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An early summer 2024 thread

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Re: An early summer 2024 thread 

Post#1121 » by madmaxmedia » Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:59 pm

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Roscoe Sheed wrote:Pop can probably find a role for him- I wish him the best


Tragic, really. One and done at Kentucky. 11 ppg on 35%/30% shooting? Should have stayed in school and learned the game. IMO, a G-League education is far inferior to an NCAA one, especially at a primo program like Kentucky.

He fell to the late second round, and is now on a non-guaranteed training camp deal at age 22, hanging on to his pro career by his fingernails.

Or he could've gotten exposed as a sub par player his second year in at Kentucky and never got drafted at all. He can make the Spurs roster if he can find his jumper again which disappeared this past season. We'll see.


The thing was, he was already exposed as a subpar prospect in his first season at Kentucky (but I get your point- his stock could have dropped even further in a second year...)

We will never know, but IMO he might have developed a little better and matured staying at Kentucky for another year. Of course either way it could have turned out that he washes out in the NBA because either way we all agree his skills right now are not enough. It's also possible he could have gotten lapped by the next recruiting class at Kentucky, in which case his best shot was to leave Kentucky for the draft or transfer to another school (which could also have been very dicey.)

I hope he sticks in SA though.
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Post#1122 » by KL2 » Thu Aug 15, 2024 4:18 pm

Another one. He didn’t participate but Trentyn Flowers was there too.

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Post#1124 » by Wammy Giveaway » Thu Aug 15, 2024 7:02 pm

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Here's what I don't understand. Clipper fans keep bringing up "league hates the Clippers" as the only reason why they have the most back-to-backs - I don't buy that. There has to be some sort of hidden agenda from one of the higher ups. Sure the schedulers are the ones who set up the dates for all teams, but when it comes to the Clippers there's this mindset of "same ol' losers." Not sure if the schedule has been released, but there is a feeling of forced lottery involved; they want the Clippers to tank and gift the Thunder a no. 1 draft pick.

Consider this: assuming Clippers renamed themselves to Supersonics with the stipulation of moving back to Seattle within a year and cutting off all connections to the Clippers in every way, shape or form, would the schedulers have given them a fairer shot? Back-to-back counts decreased, no afternoon games, less 5-in-7s, and a zero percent chance of a back-to-back-to-back surprise, which we have not seen since the last NBA Lockout. If there was a hidden agenda, it would be this: Clippers forever getting the worst schedule option until they agree to move to Seattle, become the new Supersonics, and cover for Clay Bennett's actions of stealing Supersonics from the city, essentially taking the blame for merely existing. That would be one heck of a Batman gambit.

As it stands, the cries of "foul" by the fans are empty to me.
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Re: An early summer 2024 thread 

Post#1129 » by MartinToVaught » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:59 pm

I wish I was surprised that we still got screwed on the schedule, but I'm not. I always knew it would happen.

In fairness, the tough early schedule was probably put together to showcase Intuit by bringing in good opponents. I can understand that even though it sucks for a reshuffled team that needs to build some early momentum.

The insane amount of back-to-backs is less excusable. It's starting to get out of control again after the NBA had put an emphasis on reducing them in recent years. This year, the fewest any team has is 13. In 2019-20, the league average was 12.4. Whatever scheduling algorithm they're using now that results in 20% of the league having to play 16 back-to-backs needs to be thrown out because it's not fit for purpose.

At least we're mostly free from the dreaded matinee games, so that's a silver lining.
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Post#1130 » by KL2 » Fri Aug 16, 2024 2:48 pm

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Post#1131 » by esqtvd » Fri Aug 16, 2024 8:17 pm

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Ballmer has no aesthetic sense whatsoever. None of his graphics ever work.

When you see the new logo next to others, it doesn't stand out at all. Only the Wiz and the Pistons are as bad. The others are instantly recognizable no matter how small or from what distance. THAT's what a logo is supposed to be. [And at least the Pistons' colors are striking.]

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Post#1132 » by esqtvd » Sat Aug 17, 2024 12:05 am

well, it beats losing--people forget how bad the Lakers were after Kobe

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I also think the Lakers are toast going forward. At least they're no better off than the Clippers are, with a lot less resources. The Buss family has no money except what's tied up in the team. They are not liquid, they are not in a position to go into the red, like Ballmer is.
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Post#1133 » by esqtvd » Sat Aug 17, 2024 1:39 am

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Me, I'd cut him, just like I said we should cut Mook in the spring of 2022. But Ballmer never seems to buy anybody out, or eat their contract outright. The last I can find is Milos Teodosic back in 2019. And PJ has made it clear he expects every penny of this contract. No buyout.

Now, it's been Ty's custom to give everybody a clean slate at the beginning of every season. If the Clippers are stuck with paying him anyway, we have such a huge void at the 4 it makes sense to see if he can earn his $11.5M. Or at least up his negative trade value a bit. Right now he's still on the books only to serve as salary cap ballast so we can take on somebody else's albatross. [Which is how he got here in the first place, 2 years of PJ for the remaining year of Mook.]

I guess they're waiting to see how he behaves in camp. But keeping him is Ballmer all the way.

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Re: An early summer 2024 thread 

Post#1134 » by KL2 » Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:40 pm

Grain of salt and all that. According to several Serbian media outlets the Clippers and Hawks are interested in signing the point guard. His buyout clause expires on the 20th so time is running out to get it done.

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Re: An early summer 2024 thread 

Post#1135 » by MartinToVaught » Sat Aug 17, 2024 4:37 pm

esqtvd wrote:When you see the new logo next to others, it doesn't stand out at all. Only the Wiz and the Pistons are as bad. The others are instantly recognizable no matter how small or from what distance. THAT's what a logo is supposed to be. [And at least the Pistons' colors are striking.]

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Whoever put that graphic together should have used either the Primary logo or the Partial logo, not the Global logo. Even Secondary A would have been better. Of course a logo that isn't designed for small sizes won't look good when it's shrunk down to that extent.

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In other words, it's not a design failure on the team's part. It's an illustration of why teams use a whole suite of logos instead of just one.
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Re: An early summer 2024 thread 

Post#1136 » by esqtvd » Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:12 pm

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esqtvd wrote:When you see the new logo next to others, it doesn't stand out at all. Only the Wiz and the Pistons are as bad. The others are instantly recognizable no matter how small or from what distance. THAT's what a logo is supposed to be. [And at least the Pistons' colors are striking.]

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Whoever put that graphic together should have used either the Primary logo or the Partial logo, not the Global logo. Even Secondary A would have been better. Of course a logo that isn't designed for small sizes won't look good when it's shrunk down to that extent.

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In other words, it's not a design failure on the team's part. It's an illustration of why teams use a whole suite of logos instead of just one.


The "primary" one has the same problem. Too dense to even know what it is. It's not striking and the shade of blue is dull.

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The "LA" one is ok but it could be "LA" anything. The LAC one was stupid and amateurish but you knew who and what it was. They all were.

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Re: An early summer 2024 thread 

Post#1137 » by KL2 » Sun Aug 18, 2024 4:23 pm

Since we were just talking about him.

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Re: An early summer 2024 thread 

Post#1138 » by Roscoe Sheed » Sun Aug 18, 2024 4:47 pm

KL2 wrote:Since we were just talking about him.

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oh well- I guess Batum wasn't able to persuade him
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Re: An early summer 2024 thread 

Post#1139 » by Ballings7 » Sun Aug 18, 2024 8:09 pm

Ha I knew Yabusele would get signed by someone.. and of course its Philly, and for the vet. min. Philly needed a true PF, and got one that should be productive for them.

Guessing Embiid had some influence there (communication).

Well, thats definitely a bummer for this team. They needed him (as of now before camp).. but he may of just chose them as a better team and is more familiar with the East Coast? Who knows but it sux regardless.
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Post#1140 » by MartinToVaught » Tue Aug 20, 2024 11:47 pm

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