Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:Josh Rosen - QB - Bruins
Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline compares some of the talk of alleged personality issues with UCLA junior QB Josh Rosen to what was said of former Michigan State QB Connor Cook.
Per Pauline, at least two NFL GM's have flat-out decided that Rosen will be a stay-away for draft purposes due to his demeanor. Writes the analyst, "Opinions are that Rosen is not the leader they need on the field for the next level -- the things he’s gotten away with on the college field won’t fly in the NFL." Pauline adds that "[t]he word egotistical was mentioned many times in referring to Rosen." We're almost surely going to continue to hear reports along these lines as the draft process picks up speed, but Rosen is also supremely talented -- one evaluator told Pauline that many of his throws are "off the charts" special -- and could well end up the No. 1 quarterback selected in the spring, even with questions of character and demeanor floating about.
Source: Draft Analyst
Nov 22 - 7:49 PM
I've gone on and on and on...and on...about Rosen's personality, maturity, and decision making and that it ranges anywhere from real concerning to downright scary, and while I agree there are parts to them or their qualities - Cook and Rosen - do kind of overlap on the surface, but it's still not my favorite comparison.
Rosen almost scares me more similarly to the weird thing Aaron Rodgers had coming into the league and was the biggest reason why I was so scared of him. No, I don't think I ever saw Rodgers say some of the dumb things Rosen has or maybe been the same level of immature that Rosen has demonstrated in the past, but the on the surface immaturity, mouthy, maybe arrogant, but the ability to take all that on a day-to-day basis and still have the majority, if not all, of your team behind you and speak to the way Rodgers' teammates spoke about him for the most part and the way Rosen's teammates speak about him for the most part is more similar than to the VERY, VERY WEIRD feeling and vibes I got when looking at Cook closely.
Hopefully that kind of makes some sense. Neither theirs nor mine are great comparisons, and in both instances I think there are stark differences, with Rosen's past/current immaturity probably scaring me a bit more than Rodgers' did, but I like that comparison better even with the big differences than Rosen to Cook.
I may change that as we get closer to personality evaluation time but that's the feeling I'm getting right now. And this will probably make little to no sense for people that weren't closely following the Aaron Rodgers that came into the NFL or the personality behind Rosen (and Cook then) now.
While you'll still find a ton of people who to this day still hate Rodgers' make up, the way he carries himself, the pettiness sometimes, the brashness, and the I'm-not-answering-to-that mentality he has now, the concerns I had and the concerns many had back then and what you get now from him now with all that are far improved and far less concerning for the most part and it's almost as impressive of a leap he took with the off-the-field stuff as the one that McCarthy made with him on-the-field and basically re-working his mechanics and all the physical stuff.
Since I'm so low on the current structuring of this team, including the Jimmy G. outlook and what I think the future will be with that, and what I think they'll do or the lack of what I think they'll be able to do, I'm still not completely against a Rosen addition if it falls correctly even though it terrifies me to death to take a QB knowing their MIGHT be a chance his wires aren't right and he doesn't have that "it" thing from the start, that presidential/CEO type of thing from the start. That's almost always been a MUST for me with going all-in on a QB, but given the rebuild I think this team might need again down the road if it goes how I am kind of suspecting, and the little I think of other upcoming available quarterbacks, AND where I think Rosen could be IF he hits his ceiling, and IF the personality stuff can be corralled and improved, very similar to a Rodgers, he very well could be somebody I'd lower my typical bar for and take the chance since I think another rebuild might already be in the cards anyway.
A very, very long way to go here, however. This stuff could change pretty dramatically and quickly.