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Re: Jordan Clarkson 

Post#141 » by milesfides » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:06 am

TyCobb wrote:Clarkson is more of a point guard than your boy LaVine, no doubt.


I'm not into boys, sorry.

And there is no doubt about you're absolutely wrong, because nobody has raved about Clarkson's point guard skills, even after his great summer league. On the other hand, scouts, media, coaches, and teammates have been effusive about LaVine's surprising passing and playmaking running an offense. Simple google searches will sort you out.

Back on topic, Clarkson is a gem. His ability to get to the rim is a rare and natural talent, like James Harden. Some guys just get to the rim easily, and Clarkson has it. It's up to him how well-rounded his game becomes, but considering how lacking his playmaking skills are, I'd say he's a natural scorer off the bench, or if he develops that jump shot, he can be a slightly undersized starting shooting guard - still bigger than Jodie Meeks though. Obviously his ability to defend will be a key factor in his getting minutes and a bigger role.

Regardless, his contract deal is a steal; he's a solid asset and a good prospect. I back anybody who I think can help us becoming championship contenders. Not everybody has to be an Anthony Davis or Kevin Love or Russell Westbrook. Role players like Wes Johnson, Jordan Hill, Ryan Kelly have value because they can be good at what they do - and those roles have been proven on championship teams.

Scoring combo guards have proven their value, whether they're role players like Barea and Terry or stars like Dwayne Wade. I just wish we held on to Bazemore, because with Clarkson and Bazemore in the backcourt, we would just punish some teams, just cut up their defenses.
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Re: Jordan Clarkson 

Post#142 » by milesfides » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:11 am

Michael Lucky wrote:sure baffles me that Lavine wants to be a PG. It's hard to get behind players that don't even understand their own strength.


What's baffling? He looked great in the summer league, unselfish, good vision, and some nifty passes. Coaches, teammates, media all raved about his playmaking and ability to run an offense. Like I said before, it's on the frontpage of nba.com.

What's more baffling is ignoring the plethora of available information.
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Re: Jordan Clarkson 

Post#143 » by TyCobb » Fri Sep 26, 2014 5:25 am

milesfides wrote:
TyCobb wrote:Clarkson is more of a point guard than your boy LaVine, no doubt.


I'm not into boys, sorry.

And there is no doubt about you're absolutely wrong, because nobody has raved about Clarkson's point guard skills, even after his great summer league. On the other hand, scouts, media, coaches, and teammates have been effusive about LaVine's surprising passing and playmaking running an offense. Simple google searches will sort you out.


Clarkson has more experience than LaVine at PG at levels higher than HS basketball. Clarkson is not a pure point guard like Marshall, but neither is LaVine.

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Re: Jordan Clarkson 

Post#144 » by crazyeights » Fri Sep 26, 2014 7:28 am

For me I became a believer when I watched this workout video:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DJ9LIX8pKg[/youtube]

He worked on his shooting and more importantly his read and reacting. Then what struck me is if you watch his highlights from SL you can see his assists in the video below shows that he's implementing these reads super quickly.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhaB0d2ot44[/youtube]

You see a few more plays here from scrimmages the other day:

http://www.nba.com/lakers/video/2014/09/23/140923Scrimmov//

He's not going to be Steve Nash, but I think he can be a capable passer if this is where he's starting out.
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Re: Jordan Clarkson 

Post#145 » by Slava » Fri Sep 26, 2014 2:55 pm

I think Clarkson played point at Missouri. His senior season shooting slump was the best thing to have happened for us, otherwise he was a lock to go between 25 - 30.
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Re: Jordan Clarkson 

Post#146 » by Slava » Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:00 pm

milesfides wrote:
TyCobb wrote:Clarkson is more of a point guard than your boy LaVine, no doubt.


I'm not into boys, sorry.

And there is no doubt about you're absolutely wrong, because nobody has raved about Clarkson's point guard skills, even after his great summer league. On the other hand, scouts, media, coaches, and teammates have been effusive about LaVine's surprising passing and playmaking running an offense. Simple google searches will sort you out.

Back on topic, Clarkson is a gem. His ability to get to the rim is a rare and natural talent, like James Harden. Some guys just get to the rim easily, and Clarkson has it. It's up to him how well-rounded his game becomes, but considering how lacking his playmaking skills are, I'd say he's a natural scorer off the bench, or if he develops that jump shot, he can be a slightly undersized starting shooting guard - still bigger than Jodie Meeks though. Obviously his ability to defend will be a key factor in his getting minutes and a bigger role.

Regardless, his contract deal is a steal; he's a solid asset and a good prospect. I back anybody who I think can help us becoming championship contenders. Not everybody has to be an Anthony Davis or Kevin Love or Russell Westbrook. Role players like Wes Johnson, Jordan Hill, Ryan Kelly have value because they can be good at what they do - and those roles have been proven on championship teams.

Scoring combo guards have proven their value, whether they're role players like Barea and Terry or stars like Dwayne Wade. I just wish we held on to Bazemore, because with Clarkson and Bazemore in the backcourt, we would just punish some teams, just cut up their defenses.


I agree strongly with the Bazemore part. We unearthed a steal with athleticism, ball handling and shooting ability from the Warriors' scrap heap and watched him walk right to Atlanta for $2 mil per season. As much as I like Henry, I'd rather have paid Bazemore than him and Nick Young.

Bazemore and Clarkson running in the 2nd unit would be a great combo, two ball hawks with speed and triple threat skill on offense.
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Re: Jordan Clarkson 

Post#147 » by NOODLESTYLE » Fri Sep 26, 2014 3:04 pm

Slava wrote:I think Filipinos prefer to be called pacific islanders and not Asians, tugs can correct me here.


That's more of a Filipino-American identity concept, but it depends on who you ask since there are Fil-Ams who have no problem being considered either. This wouldn't be such an issue if people recognized there's more about Asians beyond just "Chinese or Japanese".

But again, due to the history of the Philippines, there's going to be Filipinos that are mixed, ambiguous, or looks like another ethnicity.
A perfect example of that is even in the junior national teams:

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In the Philippines, there's not much of an issue with being part of the Asian label, especially considering that the Philippines is a part of many Asian themed events including the current 2014 Asia games. It's important to note that "Asia" is a very diverse continent, and not exclusive to East Asians, but it's generally how the term "Asian" is used in the USA and that's where the confusion starts. The differences between race/ethnicity/nationality aren't always understood nor agreed upon either, which can be seen on the GB. It's not as simple as "Black or White".

Jordan Clarkson might be more appealing to specifically Filipinos because of his heritage, but not necessarily to all Asians. I could see the Lakers/NBA marketing him for Filipino heritage nights. The identity topic is a lot deeper, but very off-topic for a basketball forum.

Nonetheless, Filipinos are very passionate about basketball, so naturally anyone that has the heritage will receive attention from the community.

To all the Filipino fans reading this, if you didn't know, there's a 6'5" top prospect from Canada. His name is Christian David and he's already receiving offers from Division 1 NCAA schools (Illinois, Baylor, Oregon and St Bonaventure) He's class of 2017 and was also part of Team Canada at this past summer's Adidas nations.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55ybMvLmiR0[/youtube]

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Re: Jordan Clarkson 

Post#148 » by NOODLESTYLE » Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:09 am

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZJlXG9Ftio[/youtube]

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