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Post#341 » by bluejerseyjinx » Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:22 pm

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Mr B wrote:I really want a TE too but I’m scared of taking Dalton Kincaid now because of the issues with his back. To be that young and already having back issues is not a good sign. I’m also Leary of taking Michael Mayer. Athletically he tested really low. Not something you want from a 1st round pick. I’d prefer they wait until round 2 and draft Darnell Washington from Georgia.

You like the idea of moving back also?

I’m ok with trading back as long as they don’t trade back too far. A dream scenario for me would be for the Texans to draft Will Anderson at 2 and then trade up to 26 to draft Hendon Hooker. I would ask the Texans for their 2nd and 3rd to trade down. That would give the Cowboys #33, #58, and #65. I think anyone the Cowboys would want at 26 would still be there at 33.

I agree but not too far like you said. A dream scenario for me is too move back just a little and draft Steve Avila, Mazi Smith and then either John Michael Schmitz or Drew Sanders in round 2.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#342 » by Mr B » Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:07 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:You like the idea of moving back also?

I’m ok with trading back as long as they don’t trade back too far. A dream scenario for me would be for the Texans to draft Will Anderson at 2 and then trade up to 26 to draft Hendon Hooker. I would ask the Texans for their 2nd and 3rd to trade down. That would give the Cowboys #33, #58, and #65. I think anyone the Cowboys would want at 26 would still be there at 33.

I agree but not too far like you said. A dream scenario for me is too move back just a little and draft Steve Avila, Mazi Smith and then either John Michael Schmitz or Drew Sanders.

I’ve heard a lot of people think John Michael Schmitz is going to be a bust.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#343 » by bluejerseyjinx » Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:29 pm

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Mr B wrote:I’m ok with trading back as long as they don’t trade back too far. A dream scenario for me would be for the Texans to draft Will Anderson at 2 and then trade up to 26 to draft Hendon Hooker. I would ask the Texans for their 2nd and 3rd to trade down. That would give the Cowboys #33, #58, and #65. I think anyone the Cowboys would want at 26 would still be there at 33.

I agree but not too far like you said. A dream scenario for me is too move back just a little and draft Steve Avila, Mazi Smith and then either John Michael Schmitz or Drew Sanders.

I’ve heard a lot of people think John Michael Schmitz is going to be a bust.

Actually there are a lot of really good O-lineman that will be available in round 2. He was one of 4 on my list. Personally I take Drew Sanders if available now that I'm hearing Micah Parsons is going to be used more as an edge rusher. If the Cowboys plan on doing that [u]WE WILL NEED[/u] an inside LB.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#344 » by Micah Prescott » Wed Apr 26, 2023 4:43 pm

ACL surgery has come so far over the past 15~ years. It isn't what it used to be.

Adrian Peterson won MVP AFTER he tore his ACL and had surgery on it.

What I'm saying here is that I am okay with Dallas taking a risk on Bryan Bresee
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Post#345 » by Mr B » Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:39 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:I agree but not too far like you said. A dream scenario for me is too move back just a little and draft Steve Avila, Mazi Smith and then either John Michael Schmitz or Drew Sanders.

I’ve heard a lot of people think John Michael Schmitz is going to be a bust.

Actually there are a lot of really good O-lineman that will be available in round 2. He was one of 4 on my list. Personally I take Drew Sanders if available now that I'm hearing Micah Parsons is going to be used more as an edge rusher. If the Cowboys plan on doing that [u]WE WILL NEED[/u] an inside LB.

I’d love for them to draft Drew Sanders. Not to mention Micah but LVE is injury prone too. They’re definitely going to need another LB or two.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#346 » by Mr B » Wed Apr 26, 2023 6:39 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:ACL surgery has come so far over the past 15~ years. It isn't what it used to be.

Adrian Peterson won MVP AFTER he tore his ACL and had surgery on it.

What I'm saying here is that I am okay with Dallas taking a risk on Bryan Bresee

Regardless of what I think I’m hearing Bryan Bresee is in consideration.
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Post#347 » by Micah Prescott » Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:52 pm

I am wondering if we can trade up to the top of the 2nd for Bresee though, I can see that guy falling far on injury fears.

We traded up to the top of the 2nd for Lawrence and that worked out pretty well all things considered.
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Post#348 » by bluejerseyjinx » Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:49 pm

I don't understand why you like Bresee over Mazi Smith. To me its a no brainer.
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Post#349 » by Mr B » Wed Apr 26, 2023 10:20 pm

bluejerseyjinx wrote:I don't understand why you like Bresee over Mazi Smith. To me its a no brainer.

Especially when you factor in the injury concern.
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Post#350 » by bluejerseyjinx » Wed Apr 26, 2023 10:26 pm

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bluejerseyjinx wrote:I don't understand why you like Bresee over Mazi Smith. To me its a no brainer.

Especially when you factor in the injury concern.

Even without the injury concern I always thought Mazi Smith was head and shoulders better than Bresee.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#351 » by Micah Prescott » Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:21 pm

I would take Mazi over Bresee, I am thinking Bresee for RD2. I want a TE for RD1 and I am just trying to figure out ways we can address both TE and DT in this draft with good prospects.

Bresee I think *might* be undervalued because of the injury concerns, so maybe he drops and we can get a discount.

Mazi won't drop.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#352 » by Mr B » Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:02 am

Here is the latest “hot name” for the Cowboys at 26 but more than likely if they trade down. Luke Musgrave. 6’6” 253 lb TE from Oregon St.

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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#353 » by Cactus Jack » Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:33 am

If injuries take Bresee off your list, then you're gonna love Musgrave.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#354 » by Mr B » Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:03 am

Cactus Jack wrote:If injuries take Bresee off your list, then you're gonna love Musgrave.

I would rather not take any player with injury concerns. That’s why Dalton Kincaid (back) is off my list. There are too many really good players that will be available that don’t have injury issues.
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Post#355 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Apr 27, 2023 2:47 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:I would take Mazi over Bresee, I am thinking Bresee for RD2. I want a TE for RD1 and I am just trying to figure out ways we can address both TE and DT in this draft with good prospects.

Bresee I think *might* be undervalued because of the injury concerns, so maybe he drops and we can get a discount.

Mazi won't drop.

I just hate the thought of taking a TE in round one. Just the thought of taking a TE in the first round makes my skin crawl. I like our current TE's. The Te depth is good this year and I don't mind picking up one after round 2. I still believe in my heart and mind that DT, OL and LB should be our focus for the first two rounds. JMO. I don't like our O-line heading into training camp. We need another piece and more depth if we are to be a dominate running team this season. If we go DT and LB I believe we will be a top 3 defense next year that will be the strength of the team. That alone might help take most of the pressure off your boy to have to throw the ball so much. Run, run, run and a lot more play action should be helpful. Putting the team on Dak's back isn't and hasn't worked. He's not good or talented enough. Lets make Dan Quinn and the defense be the strength of the team this season.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#356 » by Mr B » Thu Apr 27, 2023 4:35 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:I would take Mazi over Bresee, I am thinking Bresee for RD2. I want a TE for RD1 and I am just trying to figure out ways we can address both TE and DT in this draft with good prospects.

Bresee I think *might* be undervalued because of the injury concerns, so maybe he drops and we can get a discount.

Mazi won't drop.

I just hate the thought of taking a TE in round one. Just the thought of taking a TE in the first round makes my skin crawl. I like our current TE's. The Te depth is good this year and I don't mind picking up one after round 2. I still believe in my heart and mind that DT, OL and LB should be our focus for the first two rounds. JMO. I don't like our O-line heading into training camp. We need another piece and more depth if we are to be a dominate running team this season. If we go DT and LB I believe we will be a top 3 defense next year that will be the strength of the team. That alone might help take most of the pressure off your boy to have to throw the ball so much. Run, run, run and a lot more play action should be helpful. Putting the team on Dak's back isn't and hasn't worked. He's not good or talented enough. Lets make Dan Quinn and the defense be the strength of the team this season.

Now that we are here on draft day I agree that I don’t want them to go TE in round 1. I think this draft is too deep at TE. They could get a really good TE in the 3rd round. I feel the same way about RB. Even a DT will be available in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. This draft is deep at those positions. They do need playmakers though. Right now Lamb and Pollard are the only playmakers they have. They also have a huge hole at LG.

So with that in mind I want them to go OL at #26. I like one of these three guys: Darnell Wright, O’Cyrus Torrence, Steve Avila. I think any one of those 3 guys could step in and start at LG on day 1. Other than that if a playmaker like Jahmyr Gibbs is still on the board I would consider taking him. Or if Joey Porter Jr falls to #26. I do not want them to trade up.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#357 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:07 pm

Even though we have in our minds what we each would like to do tonight, I still believe there is a great chance something may fall into our lap when we pick. I think the draft will get crazy starting with the 2nd pick. I can see Houston trading their pick and moving back. There will be many teams throwing monkey wrenches into the whole process till all the QB's are gone. Not factual, but a feeling.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#358 » by Mr B » Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:27 pm

They have to be patient and allow the draft to play itself out. No need to trade up. Trust your board.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#359 » by bluejerseyjinx » Thu Apr 27, 2023 6:40 pm

Mr B wrote:They have to be patient and allow the draft to play itself out. No need to trade up. Trust your board.

I'm kinda liking the offer the Saints have rumored to have made the other but I think we can do better than that offer. But if we took the Saints offer for instance, we move back to 29 and get their 4th round pick. Package that 4th round pick with something and get another 2nd round pick. Getting 3 starting quality players in the first 58 players taken sounds a bit appealing to me.
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Re: 2023 NFL Draft: Dallas Cowboys 

Post#360 » by Mr B » Thu Apr 27, 2023 7:36 pm

Well here is the latest rumor. TE Sam LaPorta 6’4” 245 lbs from Iowa. Would love the player but not sure incant him at 26. This pick would be better if the trade down a couple of spots.

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