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Re: Around the NBA XI 

Post#1321 » by Beethoven » Thu Jun 3, 2021 5:00 pm

Kilroy wrote:What would it take to pry Beal away from the Wizzards? He would be about the perfect fit.

yeah watch him shoot a career low with us that just wont surprise me. Then we will be talking about how to unload this albatross. :lol:
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Post#1322 » by BEazy » Fri Jun 4, 2021 11:21 pm

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Post#1323 » by MAMBAEMD » Sat Jun 5, 2021 12:02 am

Kilroy wrote:What would it take to pry Beal away from the Wizzards? He would be about the perfect fit.


He would be a perfect fit but I don't think we have enough to get him.
Others have a lot more than we do.
I don't even think it would happen if he demanded a trade to the Lakers. The Wiz don't have to trade him to us or to anyone at all.
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Post#1324 » by Kilroy » Sat Jun 5, 2021 12:14 am

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I agree with Magic 100%. Not very often I agree with Magic.


Schroder only wants to come back because he knows no one else is going to pay him... He wants another shot to make a name for himself and knows the Lakers provide one of the biggest stages to do that... I don't really feel like he cares about the Lakers legacy.

And he did fail... He was supposed to be basically our 3rd guy and never really achieved that level of production... Not to mention he basically disappeared in the post season...
Despite the noise, I'd be surprised if we actually bring him back... S/T maybe, but he may have destroyed that option too...

I guess I could see him come back on a 1+1 contract with an option on the second year for cheap... But not for long term or real money.
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Post#1325 » by Eric Bieniemy » Sat Jun 5, 2021 1:33 am

Sign and trade Schroder?

What team would want Schroder for any substantial money?

He showed his ass this postseason.
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Post#1326 » by BEazy » Sat Jun 5, 2021 5:48 pm

I know it's a slim chance but if we get Damian Lillard, I will NEVER question Rob Pelinka again.
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Post#1327 » by JVL » Sun Jun 6, 2021 12:02 am

Harden seems to be out with a hamstring injury, what a cursed season. Don’t see the Nets getting past the Bucks now, can’t say I’m unhappy about it.
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Post#1328 » by LAKESHOW » Sun Jun 6, 2021 1:06 am

As it stands, with us out of the way, teams are playing with renewed vigor and excitement as they believe they all have a shot at the Title
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Post#1329 » by Kilroy » Sun Jun 6, 2021 2:01 am

ScHoolBoy B wrote:I know it's a slim chance but if we get Damian Lillard, I will NEVER question Rob Pelinka again.


Problem there, is he's 31 and heading into an extension that pays him around 45M/yr on average until '24...

His 3pt shooting is otherworldly when it's falling... But like was saw in the first round, when it isn't, he's pretty marginal. And he relies a lot on athleticism when his shot isn't falling. Which is bound to start going away soon...

Dame for the next couple years would be amazing, but if we're looking for a guy to pair with AD beyond LeBron's retirement, he aint it...

Same issue with Lowry, only maybe worse...
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Post#1330 » by lazybatman » Sun Jun 6, 2021 6:28 am

ScHoolBoy B wrote:I know it's a slim chance but if we get Damian Lillard, I will NEVER question Rob Pelinka again.

I don't think it's upto Rob or the Blazers. It's upto Dame. He sounds like a man who wants to give it one last shot rn. If & when he says he wants to go, I think they'll do right by him a'la Thunder-Westbrook to help him go where he wants.

Kilroy wrote:Problem there, is he's 31 and heading into an extension that pays him around 45M/yr on average until '24...

His 3pt shooting is otherworldly when it's falling... But like was saw in the first round, when it isn't, he's pretty marginal. And he relies a lot on athleticism when his shot isn't falling. Which is bound to start going away soon...

Dame for the next couple years would be amazing, but if we're looking for a guy to pair with AD beyond LeBron's retirement, he aint it...

Same issue with Lowry, only maybe worse...


If a transcendent talent like Dame comes, you roll the red carpets from Portland all the way to LA. It's a real chance at 2-3 chips in the next 3 years. That's not a flawed lineup like the Nets, we will be the favourites. We will have the two best clutch players ever + AD.

Idk what the freaking hell you're frankly worried about. I mean, this is like knowing the winning lottery number. If it's a possibility, you move heaven and earth to get him, not let these Danny Ainge spirits in your head take over. It's Dame Lillard ffs.. lmao.. can't believe I just read that.
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Post#1331 » by lazybatman » Sun Jun 6, 2021 7:35 am

Eric Bieniemy wrote:Sign and trade Schroder?

What team would want Schroder for any substantial money?

He showed his ass this postseason.

Short Answer - any dumbass team like the Hornets, Kings could fall in love with his hair and offer him the bag. Only takes 1 idiot to do idiotic things.

S&T isn't a great option, cos of the hard cap again, we don't really have much to say in what we're getting in return. We'll probably need to keep him till close to the deadline to trade him. Prolly gonna have to attach picks to get rid of him too.

Pelinka probably takes care of this in a super early meeting with Dennis and his reps.

- Offer him a tradable 15-18m contract(1/2+1 team option) with a take it or leave it NOW condition.
- Inform him that his decision either way(extension or Thank You, Goodbye) is going public before he leaves the building. That takes away this little rat's leverage and value across the league, once they know Lakers let him walk for nothing. He's probably not even getting an offer worth 10-12m in the open market after this season. Lonzo, Rossier, CP3(maybe), Lowry, Conley, Rivers, Reggie Jackson, Cam Payne(all had better seasons than him) also FAs this off season, where out of maybe 6-8 teams who have cap space, only 1-2 might need a PG. And none of them need a bench PG who costs that much.
- If he doesn't sign, be ready to announce TJ McConnel(poor scorer with similar shooting splits as Dennis, but a high IQ assist guy and a kickass defender) + Jordan McLaughlin(two way guy for Wolves - 10-8a-4r-2stl per 36 mins 48.5% fg & 36% 3fg. Excellent P&R guy and intelligent athletic defender(2 stls)). I'd move Caruso to the starter spot and shuffle THT & these guys around to find what sticks through the season. Really think some consistent playing time with Lebron + AD will be a huge step in their development.
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Post#1332 » by kblo247 » Sun Jun 6, 2021 10:33 am

ScHoolBoy B wrote:I know it's a slim chance but if we get Damian Lillard, I will NEVER question Rob Pelinka again.

You have a better chance at steph just because to not trade steph to wherever he wants would be seen as a pr nightmare from hell for the Warriors after the rings, finals run, and mvps


With dame I keep thinking he is going to go out like GP, try to be loyal to a team and then the team push him out like Seattle did Payton. Then I think he moves around
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Post#1333 » by Eric Bieniemy » Sun Jun 6, 2021 6:08 pm

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Eric Bieniemy wrote:Sign and trade Schroder?

What team would want Schroder for any substantial money?

He showed his ass this postseason.

Short Answer - any dumbass team like the Hornets, Kings could fall in love with his hair and offer him the bag. Only takes 1 idiot to do idiotic things.

S&T isn't a great option, cos of the hard cap again, we don't really have much to say in what we're getting in return. We'll probably need to keep him till close to the deadline to trade him. Prolly gonna have to attach picks to get rid of him too.

Pelinka probably takes care of this in a super early meeting with Dennis and his reps.

- Offer him a tradable 15-18m contract(1/2+1 team option) with a take it or leave it NOW condition.
- Inform him that his decision either way(extension or Thank You, Goodbye) is going public before he leaves the building. That takes away this little rat's leverage and value across the league, once they know Lakers let him walk for nothing. He's probably not even getting an offer worth 10-12m in the open market after this season. Lonzo, Rossier, CP3(maybe), Lowry, Conley, Rivers, Reggie Jackson, Cam Payne(all had better seasons than him) also FAs this off season, where out of maybe 6-8 teams who have cap space, only 1-2 might need a PG. And none of them need a bench PG who costs that much.
- If he doesn't sign, be ready to announce TJ McConnel(poor scorer with similar shooting splits as Dennis, but a high IQ assist guy and a kickass defender) + Jordan McLaughlin(two way guy for Wolves - 10-8a-4r-2stl per 36 mins 48.5% fg & 36% 3fg. Excellent P&R guy and intelligent athletic defender(2 stls)). I'd move Caruso to the starter spot and shuffle THT & these guys around to find what sticks through the season. Really think some consistent playing time with Lebron + AD will be a huge step in their development.

Good post here. What about Rose though? Don't the Lakers have another MLE? that first option you gave of signing Schroder to 15 mill just to trade him sounds like a very bad idea. The book is out on him. He will always be chasing the last season he had in OKC. He will never be better than that, and he may never match it again.
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Post#1334 » by JVL » Sun Jun 6, 2021 7:59 pm

LAKESHOW wrote:As it stands, with us out of the way, teams are playing with renewed vigor and excitement as they believe they all have a shot at the Title


Yeah these teams are hungry and I like it. Wish we played with that much energy.
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Post#1335 » by IceManBK1 » Sun Jun 6, 2021 10:48 pm

Sign and trade Schroder, THJ, and Kuzma to timberwolves for Dlo. I was a dlo fan when he was a Lakers. I think he and AD would form a nice Duo after lebron retires. I mean, they're both around the same age right. Pick and Roll b/w Dlo and AD would be lethal. Having a guy like KCP to guard other team's better guards will help hide dlo's so so defense at best when he tries.
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Re: Around the NBA XI 

Post#1336 » by Kilroy » Sun Jun 6, 2021 10:48 pm

Doncic can't get out of the first round again after basically being in control... How long until he's demanding a trade? Porzingis ain't it and I can't imagine anyone wants him... Although even if he did want a trade, no way does Cuban send him to us, even if we included AD... Have to wait until free agency, so maybe it's better for us to roll with the talent we have for a couple more seasons...
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Post#1337 » by lazybatman » Sun Jun 6, 2021 10:59 pm

Eric Bieniemy wrote:Good post here. What about Rose though? Don't the Lakers have another MLE? that first option you gave of signing Schroder to 15 mill just to trade him sounds like a very bad idea. The book is out on him. He will always be chasing the last season he had in OKC. He will never be better than that, and he may never match it again.


Thanks bud.

Rose doesn't look like he's going anywhere after the season he's had in NY, with Thibbs. He's also complained about the mental troubles of playing with Lebron in the past. I'm most focused on developing AC/THT too, so I really don't care to bring another dominant ball handler, unless it's a guaranteed upgrade.

An MLE or S&T basically locks us into the hard cap again this year. That makes it like 300% harder to pull of a big trade if one comes around later in the season, if you have to match exact salaries. Having that flexibility is the equivalent of Lebron playing the Suns series @ 100%. That's why keeping Dennis & Trez till that deadline date, till they become tradable is the only organic solution to the problem(Trez actually might be immediately tradable if he picks up that option - still better to keep his salary in the bank, if a big name becomes available). It also gives us time to scout around for the best fits.

I also still believe neither of them are bad players, and if we install some nice sets / a good PG to unburden them / play P&R with Trez, we can make them look good enough again for some idiot to bite. The NBA memory is that of a fish. Nobody cares what happened 6 months ago. The only cardinal sin would be to sign Dennis to a ridiculous 20m+ number, where we need too attach young players and picks to just get rid of him like Mozgov & Deng.

That said, I'll abandon all that thought in a second and do Dennis S&T if a slam dunk opportunity like Lonzo / Brogdon / CP3 comes up. We just neeeeeed playmaking more than shooters.
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Post#1338 » by lazybatman » Mon Jun 7, 2021 1:04 am

IceManBK1 wrote:Sign and trade Schroder, THJ, and Kuzma to timberwolves for Dlo. I was a dlo fan when he was a Lakers. I think he and AD would form a nice Duo after lebron retires. I mean, they're both around the same age right. Pick and Roll b/w Dlo and AD would be lethal. Having a guy like KCP to guard other team's better guards will help hide dlo's so so defense at best when he tries.

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Post#1339 » by LAKESHOW » Tue Jun 8, 2021 12:14 am

Cmon. The Bucks must make an accounting of themselves. Its early 2nd game, I believe they'll make a comeback. But dayyuum, the Nets are making it look too easy thus far.
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Post#1340 » by Slava » Tue Jun 8, 2021 9:55 am

The hard truth of the NBA stays the same. The team with a superstar wing and the best performing supporting cast wins. The multiple time champions over the last 4 decades have all had Bird & Magic, Jordan, Kobe, LeBron and KD.
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