Cactus Jack wrote:How do we feel about Jalen Hurts being the highest paid player in Football?
Its just me and I can't speak for anyone else, but there isn't a QB currently in the NFL that should be making more than Showtime Mahomes. IMHO.
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Cactus Jack wrote:How do we feel about Jalen Hurts being the highest paid player in Football?
Otis Driftwood wrote:Cactus Jack wrote:How do we feel about Jalen Hurts being the highest paid player in Football?
Well... I feel like the bar for Dak's 2nd extension was just established.
Mr B wrote:Otis Driftwood wrote:Cactus Jack wrote:How do we feel about Jalen Hurts being the highest paid player in Football?
Well... I feel like the bar for Dak's 2nd extension was just established.
Do you think they give it to him? I get the impression that Jerry has some serious buyers remorse. Especially after watching Hurts lead his team to the SB. If Dak doesn’t do the same before he needs a new deal I don’t think Jerry is going to pay him.
Mr B wrote:Otis Driftwood wrote:Cactus Jack wrote:How do we feel about Jalen Hurts being the highest paid player in Football?
Well... I feel like the bar for Dak's 2nd extension was just established.
Do you think they give it to him? I get the impression that Jerry has some serious buyers remorse. Especially after watching Hurts lead his team to the SB. If Dak doesn’t do the same before he needs a new deal I don’t think Jerry is going to pay him.
Mr B wrote:Here is some pretty good information about Dak’s contract and pending extension. Technically Dak 4 years left on his contract (including this coming season). The last two years of the deal are voidable though, so really he has 2 years left, this season and next season. If they want to save money in the long run they need to get a deal done this off season or during the season. If they wait until the 2024 off season he will likely just wait until that off season when he will become a true UFA. He has a no tag clause and a no trade clause in his contract.
https://youtu.be/OUmDeNq63-Y
I think if we see the Cowboys use a premium pick (1-3) on a QB that will tell us a lot about what their plans are for Dak and his extension.
Micah Prescott wrote:Mr B wrote:Here is some pretty good information about Dak’s contract and pending extension. Technically Dak 4 years left on his contract (including this coming season). The last two years of the deal are voidable though, so really he has 2 years left, this season and next season. If they want to save money in the long run they need to get a deal done this off season or during the season. If they wait until the 2024 off season he will likely just wait until that off season when he will become a true UFA. He has a no tag clause and a no trade clause in his contract.
https://youtu.be/OUmDeNq63-Y
I think if we see the Cowboys use a premium pick (1-3) on a QB that will tell us a lot about what their plans are for Dak and his extension.
I think they are going to wait and see what happens next season. I do not think they will draft a QB at all based on the fact that they didn't bring any in to look at and we resigned Cooper Rush. Like I questioned earlier, I wonder if they believe Rush is the future after Dak?
If Dak shows up next season and Dallas goes deep, they will keep him. Dak can't void they last 2 years of his contract, Jerry is the only one who can void that. If he doesn't show up we might be looking at the Cooper Rush era.
We could probably trade Dak's last 3 contract years too, get a multiple 1st round picks.
Mr B wrote:Here are the problems with that. The final two years are automatic void years. It’s happening regardless. Also the longer they wait the more they will have to pay, just like the last time they signed him. You have to remember that Josh Allen, Herbert, and Joe Burrow (not to mention Jackson) are all getting extensions this season or next season.
If they sign him now it’s likely for a deal similar to Hurts. If they wait the Cowboys are likely making Dak the highest paid player in NFL history on a fully guaranteed contract. Either that or they let him walk for nothing. They also cannot franchise him again.
Mr B wrote:Micah Prescott wrote:Mr B wrote:Here is some pretty good information about Dak’s contract and pending extension. Technically Dak 4 years left on his contract (including this coming season). The last two years of the deal are voidable though, so really he has 2 years left, this season and next season. If they want to save money in the long run they need to get a deal done this off season or during the season. If they wait until the 2024 off season he will likely just wait until that off season when he will become a true UFA. He has a no tag clause and a no trade clause in his contract.
https://youtu.be/OUmDeNq63-Y
I think if we see the Cowboys use a premium pick (1-3) on a QB that will tell us a lot about what their plans are for Dak and his extension.
I think they are going to wait and see what happens next season. I do not think they will draft a QB at all based on the fact that they didn't bring any in to look at and we resigned Cooper Rush. Like I questioned earlier, I wonder if they believe Rush is the future after Dak?
If Dak shows up next season and Dallas goes deep, they will keep him. Dak can't void they last 2 years of his contract, Jerry is the only one who can void that. If he doesn't show up we might be looking at the Cooper Rush era.
We could probably trade Dak's last 3 contract years too, get a multiple 1st round picks.
Here are the problems with that. The final two years are automatic void years. It’s happening regardless. Also the longer they wait the more they will have to pay, just like the last time they signed him. You have to remember that Josh Allen, Herbert, and Joe Burrow (not to mention Jackson) are all getting extensions this season or next season.
If they sign him now it’s likely for a deal similar to Hurts. If they wait the Cowboys are likely making Dak the highest paid player in NFL history on a fully guaranteed contract. Either that or they let him walk for nothing. They also cannot franchise him again.
Micah Prescott wrote:Mr B wrote:Micah Prescott wrote:I think they are going to wait and see what happens next season. I do not think they will draft a QB at all based on the fact that they didn't bring any in to look at and we resigned Cooper Rush. Like I questioned earlier, I wonder if they believe Rush is the future after Dak?
If Dak shows up next season and Dallas goes deep, they will keep him. Dak can't void they last 2 years of his contract, Jerry is the only one who can void that. If he doesn't show up we might be looking at the Cooper Rush era.
We could probably trade Dak's last 3 contract years too, get a multiple 1st round picks.
Here are the problems with that. The final two years are automatic void years. It’s happening regardless. Also the longer they wait the more they will have to pay, just like the last time they signed him. You have to remember that Josh Allen, Herbert, and Joe Burrow (not to mention Jackson) are all getting extensions this season or next season.
If they sign him now it’s likely for a deal similar to Hurts. If they wait the Cowboys are likely making Dak the highest paid player in NFL history on a fully guaranteed contract. Either that or they let him walk for nothing. They also cannot franchise him again.
If they are voided no matter what then why are they even there? Basically he signed a 4 year extension that ends no matter what in 2 years? I guess that is how they had to work around the cap? Confusing IMO.
I do see his contract includes a no-trade clause so that isn't happening.
I guess you're right here. Dallas is going to have to make a decision on Dak before the season ends. That is not ideal.
Although I am confused as to why they can't franchise him again? From what I recall you can franchise a player infinitely but it costs more every time you do it.
Mr B wrote:Micah Prescott wrote:Mr B wrote:Here are the problems with that. The final two years are automatic void years. It’s happening regardless. Also the longer they wait the more they will have to pay, just like the last time they signed him. You have to remember that Josh Allen, Herbert, and Joe Burrow (not to mention Jackson) are all getting extensions this season or next season.
If they sign him now it’s likely for a deal similar to Hurts. If they wait the Cowboys are likely making Dak the highest paid player in NFL history on a fully guaranteed contract. Either that or they let him walk for nothing. They also cannot franchise him again.
If they are voided no matter what then why are they even there? Basically he signed a 4 year extension that ends no matter what in 2 years? I guess that is how they had to work around the cap? Confusing IMO.
I do see his contract includes a no-trade clause so that isn't happening.
I guess you're right here. Dallas is going to have to make a decision on Dak before the season ends. That is not ideal.
Although I am confused as to why they can't franchise him again? From what I recall you can franchise a player infinitely but it costs more every time you do it.
Yea the voided years are for cap reasons. Hurts has the same thing built into his contract.
The reason they cannot franchise him again is because Dak’s agent negotiated that into the contract. Normally they would be able to but the Jones’ agreed to have a no franchise clause in the deal.
Micah Prescott wrote:Mr B wrote:Micah Prescott wrote:If they are voided no matter what then why are they even there? Basically he signed a 4 year extension that ends no matter what in 2 years? I guess that is how they had to work around the cap? Confusing IMO.
I do see his contract includes a no-trade clause so that isn't happening.
I guess you're right here. Dallas is going to have to make a decision on Dak before the season ends. That is not ideal.
Although I am confused as to why they can't franchise him again? From what I recall you can franchise a player infinitely but it costs more every time you do it.
Yea the voided years are for cap reasons. Hurts has the same thing built into his contract.
The reason they cannot franchise him again is because Dak’s agent negotiated that into the contract. Normally they would be able to but the Jones’ agreed to have a no franchise clause in the deal.
This is not good. In all likelihood Dak is going to sign a huge deal mid season, unless he does really poor opening the season but I doubt that because he is always good during the regular season.
I like Dak I think he is a "good" QB but I do not like the idea of signing him again long term before knowing what happens in the post season next year. That *should* be the basis of his next contract.
His agent deserves a raise. He really thought this through with the no trade and no franchise clauses.
Micah Prescott wrote:No way they do that in this draft, it would be the next draft. We only roster 2 QBs and have resigned Cooper Rush. Plus they haven't given any QBs workouts or given any clues at all they are even thinking QB.
I do not put it past them to be thinking that Rush is "the guy". I do not think they would have resigned him if they didn't believe he could become a starter if needed.