Game 10: Toronto Raptors (7-2) @ Los Angeles Clippers (6-3) - 10:30 PM

[hawkfire]

a game like tonight makes for a lot of concerns about the team.

Wait, did we lost? I was sure we won by 10 points with a poor shooting night. Imagine on a good shooting night.

[nickhx2]

i think when you barely beat a team missing three of its better players when they're on the end of a back to back, that's problematic. if they had a day of rest i don't think they fall flat in the 4th quarter they way they did. moreover, the raptors got a lot of open looks that ideally you'd prefer they don't get at all. so i think that speaks to how far off the team is on defense, atm.

[TheNewEra]

The Raptors were missing multiple key pieces and clearly exhausted in the 4th, so I wouldn't celebrate our defense too much. Now what they did on Kawhi was actually impressive, but it's a different story with PG out there and guys being able to knock down an open shot every now and then.

I've got a bad feeling about Sham, if he returns in under a month I'm celebrating. Jerome will get another (maybe last) real shot to prove that he belongs.

Game ball goes to McGruder for making his first basket as a Clipper!

McGruder might get a boost of playing time with Shamet out

[fbalmeida]

what a competitive game

all props to the defending champs

[although Kawhi is THE defending champ ]


I like these Raps more than my hometown Sixers

fearless

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ADD:



MVP candidate Paschal Siakam:

44 minutes
6-17 FG
1-6 3PT%

16 points

Doc outschemed them

DOC: We put 4 bigs on the floor. I think they scored 10 points in the 4th quarter. [They did.] We never put that lineup out before. This was another one of those defensive wins we've been talking about...


Yup. Toronto scored 10 points in the 4th. WTF??? 10 points? Doc [and his staff] at their peak right now, I think. Turned it all around on TOR, not just asking for a Lou/Kawhi 40-point quarter again.

Sweet win. And frankly, they missed Ibaka a little but I think they're a better team without Lowry.

Sincerely appreciate the respect and all. But no, we're not a better team without Lowry.

[UKClipperfan]

i wouldnt take too much from the game if i were u. raps without lowry, ibaka, og. clips without pg13

[OkcSinceSGA]

a game like tonight makes for a lot of concerns about the team.

Wait, did we lost? I was sure we won by 10 points with a poor shooting night. Imagine on a good shooting night.

When was the last time we had a good shooting night? Last night marks the 5th game in a row basically of horribly clunky offense. At a certain point it's not just a fluke bad game. The lineups Doc is using obviously doesn't help. PG is going to have a HUGE load to carry right out of the gate if we are going to continue shooting 25% from 3 every game. Since the first 3 games I believe we've gone from 1st ranked offense by a landslide down to 28th. The defense though has been elite at least, which is the one positive.

[Young Sterling]

It's like the opposite of Lob City. The offense looks kinda clunky sometimes, but the defense is on another level. This is the literal definition of the phrase "defense wins championships". However, when the open 3s start dropping... Get ready because people are going to start the Kawhi Clippers v. MJ Bulls dialogue comparisons like they did with the Warriors.

[Wammy Giveaway]

Clippers have turned into Grizzlies west: excluding today's game, they are 22nd in 3P-shooting percentage. During most of the Grit-N-Grind era, the Grizzlies couldn't even break into the average tier; their highest ranking from downtown was 20th in the 2013-14 season.

And if you thought that was wild, wait til you hear this: Clippers were 2nd (!) in 3-point percentage last year (0.388). Without an All-Star.

Jesus. That's terrible. Almost as bad as the lakers. But They'll get it together.

Not necessarily. They could be cold in first 3 quarters, but in 4th, clutch and in a Sudden Death Shot situation, they could be hot. So long as they make the shots necessary to prevent a blowout outcome or to win the game, they should be fine. We should be seeing more of these...

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But to become Kelly Clarkson, to become champions, to defeat the Lakers in a playoff series to break the curse, they'll need to be Grizzlies-esque.

[NippySudz]

Clippers have turned into Grizzlies west: excluding today's game, they are 22nd in 3P-shooting percentage. During most of the Grit-N-Grind era, the Grizzlies couldn't even break into the average tier; their highest ranking from downtown was 20th in the 2013-14 season.

And if you thought that was wild, wait til you hear this: Clippers were 2nd (!) in 3-point percentage last year (0.388). Without an All-Star.

Jesus. That's terrible. Almost as bad as the lakers. But They'll get it together.

Not necessarily. They could be cold in first 3 quarters, but in 4th, clutch and in a Sudden Death Shot situation, they could be hot. So long as they make the shots necessary to prevent a blowout outcome or to win the game, they should be fine. We should be seeing more of these...

Watch on YouTube

And these...

Watch on YouTube

And these...

Watch on YouTube

Oh yeah, don't forget this...

Watch on YouTube

But to become Kelly Clarkson, to become champions, to defeat the Lakers in a playoff series to break the curse, they'll need to be Grizzlies-esque.

That's not recipe for winning championships unless it's the golden State warriors. They need to stop relying on 4th quarter heroics

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[clipperlover]

a game like tonight makes for a lot of concerns about the team.

Wait, did we lost? I was sure we won by 10 points with a poor shooting night. Imagine on a good shooting night.

When was the last time we had a good shooting night? Last night marks the 5th game in a row basically of horribly clunky offense. At a certain point it's not just a fluke bad game. The lineups Doc is using obviously doesn't help. PG is going to have a HUGE load to carry right out of the gate if we are going to continue shooting 25% from 3 every game. Since the first 3 games I believe we've gone from 1st ranked offense by a landslide down to 28th. The defense though has been elite at least, which is the one positive.

After the first 5 games of the season, we have played 7 games. Five of those games had Kawhi on the court. We haven't given up more than 101 pts in any of those games. We had 11 such games all last season. Last year, we gave up under 100 pts 8 times. So far this year, we are at 4.

I am not worried about offensive rank. The offense isn't even going to start to take off until PG starts playing. Playing rock solid defense without PG should scare the rest of the league. Opponents aren't likely reading to much into our offense yet. The combined record of teams we lost to is currently 20-9. The combined record of the teams we beat is 36-34 with GS being the main outlier at 2-9.
Three of our wins have come against teams with a combined 21-8 record.

[TucsonClip]

The Raptors were missing multiple key pieces and clearly exhausted in the 4th, so I wouldn't celebrate our defense too much. Now what they did on Kawhi was actually impressive, but it's a different story with PG out there and guys being able to knock down an open shot every now and then.

I've got a bad feeling about Sham, if he returns in under a month I'm celebrating. Jerome will get another (maybe last) real shot to prove that he belongs.

Game ball goes to McGruder for making his first basket as a Clipper!

McGruder might get a boost of playing time with Shamet out

Im not sure thats warranted right now. Im fine with McGruder playing the role of stop gap defense while Kawhi sits midway through quarter 1 and 3. I think we are going to need Jerome's shooting with Shamet out. Hes the guy I would integrate into the rotation more.

[NippySudz]

Mcgruder is interesting

The guy had a few open shots that he passed up because he didn't feel comfortable taking them. He better not do that in the playoffs. Pass to a contested harkless even though you had the open lane .

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[NippySudz]

a game like tonight makes for a lot of concerns about the team.

Wait, did we lost? I was sure we won by 10 points with a poor shooting night. Imagine on a good shooting night.

When was the last time we had a good shooting night? Last night marks the 5th game in a row basically of horribly clunky offense. At a certain point it's not just a fluke bad game. The lineups Doc is using obviously doesn't help. PG is going to have a HUGE load to carry right out of the gate if we are going to continue shooting 25% from 3 every game. Since the first 3 games I believe we've gone from 1st ranked offense by a landslide down to 28th. The defense though has been elite at least, which is the one positive.

Jesus, do you not realize it's the first ten games of the season with new pieces being implemented?

They're not winning the playoffs right now m it's going to take time to implement want they want. Judge near asb.

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[nickhx2]

Mcgruder is interesting

The guy had a few open shots that he passed up because he didn't feel comfortable taking them. He better not do that in the playoffs. Pass to a contested harkless even though you had the open lane .

yeah, i mean if he was brought in to provide rotation level defense and shooting, then do it, whether you hit or miss. not shooting imbalances the offense so much.

[nickhx2]

Wait, did we lost? I was sure we won by 10 points with a poor shooting night. Imagine on a good shooting night.

When was the last time we had a good shooting night? Last night marks the 5th game in a row basically of horribly clunky offense. At a certain point it's not just a fluke bad game. The lineups Doc is using obviously doesn't help. PG is going to have a HUGE load to carry right out of the gate if we are going to continue shooting 25% from 3 every game. Since the first 3 games I believe we've gone from 1st ranked offense by a landslide down to 28th. The defense though has been elite at least, which is the one positive.

Jesus, do you not realize it's the first ten games of the season with new pieces being implemented?

They're not winning the playoffs right now m it's going to take time to implement want they want. Judge near asb.

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yeah don't you know? it's those absolutely disgusting doc lineups that cause the team to shoot poorly.

absolutely.

disgusting.


anyway, jesting aside, the team played against a surprisingly strong raps squad. as i mentioned in other discussion, i'm just worried that putting it all on one guy might be too much. there are things that i'm not sure he can fix just by being on the court. like for example, i think i'd just feel better if there were a little more structure on getting the shooters open, as a whole.

times like this i miss having cp3 run a play that gets jj redick off a curl into a perfectly open three.

[NippySudz]

When was the last time we had a good shooting night? Last night marks the 5th game in a row basically of horribly clunky offense. At a certain point it's not just a fluke bad game. The lineups Doc is using obviously doesn't help. PG is going to have a HUGE load to carry right out of the gate if we are going to continue shooting 25% from 3 every game. Since the first 3 games I believe we've gone from 1st ranked offense by a landslide down to 28th. The defense though has been elite at least, which is the one positive.

Jesus, do you not realize it's the first ten games of the season with new pieces being implemented?

They're not winning the playoffs right now m it's going to take time to implement want they want. Judge near asb.

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yeah don't you know? it's those absolutely disgusting doc lineups that cause the team to shoot poorly.

absolutely.

disgusting.


anyway, jesting aside, the team played against a surprisingly strong raps squad. as i mentioned in other discussion, i'm just worried that putting it all on one guy might be too much. there are things that i'm not sure he can fix just by being on the court. like for example, i think i'd just feel better if there were a little more structure on getting the shooters open, as a whole.

times like this i miss having cp3 run a play that gets jj redick off a curl into a perfectly open three.

I do agree. They depend on Leonard to much and I don't like that. They do need some movement and skip the ball around in my opinion. It'll probably be good to get a third playmaker (Lou is one)but I'm excited to see what they can do with two superstars in the lineup. I'm hoping the offense will run a little better.

I don't like how Beverley doesn't try to do anything with the ball offensively. Bails out defenses when he puts it on others to make shots he can make himself or make plays himself.

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[Roscoe Sheed]

It was a nice victory. Yes, the raptors had guys out, but they are very athletic and play very hard.

I think their hustling style allows them to play more aggressively than most teams. They were definitely getting away with a lot of fouls- especially on Kawhi. The refs don’t give him nearly as many calls as most superstars

[TheNewEra]

Shamet needed time to heal up anyway with the wrist and slow start. Come back refocused and less pressure

[playaloc916]

McGruder or Robinson will probably get a bump in minutes while Shamet is recovering. It seems like Robinson is kind of like a poor-man's Shamet, so it would be huge if he could replicate even a little of what Shamet was doing. But his first few games he hasn't looked good at all. Maybe we give McGruder some minutes and see how he does...