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Re: Mark Williams trade to lakers for kconect 4 Cam and pick 

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Re: Mark Williams trade to lakers for kconect 4 Cam and pick 

Post#62 » by Jammer » Mon Feb 10, 2025 7:50 pm

Outsider with a comment.

Preface:
For years I wondered why the Lakers were holding on to future picks and not putting a better supporting cast around AD & LeBron. I figured that the plan was to tank from 2027 to 2029 to get Top 4 picks to re-load (and not convey the Top 4 Protected 2027 1rst to Utah).

Now that the Lakers traded the 2029, and tried to trade the 2031, I can only wonder:

If the Lakers KNEW IN ADVANCE that Mark Williams had medical issues, and that they would need to really get into his physical and medical history and current condition, why wouldn't they execute the trade by Noon on Tuesday, so if there was an issue with the physical, they'd have 3 hours to pivot to another big man.

They traded for Luka 6 days before the deadline. Plenty of time there to back out if they had doubts at the physical and re-group. Why not trade for Mark Williams more than 48 hours before the 3 PM Thursday trade deadline to allow time for a contingency? You put everything into the Williams trade (Knecht, Reddish, 2030 Swap, 2031 1rst) that playing coy didn't save anything anyway.
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Re: Mark Williams trade to lakers for kconect 4 Cam and pick 

Post#63 » by LAKESHOW » Mon Feb 10, 2025 8:08 pm

Hornets contacted and called us last second. Stated that they see, know and hear we need a Big man. And we want to offer you Mark Williams. We Jumped and said YES! We gonna send as much of the house that we can and over pay. HOWEVER, all we need is for him to pass our doctors. And you can have connect plus more. Then....we found out the type of goods they were sellin. They were tryin to send us lousy goods, and deal with us in a bad faith transaction. This is why the report came out that The Hornets Failed in dealing with the Lakers organization. These guys were tryin to sell us a bag of sh**, and labeled it a bag of gold
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Re: Mark Williams trade to lakers for kconect 4 Cam and pick 

Post#64 » by Doug_12 » Mon Feb 10, 2025 9:35 pm

Jammer wrote:Outsider with a comment.

Preface:
For years I wondered why the Lakers were holding on to future picks and not putting a better supporting cast around AD & LeBron. I figured that the plan was to tank from 2027 to 2029 to get Top 4 picks to re-load (and not convey the Top 4 Protected 2027 1rst to Utah).

Now that the Lakers traded the 2029, and tried to trade the 2031, I can only wonder:

If the Lakers KNEW IN ADVANCE that Mark Williams had medical issues, and that they would need to really get into his physical and medical history and current condition, why wouldn't they execute the trade by Noon on Tuesday, so if there was an issue with the physical, they'd have 3 hours to pivot to another big man.

They traded for Luka 6 days before the deadline. Plenty of time there to back out if they had doubts at the physical and re-group. Why not trade for Mark Williams more than 48 hours before the 3 PM Thursday trade deadline to allow time for a contingency? You put everything into the Williams trade (Knecht, Reddish, 2030 Swap, 2031 1rst) that playing coy didn't save anything anyway.

From the outside the most plausible scenario is that the Hornets contacted us close to the deadline, and we just saw the situation too rosy. I assume the Hornets were not painting a horrendous picture of Williams (which seller would?) and Pelinka was probably blinded by his own narrative, that we can get a very good offensive center with great rebounding (who was also a good defender a tier below not very long ago), cheaply, just because he had some bad luck with injuries in the past - which are all gone by now.
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Re: Mark Williams trade to lakers for kconect 4 Cam and pick 

Post#65 » by LakerPhan » Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:27 am

Hornets are trying to dispute the Lakers attempt at voiding the trade...

Stay tuned...
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Re: Mark Williams trade to lakers for kconect 4 Cam and pick 

Post#66 » by LAKESHOW » Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:33 am

I "think" dude missed like a whole season. A report said something like 60% of games due to injury. These injury reports that he has in his young career are alarming. They wanted to dump him fast and tried to stick us with the bill.
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Re: Mark Williams trade to lakers for kconect 4 Cam and pick 

Post#67 » by Doug_12 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 9:11 am

LakerPhan wrote:Hornets are trying to dispute the Lakers attempt at voiding the trade...

Stay tuned...

It is interesting as passing physicals are part of all trades. Teams are not used to use them as a loophole - because what can change in 2 days - so this kind of disputes hardly ever happen. I'm very interested in what is the true view of each organization in this, but probably both were acting in good faith.

Irrespective of the true motives though: If passing physical was a condition of the trade, then it's a clear situation imo. We are not the first in the history of the NBA who did this.
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Re: Mark Williams trade to lakers for kconect 4 Cam and pick rescinded 

Post#68 » by snaquille oatmeal » Tue Feb 11, 2025 3:13 pm

Any links to the rumors that the Hornets are challenging the rescinded trade claim by the Lakers
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Re: Mark Williams trade to lakers for kconect 4 Cam and pick rescinded 

Post#69 » by LakerPhan » Tue Feb 11, 2025 5:46 pm

snaquille oatmeal wrote:Any links to the rumors that the Hornets are challenging the rescinded trade claim by the Lakers



https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/hornets-disputing-lakers-decision-to-rescind-mark-williams-trade-in-contact-with-nba-per-report/
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Re: Mark Williams trade to lakers for kconect 4 Cam and pick rescinded 

Post#70 » by SlimShady83 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:07 pm

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Re: Mark Williams trade to lakers for kconect 4 Cam and pick 

Post#71 » by tamaraw08 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:09 pm

Doug_12 wrote:
Jammer wrote:Outsider with a comment.

Preface:
For years I wondered why the Lakers were holding on to future picks and not putting a better supporting cast around AD & LeBron. I figured that the plan was to tank from 2027 to 2029 to get Top 4 picks to re-load (and not convey the Top 4 Protected 2027 1rst to Utah).

Now that the Lakers traded the 2029, and tried to trade the 2031, I can only wonder:

If the Lakers KNEW IN ADVANCE that Mark Williams had medical issues, and that they would need to really get into his physical and medical history and current condition, why wouldn't they execute the trade by Noon on Tuesday, so if there was an issue with the physical, they'd have 3 hours to pivot to another big man.

They traded for Luka 6 days before the deadline. Plenty of time there to back out if they had doubts at the physical and re-group. Why not trade for Mark Williams more than 48 hours before the 3 PM Thursday trade deadline to allow time for a contingency? You put everything into the Williams trade (Knecht, Reddish, 2030 Swap, 2031 1rst) that playing coy didn't save anything anyway.

From the outside the most plausible scenario is that the Hornets contacted us close to the deadline, and we just saw the situation too rosy. I assume the Hornets were not painting a horrendous picture of Williams (which seller would?) and Pelinka was probably blinded by his own narrative, that we can get a very good offensive center with great rebounding (who was also a good defender a tier below not very long ago), cheaply, just because he had some bad luck with injuries in the past - which are all gone by now.

Anyone would be very impressed if they just look at Mark’s last 7-8 games stats.
I watched that 38 pt highlights and I must say, that’s 1 of the most unimpressive stint from a player.
He didn’t have much lift/ hops especially if you compare his defensive highlights from before.
Also note that his last 7 games or so were garbage games.
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Re: Mark Williams trade to lakers for kconect 4 Cam and pick 

Post#72 » by tamaraw08 » Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:09 pm

Doug_12 wrote:
Jammer wrote:Outsider with a comment.

Preface:
For years I wondered why the Lakers were holding on to future picks and not putting a better supporting cast around AD & LeBron. I figured that the plan was to tank from 2027 to 2029 to get Top 4 picks to re-load (and not convey the Top 4 Protected 2027 1rst to Utah).

Now that the Lakers traded the 2029, and tried to trade the 2031, I can only wonder:

If the Lakers KNEW IN ADVANCE that Mark Williams had medical issues, and that they would need to really get into his physical and medical history and current condition, why wouldn't they execute the trade by Noon on Tuesday, so if there was an issue with the physical, they'd have 3 hours to pivot to another big man.

They traded for Luka 6 days before the deadline. Plenty of time there to back out if they had doubts at the physical and re-group. Why not trade for Mark Williams more than 48 hours before the 3 PM Thursday trade deadline to allow time for a contingency? You put everything into the Williams trade (Knecht, Reddish, 2030 Swap, 2031 1rst) that playing coy didn't save anything anyway.

From the outside the most plausible scenario is that the Hornets contacted us close to the deadline, and we just saw the situation too rosy. I assume the Hornets were not painting a horrendous picture of Williams (which seller would?) and Pelinka was probably blinded by his own narrative, that we can get a very good offensive center with great rebounding (who was also a good defender a tier below not very long ago), cheaply, just because he had some bad luck with injuries in the past - which are all gone by now.

Anyone would be very impressed if they just look at Mark’s last 7-8 games stats.
I watched that 38 pt highlights and I must say, that’s 1 of the most unimpressive stint from a player.
He didn’t have much lift/ hops especially if you compare his defensive highlights from before.
Also note that his last 7 games or so were garbage games.
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Re: Mark Williams trade to lakers for kconect 4 Cam and pick rescinded 

Post#73 » by LakerPhan » Tue Feb 11, 2025 10:29 pm

@ tamarawa08: You can say that again...!

I was also not very impressed with that Jazz center last night, that Ainge wanted an arm and a leg for, his numbers were only slightly better than Hayes and he only did better when Hayes was out...
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Re: Mark Williams trade to lakers for kconect 4 Cam and pick rescinded 

Post#74 » by Jammer » Fri Feb 14, 2025 12:47 pm

ANYBODY KNOW WHEN THE ARBITRATION HEARING WITH ADAM SILVER IS SCHEDULED???

Logically it would seem to be Monday or Tuesday?
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Re: Mark Williams trade to lakers for kconect 4 Cam and pick 

Post#75 » by DanishLakerFan » Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:26 pm

Jammer wrote:Outsider with a comment.

Preface:
For years I wondered why the Lakers were holding on to future picks and not putting a better supporting cast around AD & LeBron. I figured that the plan was to tank from 2027 to 2029 to get Top 4 picks to re-load (and not convey the Top 4 Protected 2027 1rst to Utah).

Now that the Lakers traded the 2029, and tried to trade the 2031, I can only wonder:

If the Lakers KNEW IN ADVANCE that Mark Williams had medical issues, and that they would need to really get into his physical and medical history and current condition, why wouldn't they execute the trade by Noon on Tuesday, so if there was an issue with the physical, they'd have 3 hours to pivot to another big man.

They traded for Luka 6 days before the deadline. Plenty of time there to back out if they had doubts at the physical and re-group. Why not trade for Mark Williams more than 48 hours before the 3 PM Thursday trade deadline to allow time for a contingency? You put everything into the Williams trade (Knecht, Reddish, 2030 Swap, 2031 1rst) that playing coy didn't save anything anyway.


I dont really think they had the time to do their own physical assessment, but probably did the deal because they're weren't too concerned with the stuff they knew about from the medical history they did have access to at the time of the deal.

Dont think Charlotte were hiding anything either, but maybe they found something structural that they didn't like or knew about. They traded Bynum back in the day because thye didn't trust his body to hold up, which it didn't. Kinda like when everybody thought Myles Turner was a major injury risk due to the way he was running.

Personally, wouldn't mind if they were forced to make the deal.

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