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Re: season trades 

Post#141 » by danfantastk32 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 6:40 am

SlimShady83 wrote:AD to the Bulls trades below.

Trade 1) AD for Lavine works straight up and of course we want what 3 pics In return right???

Trade 2) Vucevic and Lonzo for AD + we get 3 pics back?

Trade 3) Lonzo, Giddey, Coby FOR AD + we get 3 pics back

Trade 4) Ayo, Lonzo, Coby FOR AD + we get 3 pics back

Ok that's It for now LOL, so which trade Y'all want? :lol:


Whatever trade gets us 3 picks, I'm down with. I assume if they get AD, they'd prob want to keep Lavine now. But I don't care. I'll take whatever gets us 3 picks. I think OKC would be a good trade partner as well. And they'd be title favorites the second they got AD. Could prob win 2 or 3 titles with him. That would maybe entice him to go there, and they have alot of picks, and young players.
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Re: season trades 

Post#142 » by SlimShady83 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 6:42 am

If It makes Bron mad and he wants out then I'm all for It, but I know It's not happening :lol: at least not until after Bron, but I would like It If It means getting Bron to retire or leave early, don't want another year of Bron
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Re: season trades 

Post#143 » by SlimShady83 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 6:47 am

Oh BTW even If you do trade for AD with any of the trades you can still go get Kessler/Sexton and Richards Let's go Lakers, hope someone close to Lakers seeing this LOL ...

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Re: season trades 

Post#144 » by SlimShady83 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 7:14 am

danfantastk32 wrote:Whatever trade gets us 3 picks, I'm down with. I assume if they get AD, they'd prob want to keep Lavine now. But I don't care. I'll take whatever gets us 3 picks. I think OKC would be a good trade partner as well. And they'd be title favorites the second they got AD. Could prob win 2 or 3 titles with him. That would maybe entice him to go there, and they have alot of picks, and young players.


Once again need OKC names :lol:
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Re: season trades 

Post#145 » by DanishLakerFan » Fri Dec 6, 2024 11:47 am

SlimShady83 wrote:AD to the Bulls trades below.

Trade 1) AD for Lavine works straight up and of course we want what 3 pics In return right???

Trade 2) Vucevic and Lonzo for AD + we get 3 pics back?

Trade 3) Lonzo, Giddey, Coby FOR AD + we get 3 pics back

Trade 4) Ayo, Lonzo, Coby FOR AD + we get 3 pics back

Ok that's It for now LOL, so which trade Y'all want? :lol:


STAY OFF THE SAUCE!!!

D'Lo+filler+ 2nd rounder(s) for Lonzo (He's leaving anyway. They should tank).
JHS and a 1st for Kessler (a 1st post-lebron/AD is worth a lot).
Gabe, Max and 1st for Dorian Finney-Smith (Same money, they gamble on Max's upside and the 1st being good)
Rui + picks for CP3 (Rui is a solid fit with Wemby and CP3 isn't staying)

CP3 - Lonzo - DFS - Lebron - AD
Reaves - Knecht - Vando - Kessler
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Re: season trades 

Post#146 » by tamaraw08 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 3:20 pm

danfantastk32 wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:AD to the Bulls trades below.

Trade 1) AD for Lavine works straight up and of course we want what 3 pics In return right???

Trade 2) Vucevic and Lonzo for AD + we get 3 pics back?

Trade 3) Lonzo, Giddey, Coby FOR AD + we get 3 pics back

Trade 4) Ayo, Lonzo, Coby FOR AD + we get 3 pics back

Ok that's It for now LOL, so which trade Y'all want? :lol:


Whatever trade gets us 3 picks, I'm down with. I assume if they get AD, they'd prob want to keep Lavine now. But I don't care. I'll take whatever gets us 3 picks. I think OKC would be a good trade partner as well. And they'd be title favorites the second they got AD. Could prob win 2 or 3 titles with him. That would maybe entice him to go there, and they have alot of picks, and young players.


If OKC would only offer their own picks, then I would say no, unless they give Chet because this team would be so good for at least 5 years so those picks would be at the bottom 3-4 in the first round. But I really like Wiggins and Joe though...
I like Matas Buzelis from the Bulls.
The point is, I still want this team to have some good rising players and not just picks and just swim in filth for the next 3-5 years.
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Re: season trades 

Post#147 » by danfantastk32 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 3:42 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:
danfantastk32 wrote:Whatever trade gets us 3 picks, I'm down with. I assume if they get AD, they'd prob want to keep Lavine now. But I don't care. I'll take whatever gets us 3 picks. I think OKC would be a good trade partner as well. And they'd be title favorites the second they got AD. Could prob win 2 or 3 titles with him. That would maybe entice him to go there, and they have alot of picks, and young players.


Once again need OKC names :lol:


2025 Miami's protected 1-14
2025 OKC's Unprotected - Has right to swap with either LAC or Houston
2027 Denver's protected 1- 5
2026 GSW's 2nd rounder

Some good names if you ask me!


BTW.....OK would still have Phi (protected 1-6) and Utah's (protected 1- 14) first round picks in 2025. They have 4 effin first round picks coming to them!!! 3 first round picks in 27. 2 picks in 28. and 2 picks in 29. And that doesn't even count the 10 or so extra 2nd-rounders they have coming to them in that period.

OKC's NBA record last 8 or so years:
2023-24 - 57-25 - Lost Conf. Semifinals
2022-23 - 40-42
2021-22 - 24-58
2020-21 - 22-50
2019-20 - 44-28 - Lost 1st Round
2018-19 - 49-33 - Lost 1st Round
2017-18 - 48-34 - Lost 1st Round
2016-17 - 47-35 - Lost 1st Round
2015-16 - 55-27 - Lost Conf. Finals

Look at that! 2016-17 through 2018-19 they lost in first round (going nowhere) then they went into rebuild in 2019-2020 (although they got CP3 who willed them into postseason...but they moved him). And then look!!!! 3 years of missing the playoffs.....rebuilding. And then they make the damn semifinals. Your looking at a team poised to make the finals this year, possibly, with 4 #1 picks in their chamber for 2025 draft....one can be a swap, no less! I mean come on!!!

Why are we just circling the toilet year after year??!!! And people wanna keep doing this till Lebron retires cause "You don't trade a player as good as AD" ?? Makes no sense. This rebuild doesn't have to take a decade. OKC just proved it!

Every day we wait though.....more miles on AD. Less value. More chance for injury. We've been fools to wait this long.
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Re: season trades 

Post#148 » by danfantastk32 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 3:57 pm

DanishLakerFan wrote:
STAY OFF THE SAUCE!!!

D'Lo+filler+ 2nd rounder(s) for Lonzo (He's leaving anyway. They should tank).
JHS and a 1st for Kessler (a 1st post-lebron/AD is worth a lot).
Gabe, Max and 1st for Dorian Finney-Smith (Same money, they gamble on Max's upside and the 1st being good)
Rui + picks for CP3 (Rui is a solid fit with Wemby and CP3 isn't staying)

CP3 - Lonzo - DFS - Lebron - AD
Reaves - Knecht - Vando - Kessler


Stay off the sauce? Dude....your idea would cripple this team for a decade. Lonzo can't play more than 10 games without needing major reconstructive surgery. Kessler is decent....but nothing special. Finney-Smith is certainly nothing special....I mean 10 points and 4 rebound a game in 28minutes??? And CP3 is like 3 months younger than Lebron! We gonna trade for him, so we can do his farewell tour the rest of the year???

Your gonna throw away at least two first round picks, and a 2nd rounder (you say Rui + Picks for CP3...so whatever that means) for that heap of trash?? Jesus dude....a Celtics fan wouldn't have been that cruel to us.
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Re: season trades 

Post#149 » by JKiddy » Fri Dec 6, 2024 4:11 pm

DanishLakerFan wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:AD to the Bulls trades below.

Trade 1) AD for Lavine works straight up and of course we want what 3 pics In return right???

Trade 2) Vucevic and Lonzo for AD + we get 3 pics back?

Trade 3) Lonzo, Giddey, Coby FOR AD + we get 3 pics back

Trade 4) Ayo, Lonzo, Coby FOR AD + we get 3 pics back

Ok that's It for now LOL, so which trade Y'all want? :lol:


STAY OFF THE SAUCE!!!

D'Lo+filler+ 2nd rounder(s) for Lonzo (He's leaving anyway. They should tank).
JHS and a 1st for Kessler (a 1st post-lebron/AD is worth a lot).
Gabe, Max and 1st for Dorian Finney-Smith (Same money, they gamble on Max's upside and the 1st being good)
Rui + picks for CP3 (Rui is a solid fit with Wemby and CP3 isn't staying)

CP3 - Lonzo - DFS - Lebron - AD
Reaves - Knecht - Vando - Kessler


This might actually work. This is the first post that is over 50% possible and intelligent at the same time.
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Re: season trades 

Post#150 » by danfantastk32 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 4:17 pm

tamaraw08 wrote: The point is, I still want this team to have some good rising players and not just picks and just swim in filth for the next 3-5 years.


I hear it.....but we're not all masters of our destiny. AD is gonna command what AD is worth. And while he's on top now, the question becomes "how much longer" ? He'll be 32 next offseason.

Other teams have the internet too. They'll know about AD's injury history. His "lingering foot issue". A big man turning 32 prob doesn't have a ton left in him. Can you guarantee 2 years? 3? 4? How many picks and "good rising players" are you really willing to part with?

I like OKC because they have sooooo much house money to play with here. They also had a team for a decade that couldn't quite make it to the top. They are a team that I think would be willing to go a little heavy just to stack the odds...and finally get a title. If I'm OKC, I look at AD and I think that we should be able to get 2 titles in 3 years with him. That's some serious value....but hell....they might win the title as is...and with 4 freakin picks next year to boot!

So we can't just play "I want this guy, and that guy, and that guy" (even though I just did, admittedly 2 posts up).

What we'd prob get for AD is salary coming back....hopefully a couple decent young players in there...and 2 picks. Would be my guess. Surely they have someone on their squad not pulling their weight, financially....and a couple guys who look good, but are behind better players in the pecking order.

If we could then move DLo's expiring to a team that's desperate to clear salary for their 3-year stinker contract, and get a pick back for that. If Lebron could be swayed to goto GSW....maybe a pick there. I mean, our options aren't so great. We really shoulda done this a couple offseasons ago. But whatever we get....it will help, and it's better than slowly circling the drain like we are now.
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Re: season trades 

Post#151 » by JKiddy » Fri Dec 6, 2024 4:29 pm

If I am in charge of LAL I call the Bulls and see what Lavine's price is today. I call BK and ask about DFS, Schroder, and CamJo. I circle back to MIN with a feeler call and see if LAL departs with AD and a pick or two would Ant-man be available (likely not). But, I would make those calls today and then come back to see what you could work with.

Then, if DFS plus Schroder is 1 1st and Lavine is a 1st, solid player not named AD, and 2 2nds I would see if the team leftover could contend. If not, I do not make the deals unless you can get Ball on the cheap if he is not going to be a Hornet.

I think this makes the most sense. CamJo, Cam Thomas, Anthony Edwards, Jimmy Butler, Zion, etc. are likely too expensive or not worth it today due to the immediate needs of LAL.
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Re: season trades 

Post#152 » by tamaraw08 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 4:46 pm

JKiddy wrote:
DanishLakerFan wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:AD to the Bulls trades below.

Trade 1) AD for Lavine works straight up and of course we want what 3 pics In return right???

Trade 2) Vucevic and Lonzo for AD + we get 3 pics back?

Trade 3) Lonzo, Giddey, Coby FOR AD + we get 3 pics back

Trade 4) Ayo, Lonzo, Coby FOR AD + we get 3 pics back

Ok that's It for now LOL, so which trade Y'all want? :lol:


STAY OFF THE SAUCE!!!

D'Lo+filler+ 2nd rounder(s) for Lonzo (He's leaving anyway. They should tank).
JHS and a 1st for Kessler (a 1st post-lebron/AD is worth a lot).
Gabe, Max and 1st for Dorian Finney-Smith (Same money, they gamble on Max's upside and the 1st being good)
Rui + picks for CP3 (Rui is a solid fit with Wemby and CP3 isn't staying)

CP3 - Lonzo - DFS - Lebron - AD
Reaves - Knecht - Vando - Kessler


This might actually work. This is the first post that is over 50% possible and intelligent at the same time.


I am confused why Lonzo's name kept popping up when the guy has only played 6 out of 23 possible games this season. His last game, he played he had 5 pts/2 assists in 13 mins,
the game before that, scored 2pts at 25FG%. :roll:
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Re: season trades 

Post#153 » by JKiddy » Fri Dec 6, 2024 5:20 pm

I think it would be to get him on the cheap in hopes that he can return to 85% of his peak by the playoffs which is possible. The other reason is that you can likely get him for pennies on the dollar as opposed to other players.
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Re: season trades 

Post#154 » by tamaraw08 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 7:03 pm

danfantastk32 wrote:
tamaraw08 wrote: The point is, I still want this team to have some good rising players and not just picks and just swim in filth for the next 3-5 years.



I like OKC because they have sooooo much house money to play with here. They also had a team for a decade that couldn't quite make it to the top. They are a team that I think would be willing to go a little heavy just to stack the odds...and finally get a title. If I'm OKC, I look at AD and I think that we should be able to get 2 titles in 3 years with him. That's some serious value....but hell....they might win the title as is...and with 4 freakin picks next year to boot!

So we can't just play "I want this guy, and that guy, and that guy" (even though I just did, admittedly 2 posts up).

What we'd prob get for AD is salary coming back....hopefully a couple decent young players in there...and 2 picks. Would be my guess. Surely they have someone on their squad not pulling their weight, financially....and a couple guys who look good, but are behind better players in the pecking order.

If we could then move DLo's expiring to a team that's desperate to clear salary for their 3-year stinker contract, and get a pick back for that. If Lebron could be swayed to goto GSW....maybe a pick there. I mean, our options aren't so great. We really shoulda done this a couple offseasons ago. But whatever we get....it will help, and it's better than slowly circling the drain like we are now.


Like I said, I just don't like OKC's own picks (probably bottom 5 the next 5 years) esp if they have waay more than that to offer.
I don't expect them to offer Chet and bec salaries had to match, I don't mind getting Hartenstein and Dort for 3 years, hopefully either Joe and/or Wiggins.
Their GM Sam Presti is so sleek and cunning. I can't believe he was able to get a very good defender and good enough shooter (career 37% from 3) for a player who was a liability on their playoff run with NO PICKS attached.
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Re: season trades 

Post#155 » by SlimShady83 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 7:53 pm

danfantastk32 wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:
danfantastk32 wrote:Whatever trade gets us 3 picks, I'm down with. I assume if they get AD, they'd prob want to keep Lavine now. But I don't care. I'll take whatever gets us 3 picks. I think OKC would be a good trade partner as well. And they'd be title favorites the second they got AD. Could prob win 2 or 3 titles with him. That would maybe entice him to go there, and they have alot of picks, and young players.


Once again need OKC names :lol:


2025 Miami's protected 1-14
2025 OKC's Unprotected - Has right to swap with either LAC or Houston
2027 Denver's protected 1- 5
2026 GSW's 2nd rounder


Last time I checked you can't just trade a player JUST for pics, If you trade a player to a team, salary matching has to work, could be wrong but last time I checked you have to do salary matching and then pics? Correct me If I'm wrong. That's at least what I thought
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Re: season trades 

Post#156 » by SlimShady83 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 7:54 pm

BTW It's 7am now, I got up at 5am even when drinking the night b4 I still get up early, only good thing Is I can go back to bed If need haha.
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Re: season trades 

Post#157 » by SlimShady83 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 7:57 pm

tamaraw08 wrote:
JKiddy wrote:
DanishLakerFan wrote:
STAY OFF THE SAUCE!!!

D'Lo+filler+ 2nd rounder(s) for Lonzo (He's leaving anyway. They should tank).
JHS and a 1st for Kessler (a 1st post-lebron/AD is worth a lot).
Gabe, Max and 1st for Dorian Finney-Smith (Same money, they gamble on Max's upside and the 1st being good)
Rui + picks for CP3 (Rui is a solid fit with Wemby and CP3 isn't staying)

CP3 - Lonzo - DFS - Lebron - AD
Reaves - Knecht - Vando - Kessler


This might actually work. This is the first post that is over 50% possible and intelligent at the same time.


I am confused why Lonzo's name kept popping up when the guy has only played 6 out of 23 possible games this season. His last game, he played he had 5 pts/2 assists in 13 mins,
the game before that, scored 2pts at 25FG%. :roll:


They wanted to trade AD to the Bulls, so I said last night when drinking, I'll see If I can get some trades going to the Bulls that will bring us pics and as far I know (could be wrong) you can't just trade a player to a team for pics by them selves has to be salary matching so came up with those trades haha ... Edit maybe you can and the pics actually count as salary matching? I'm not sure thought you had a to include players for player then pics along the way?
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Re: season trades 

Post#158 » by JKiddy » Fri Dec 6, 2024 8:11 pm

What do you think LeBron's trade value is now if LAL just decides to blow it all up now and trade the entire team for a rebuild around one new younger star and some key role players and gain as many draft picks as possible so they can renew the entire franchise to compete again in 2028/29?
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Re: season trades 

Post#159 » by SlimShady83 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 8:19 pm

DanishLakerFan wrote:STAY OFF THE SAUCE!!!

JHS and a 1st for Kessler (a 1st post-lebron/AD is worth a lot).


1) don't tell someone to stay off the sauce when they're drinking, they'll just keep on drinking :lol: Luckily for me didn't see this post till now, morning. I know when to stop as I don't go overboard.

2) I've said this trade b4 many times, but also said many times b4 that Utah want 2 pics for Kessler even by himself.

Kessler by himself Is not worth 2 pics ... But If you Include Sexton then DLO as you said Is leaving anyway, you get something back for him.

DLO/JHS 2 pics for Kessler/Sexton gets the job done but I think Utah also want an extra spot so they can have an open roster spot so you throw In someone like Lewis, who Lakers never play anyway -can't remember who said that?

Get a solid bigman for the next 10 + years who replace Zubac to which who we all miss and love.
Get a solid PG/SG who Is at least consistent with his production for what his worth $18mil.

Are they going to win you a championship? who knows? But It's a solid starting block to build around.

And you can still go get Richards for Hayes 2 2nd's :nod:
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Re: season trades 

Post#160 » by tamaraw08 » Fri Dec 6, 2024 9:54 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:
tamaraw08 wrote:
JKiddy wrote:
This might actually work. This is the first post that is over 50% possible and intelligent at the same time.


I am confused why Lonzo's name kept popping up when the guy has only played 6 out of 23 possible games this season. His last game, he played he had 5 pts/2 assists in 13 mins,
the game before that, scored 2pts at 25FG%. :roll:


They wanted to trade AD to the Bulls, so I said last night when drinking, I'll see If I can get some trades going to the Bulls that will bring us pics and as far I know (could be wrong) you can't just trade a player to a team for pics by them selves has to be salary matching so came up with those trades haha ... Edit maybe you can and the pics actually count as salary matching? I'm not sure thought you had a to include players for player then pics along the way?


I'll take anybody but Lonzo, including the ball boys and their girlfriends. :banghead:
I'll take Vucevic, I like Coby White and Ayo, heck even Patrick Williams and Giddey, anybody!!!! well except THT.
The only reason why Lonzo is trying to play a couple of games is because his contract is expiring and he's hoping there's a sucker GM there would bite...maybe if he can play for the Heat for a few games, then Rob would sign him. :roll:
I guess I was traumatized when I spent hard earned money to watch him play for the Lakers then boom, he was out for a bum shoulder or something. :noway:

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