauline, at least two NFL GM's have flat-out decided that Rosen will be a stay-away for draft purposes due to his demeanor. Writes the analyst, "Opinions are that Rosen is not the leader they need on the field for the next level -- the things he’s gotten away with on the college field won’t fly in the NFL." Pauline adds that "[t]he word egotistical was mentioned many times in referring to Rosen." We're almost surely going to continue to hear reports along these lines as the draft process picks up speed, but Rosen is also supremely talented -- one evaluator told Pauline that many of his throws are "off the charts" special -- and could well end up the No. 1 quarterback selected in the spring, even with questions of character and demeanor floating about.
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Post#547 » by wco81 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:03 pm

Egotistical? Does that mean he has his own mind?

As for Darnold, a lot of QBs in recent years who chose to go back to school ended up regretting it, either suffering injuries or having a worse season and seeing their draft stock drop.

Can the USC coaching staff improve him with another season? QBs who enjoyed the college lifestyle or was faithful to their college ended up worse in many ways, whether it was Bradford getting injured in his final year at OU or Locker dropping next year.

If Darnold goes back, you hope it's not for the same reasons that Leinhart stayed an additional year, because he liked the adulation and partying lifestyle at SC.
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Post#548 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:46 am

Nick Fitzgerald - QB - Bulldogs

Mississippi State redshirt junior QB Nick Fitzgerald (ankle) was carted off the field during Thursday's game against Ole Miss.

The injury occured on a run play with just over nine minutes in the first quarter. The play was so gruesome that ESPN decided not to show a replay, and players from both sides took knees. Keytaeon Thompson will take over for Fitzgerald. We'll update you on the severity when that information is presented.
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Post#549 » by ChrisPozz » Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:13 pm

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:Josh Rosen - QB - Bruins

Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline compares some of the talk of alleged personality issues with UCLA junior QB Josh Rosen to what was said of former Michigan State QB Connor Cook.

Per Pauline, at least two NFL GM's have flat-out decided that Rosen will be a stay-away for draft purposes due to his demeanor. Writes the analyst, "Opinions are that Rosen is not the leader they need on the field for the next level -- the things he’s gotten away with on the college field won’t fly in the NFL." Pauline adds that "[t]he word egotistical was mentioned many times in referring to Rosen." We're almost surely going to continue to hear reports along these lines as the draft process picks up speed, but Rosen is also supremely talented -- one evaluator told Pauline that many of his throws are "off the charts" special -- and could well end up the No. 1 quarterback selected in the spring, even with questions of character and demeanor floating about.
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I've gone on and on and on...and on...about Rosen's personality, maturity, and decision making and that it ranges anywhere from real concerning to downright scary, and while I agree there are parts to them or their qualities - Cook and Rosen - do kind of overlap on the surface, but it's still not my favorite comparison.

Rosen almost scares me more similarly to the weird thing Aaron Rodgers had coming into the league and was the biggest reason why I was so scared of him. No, I don't think I ever saw Rodgers say some of the dumb things Rosen has or maybe been the same level of immature that Rosen has demonstrated in the past, but the on the surface immaturity, mouthy, maybe arrogant, but the ability to take all that on a day-to-day basis and still have the majority, if not all, of your team behind you and speak to the way Rodgers' teammates spoke about him for the most part and the way Rosen's teammates speak about him for the most part is more similar than to the VERY, VERY WEIRD feeling and vibes I got when looking at Cook closely.

Hopefully that kind of makes some sense. Neither theirs nor mine are great comparisons, and in both instances I think there are stark differences, with Rosen's past/current immaturity probably scaring me a bit more than Rodgers' did, but I like that comparison better even with the big differences than Rosen to Cook.

I may change that as we get closer to personality evaluation time but that's the feeling I'm getting right now. And this will probably make little to no sense for people that weren't closely following the Aaron Rodgers that came into the NFL or the personality behind Rosen (and Cook then) now.

While you'll still find a ton of people who to this day still hate Rodgers' make up, the way he carries himself, the pettiness sometimes, the brashness, and the I'm-not-answering-to-that mentality he has now, the concerns I had and the concerns many had back then and what you get now from him now with all that are far improved and far less concerning for the most part and it's almost as impressive of a leap he took with the off-the-field stuff as the one that McCarthy made with him on-the-field and basically re-working his mechanics and all the physical stuff.

Since I'm so low on the current structuring of this team, including the Jimmy G. outlook and what I think the future will be with that, and what I think they'll do or the lack of what I think they'll be able to do, I'm still not completely against a Rosen addition if it falls correctly even though it terrifies me to death to take a QB knowing their MIGHT be a chance his wires aren't right and he doesn't have that "it" thing from the start, that presidential/CEO type of thing from the start. That's almost always been a MUST for me with going all-in on a QB, but given the rebuild I think this team might need again down the road if it goes how I am kind of suspecting, and the little I think of other upcoming available quarterbacks, AND where I think Rosen could be IF he hits his ceiling, and IF the personality stuff can be corralled and improved, very similar to a Rodgers, he very well could be somebody I'd lower my typical bar for and take the chance since I think another rebuild might already be in the cards anyway.

A very, very long way to go here, however. This stuff could change pretty dramatically and quickly.
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Post#550 » by ChrisPozz » Fri Nov 24, 2017 5:18 pm

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Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:Josh Rosen - QB - Bruins

Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline compares some of the talk of alleged personality issues with UCLA junior QB Josh Rosen to what was said of former Michigan State QB Connor Cook.

Per Pauline, at least two NFL GM's have flat-out decided that Rosen will be a stay-away for draft purposes due to his demeanor. Writes the analyst, "Opinions are that Rosen is not the leader they need on the field for the next level -- the things he’s gotten away with on the college field won’t fly in the NFL." Pauline adds that "[t]he word egotistical was mentioned many times in referring to Rosen." We're almost surely going to continue to hear reports along these lines as the draft process picks up speed, but Rosen is also supremely talented -- one evaluator told Pauline that many of his throws are "off the charts" special -- and could well end up the No. 1 quarterback selected in the spring, even with questions of character and demeanor floating about.
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Nov 22 - 7:49 PM


I've gone on and on and on...and on...about Rosen's personality, maturity, and decision making and that it ranges anywhere from real concerning to downright scary, and while I agree there are parts to them or their qualities - Cook and Rosen - do kind of overlap on the surface, but it's still not my favorite comparison.

Rosen almost scares me more similarly to the weird thing Aaron Rodgers had coming into the league and was the biggest reason why I was so scared of him. No, I don't think I ever saw Rodgers say some of the dumb things Rosen has or maybe been the same level of immature that Rosen has demonstrated in the past, but the on the surface immaturity, mouthy, maybe arrogant, but the ability to take all that on a day-to-day basis and still have the majority, if not all, of your team behind you and speak to the way Rodgers' teammates spoke about him for the most part and the way Rosen's teammates speak about him for the most part is more similar than to the VERY, VERY WEIRD feeling and vibes I got when looking at Cook closely.

Hopefully that kind of makes some sense. Neither theirs nor mine are great comparisons, and in both instances I think there are stark differences, with Rosen's past/current immaturity probably scaring me a bit more than Rodgers' did, but I like that comparison better even with the big differences than Rosen to Cook.

I may change that as we get closer to personality evaluation time but that's the feeling I'm getting right now. And this will probably make little to no sense for people that weren't closely following the Aaron Rodgers that came into the NFL or the personality behind Rosen (and Cook then) now.

While you'll still find a ton of people who to this day still hate Rodgers' make up, the way he carries himself, the pettiness sometimes, the brashness, and the I'm-not-answering-to-that mentality he has now, the concerns I had and the concerns many had back then and what you get now from him now with all that are far improved and far less concerning for the most part and it's almost as impressive of a leap he took with the off-the-field stuff as the one that McCarthy made with him on-the-field and basically re-working his mechanics and all the physical stuff.

Since I'm so low on the current structuring of this team, including the Jimmy G. outlook and what I think the future will be with that, and what I think they'll do or the lack of what I think they'll be able to do, I'm still not completely against a Rosen addition if it falls correctly even though it terrifies me to death to take a QB knowing their MIGHT be a chance his wires aren't right and he doesn't have that "it" thing from the start, that presidential/CEO type of thing from the start. That's almost always been a MUST for me with going all-in on a QB, but given the rebuild I think this team might need again down the road if it goes how I am kind of suspecting, and the little I think of other upcoming available quarterbacks, AND where I think Rosen could be IF he hits his ceiling, and IF the personality stuff can be corralled and improved, very similar to a Rodgers, he very well could be somebody I'd lower my typical bar for and take the chance since I think another rebuild might already be in the cards anyway.

A very, very long way to go here, however. This stuff could change pretty dramatically and quickly.


I always feel like I need to say one more thing to protect myself from the goofier comments I might get back. No, I was not saying that Rosen will or can hit the ceiling that Rodgers has or has demonstrated. Obviously that stuff is beyond special. I don't think even in his best case scenario he'll get to that mark. It has more to do with the personality/maturity questions at young ages and Rosen having a high upside if somebody can hit on his ceiling and somehow keep the maturity stuff at bay or work with him in a way where you hopefully aren't going to have to worry about him as a person.
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Post#551 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:10 pm

ChrisPozz wrote:
ChrisPozz wrote:
Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:Josh Rosen - QB - Bruins

Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline compares some of the talk of alleged personality issues with UCLA junior QB Josh Rosen to what was said of former Michigan State QB Connor Cook.

Per Pauline, at least two NFL GM's have flat-out decided that Rosen will be a stay-away for draft purposes due to his demeanor. Writes the analyst, "Opinions are that Rosen is not the leader they need on the field for the next level -- the things he’s gotten away with on the college field won’t fly in the NFL." Pauline adds that "[t]he word egotistical was mentioned many times in referring to Rosen." We're almost surely going to continue to hear reports along these lines as the draft process picks up speed, but Rosen is also supremely talented -- one evaluator told Pauline that many of his throws are "off the charts" special -- and could well end up the No. 1 quarterback selected in the spring, even with questions of character and demeanor floating about.
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Nov 22 - 7:49 PM


I've gone on and on and on...and on...about Rosen's personality, maturity, and decision making and that it ranges anywhere from real concerning to downright scary, and while I agree there are parts to them or their qualities - Cook and Rosen - do kind of overlap on the surface, but it's still not my favorite comparison.

Rosen almost scares me more similarly to the weird thing Aaron Rodgers had coming into the league and was the biggest reason why I was so scared of him. No, I don't think I ever saw Rodgers say some of the dumb things Rosen has or maybe been the same level of immature that Rosen has demonstrated in the past, but the on the surface immaturity, mouthy, maybe arrogant, but the ability to take all that on a day-to-day basis and still have the majority, if not all, of your team behind you and speak to the way Rodgers' teammates spoke about him for the most part and the way Rosen's teammates speak about him for the most part is more similar than to the VERY, VERY WEIRD feeling and vibes I got when looking at Cook closely.

Hopefully that kind of makes some sense. Neither theirs nor mine are great comparisons, and in both instances I think there are stark differences, with Rosen's past/current immaturity probably scaring me a bit more than Rodgers' did, but I like that comparison better even with the big differences than Rosen to Cook.

I may change that as we get closer to personality evaluation time but that's the feeling I'm getting right now. And this will probably make little to no sense for people that weren't closely following the Aaron Rodgers that came into the NFL or the personality behind Rosen (and Cook then) now.

While you'll still find a ton of people who to this day still hate Rodgers' make up, the way he carries himself, the pettiness sometimes, the brashness, and the I'm-not-answering-to-that mentality he has now, the concerns I had and the concerns many had back then and what you get now from him now with all that are far improved and far less concerning for the most part and it's almost as impressive of a leap he took with the off-the-field stuff as the one that McCarthy made with him on-the-field and basically re-working his mechanics and all the physical stuff.

Since I'm so low on the current structuring of this team, including the Jimmy G. outlook and what I think the future will be with that, and what I think they'll do or the lack of what I think they'll be able to do, I'm still not completely against a Rosen addition if it falls correctly even though it terrifies me to death to take a QB knowing their MIGHT be a chance his wires aren't right and he doesn't have that "it" thing from the start, that presidential/CEO type of thing from the start. That's almost always been a MUST for me with going all-in on a QB, but given the rebuild I think this team might need again down the road if it goes how I am kind of suspecting, and the little I think of other upcoming available quarterbacks, AND where I think Rosen could be IF he hits his ceiling, and IF the personality stuff can be corralled and improved, very similar to a Rodgers, he very well could be somebody I'd lower my typical bar for and take the chance since I think another rebuild might already be in the cards anyway.

A very, very long way to go here, however. This stuff could change pretty dramatically and quickly.


I always feel like I need to say one more thing to protect myself from the goofier comments I might get back. No, I was not saying that Rosen will or can hit the ceiling that Rodgers has or has demonstrated. Obviously that stuff is beyond special. I don't think even in his best case scenario he'll get to that mark. It has more to do with the personality/maturity questions at young ages and Rosen having a high upside if somebody can hit on his ceiling and somehow keep the maturity stuff at bay or work with him in a way where you hopefully aren't going to have to worry about him as a person.


To me the comparison that comes to mind with the “personality” stuff is Jeff George. It can get so toxic that it alienates him from a lot of teammates and essentially permanently damage the chemistry in the locker room. Type of player that would undermine the OC or maybe even the HC at times by changing plays in the huddle because he feels that the play selection was not “good enough” for the situation at hand.
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Post#552 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Fri Nov 24, 2017 8:20 pm

Good news for my Noles. I wouldn’t want our defense to have to face his offense on a yearly basis.

Chip Kelly - C - Ducks

Yahoo Sports' Pat Forde reports that Florida has taken themselves out of the running for Chip Kelly.

Florida and UCLA have both reportedly been hot-and-heavy on Kelly, but per Forde, the Gators did not come to an agreement with Kelly when they met with him in New Hampshire last Sunday. While they have kept in touch with him throughout the week, the program has now opted to look at other options. Forde passes along that UCF's Scott Frost is now their preferred candidate for head coach. With Florida out of the running, here, UCLA should now be considered the prohibitive failure to reel in Kelly. CBS Sports' Dennis Dodd reported earlier in the week that he is expected to make a decision by Sunday.
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Post#553 » by wco81 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:05 pm

Unless GMs think Rosen is another Leaf, how can you overlook talent?

Maybe they think Rosen will be like Capernick, taking political stances that Conservative NFL owners, front office and coaching personnel don't like.

Cam has been prickly the last two years. Would any GM not have picked him at the top of the draft knowing how he's turned out on the field?

You don't skip over or bail on talent. 49ers should know that from letting talented players like Alton and McDonLd go, leading to the current depleted state of the roster.

Unless he's got the personality of a Trump, on top of being lazy, it's hard to see Rosen sliding too much. Certainly nothing like Rodgers, who has proved he should have been the top pick of his draft class.

But 49ers may be looking at other positions than QB. And like all other NFL coaches and owners, Kyle may dislike Rosen's politics as much if not more than CK's politics.
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Post#554 » by Dloading99 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:09 am

Simple as this. Here's my take. Why would you not take a talent like Josh Rosen why not draft a franchise quarterback who is going to win your super bowls. if anybody would get that you would think it would be Kyle Shannahan who had Matt Ryan and was around John Elway. best Quarterback I've seen come out of L.A. from L.A. since Elway. Rosen is a pure pocket thrower with mobility. with a team who didn't draft Brady and drafted Givoanni Carmazzi over him or Alex Smith over Aaron Rodgers. this would make obvious sense.


California has great quarterbacks brady and Rodgers. you would think a guy like Lynch who's hung around Stanford knows pac 12 coaches like Mora. it would be simple draft Rosen and do what the Giants are doing embrace that tank. if you don't get Rosen you get Darnold. I don't care what anybody says all that crap about Character and What Rosen does off the field is bull. he's never done anything all he did was get some chicks phone number after a game.

Why Trade for Goropollo when you can draft one of the two franchise quarterbacks in Rosen and Darnold. and when were there two franchise quarterbacks in the draft like this? Goff and Wentz you saw what the Rams did they got their guy. Why would Bellicheck trade Goropollo if he thought he was a franchise quarterback you know Bellicheck isn't giving that up for nothing. Bellicheck keeps all his assets and if he sees another Brady he would do what he did with Drew Bledsoe. with Jimmy Goropollo all I see is another Kevin Kolb that guy was supposed to be the great quarterback and Arizona traded for him and he's not in the league.

in a division of Russell Wilson Jared Goff niners have Garopollo when they could have Josh Rosen who's the best Pac 12 Quarterback since Aaron Rodgers. teams didn't want to draft aaron Rodgers cause they said he was cocky he was a prick. he was snobby. how did that work out? a super bowl. pro bowler hall of famer. the niners same team that took Joshua Garnett over Micheael Thomas. just draft Rosen. Trade Garopollo for Assests. seems like Shannahan has such a big ego that he's just going to say he's going to make a pro bowler instead of drafting the Hall of famer.
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Post#555 » by Dloading99 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:21 am

I'm an L.A. guy I've known about Josh Rosen since he was a high school Quarterback at St. John Bosco in Bellfolower in Los Angeles. he's from Manhattan Beach. he's a great kid.

these fake scouts are full of junk talking about Character issues. the kid never did anything wrong off the field. no stuff with off the field. just a kid who has confidence who said college players should get paid and I agree. kid is smart. turned Stanford down had the grades for Stanford. but wanted to build something at UCLA the one L.A. kid who didn't go to USC. Teammates really liked playing with him. UCLA has two superstar Quarterbacks Troy Aikman and Josh Rosen is the other one. listen to what troy aikman says about this guy.

I've seen great quarterbacks on the niners. I started watching Steve Young my favorite player is Jerry Rice I know what a great Quarterback does for other players. look what Rosen did for Jordan Lindsley on UCLA he's gonna get this kid in the NFL. we've seen Elvis Grbac and Jeff Garcia and Jim Drunkenmiller

This guy needs to be a niner. I get so frustrated when I see these stupid scouts talk about character that makes no sense and is blantant lies this reminds of all the bull cforn around Dann Marino when he ceam came out of pitt and it was nothing looks lik e this is happening with Josh all over again. he should be a niner.
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Post#556 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:51 pm

He’s definitely a super star quarterback in regard to his skill set. Talent wise I give him the same grade I gave Jared Goff when he entered the draft. A beautiful pocket passer that’s able to make all the necessary throws required of a QB at the next level. He has the skill set / mental toughness to lead your team to numerous playoff appearances. However, his off the field issues cannot be dismissed entirely though, without doing your due diligence. You have to evaluate everything. I’m sure during all the research / investigatory-background stuff some things will check out to be unfounded. And some things will be found to be indicated. You just have to assess and weigh the risk vs the reward. I think when it’s all said and done with, he’ll be fine — a la Jameis Winston.
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Post#557 » by Ray_Dogg » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:38 pm

Dloading99 wrote:I'm an L.A. guy I've known about Josh Rosen since he was a high school Quarterback at St. John Bosco in Bellfolower in Los Angeles. he's from Manhattan Beach. he's a great kid.

these fake scouts are full of junk talking about Character issues. the kid never did anything wrong off the field. no stuff with off the field. just a kid who has confidence who said college players should get paid and I agree. kid is smart. turned Stanford down had the grades for Stanford. but wanted to build something at UCLA the one L.A. kid who didn't go to USC. Teammates really liked playing with him. UCLA has two superstar Quarterbacks Troy Aikman and Josh Rosen is the other one. listen to what troy aikman says about this guy.

I've seen great quarterbacks on the niners. I started watching Steve Young my favorite player is Jerry Rice I know what a great Quarterback does for other players. look what Rosen did for Jordan Lindsley on UCLA he's gonna get this kid in the NFL. we've seen Elvis Grbac and Jeff Garcia and Jim Drunkenmiller

This guy needs to be a niner. I get so frustrated when I see these stupid scouts talk about character that makes no sense and is blantant lies this reminds of all the bull cforn around Dann Marino when he ceam came out of pitt and it was nothing looks lik e this is happening with Josh all over again. he should be a niner.



I read Stanford never offered him. Rosen wanted to go there.
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Re: 2017-18 CFB SEASON / '18 NFL DRAFT 

Post#558 » by Ray_Dogg » Sat Nov 25, 2017 9:42 pm

I watched SMU vs Tulane today. Sutton is really nice. He made 4 highlight reel catches. Reminds me a lot of my boy Hopkins. Two thumbs up.
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Re: 2017-18 CFB SEASON / '18 NFL DRAFT 

Post#559 » by Dloading99 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:51 am

Here's the deal I'm gonna keep it 100 with yall on here.


Rosen was offered by Stanford he met with Stanford met with David Shaw but he told Stanford there is no way he is competing for the Starting Quarterback Job he has to be offered it.


That is some of the character stuff they are probably talking about. look the kid is cocky. but he went there saying hey if you want me to come here and I'm supposed to be the guy I want the starting job.

Matt Barkley got the same thing at USC these Quarterback recruits get that.

UCLA got Rosen cause Mora got him signed. Mora knew the kid they were neighbors in Manhattan Beach. Mora got that recruit that was all Mora. So UCLA said Yes you will be the Quarterback and it was probably UCLA's best most coveted recruit since Maurice Jones Drew.

Rosen has been a superstar Quarterback since he's played football. just the talent. I've seen em All I saw Leaf ball on UCLA I saw Peyton Manning. I saw Rodgers come in as a freshman and Beat USC in Berkley. some of these things you just see in Quarterbacks you could see it in Rodgers the poise the confidence.

I saw that in Rosen's first game. Pocket presence command of the pocket. accuracy is on point. Jameis Winston had off the field stuff. but that was never Rosen. Rosen was just always smarter then everybody and always challenges coaches and authority like college football. that's just his personality. he's going to ask a coach why do I have to throw a go route when I can get the post. he's Rodgers. Rodgers was just as cocky when he was at CAL.

But that's the L.A. manhattan Beach swag. Rosen has it and some scouts just don't get it. guys have that. where it's like look I know I'm good let's ball. a lot of these QBS watched how USC was going it and that's how they play. Rosen is like that.

out of all the guys I've seen Rosen has that it factor. he's the kind of guy where I would say tank just get this guy. cause he's that good.

Niners have Garopoloo but you draft Rosen and you have him with Goropollo he's that good.
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Re: 2017-18 CFB SEASON / '18 NFL DRAFT 

Post#560 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:29 am

Ray_Dogg wrote:I watched SMU vs Tulane today. Sutton is really nice. He made 4 highlight reel catches. Reminds me a lot of my boy Hopkins. Two thumbs up.


I’ve been high on that guy since last year. He’s my second rated receiver this year. So far as of today, here’s how I rank them:

1.) Christian Kirk
2.) Courtland Sutton
3.) Calvin Ridley
4.) Arden Tate
5.) D.J. Chark

I say throw the dice on Antonio Callaway. If he’s there when we pick in the 5th, I say go for it. He’d be a Tyreek Hill type pick in terms of value; major steal.

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