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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#241 » by DanishLakerFan » Wed Jun 28, 2023 4:58 am

tugs wrote:What are the implications again if the team option on JV was not picked up?


He'd be a FA.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#242 » by tugs » Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:23 am

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tugs wrote:What are the implications again if the team option on JV was not picked up?


He'd be a FA.
But in terms of re-signing the likes of AR and Rui? Could LA offer more if they allowed JV to be an FA?

Also, was it an option to allow JV to be a UFA, re-sign him long term at a lower salary first year then eventually increase over time?
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#243 » by DanishLakerFan » Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:52 am

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tugs wrote:What are the implications again if the team option on JV was not picked up?


He'd be a FA.
But in terms of re-signing the likes of AR and Rui? Could LA offer more if they allowed JV to be an FA?

Also, was it an option to allow JV to be a UFA, re-sign him long term at a lower salary first year then eventually increase over time?


No, i dont think so.

Lakers can match any offer for those guys.

Reaves is an early bird free agent so there is a limit to what the Lakers can offer, but they can still match other offers.
Rui is a restricted free agent, so they can match whatever offer.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#244 » by Syko_boB » Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:38 pm

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Free Agency begins Friday

Latest rumors from The Athletic indicate Rob & Bighead wanna run it back and have DLo, Lonnie & Dennis return, while looking for small improvements around the same core
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#245 » by ROballer » Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:55 pm

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Free Agency begins Friday

Latest rumors from The Athletic indicate Rob & Bighead wanna run it back and have DLo, Lonnie & Dennis return, while looking for small improvements around the same core
That would be uther BS.

Why spend a mid 1st on a PG you plan on keeping....while filling the roster with a gazillion other guards?

We really gonna Pippen Jr. this new guy?
We had other glaring needs we could have adressed either with that pick or trading it.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#246 » by Danny Darko » Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:21 pm

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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#247 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:40 pm

Free agency in 3 days. Here is my prediction (many of you are going to be bored by this offseason I’m sure)

I think you will see…

A Reaves matched FA signing 4 for 98
Rui H 3 for 48 (PO on final year)
D Russell 2 for 40
Lonnie W 3 for 28 (PO final year)

(Schroeder, Beasley and Bamba gone)

MLE: Trey Lyles 2 for 11

Vet Mins: Paul Reed, Stanley Johnson, Svi, John Wall


Starters (Backup)

AD (Lyles)
LBJ (Vanderbilt)
Rui (Vanderbilt)
Reaves (Walker)
Russell (Wall or Reaves)

Depth

JHS
Christie
Reed
Johnson
Svi
Lewis

Salary 171.3 million

(Cap is 136 million, Luxury Tax is 165 million)

Lakers are in the repeater tax this year so keeping the tax bill lower will be a priority to start the year at least.

They may keep Bamba if they don't mind the tax bill because hes a moveable expiring contract. Tax on keeping him alone may be close to 30 million however. I'm sure the Lakers will have a hard time justifying hes worth it.

Christie and JHS will be given an opportunity to play into minutes throughout the year. Would not surprise me if either crack the rotation sooner than later.

Lakers will have tradeable contracts at the deadline if they deem it worth acquiring more help at that point. Bamba's deal would be a huge bonus to have around in that scenario as well.

Players like Lyles, Reed and Stanley Johnson would give us needed increased size and defensive options.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#248 » by Danny Darko » Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:10 pm

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Free agency in 3 days. Here is my prediction (many of you are going to be bored by this offseason I’m sure)

I think you will see…

A Reaves matched FA signing 4 for 98
Rui H 3 for 48 (PO on final year)
D Russell 2 for 40
Lonnie W 3 for 28 (PO final year)

(Schroeder, Beasley and Bamba gone)

MLE: Trey Lyles 2 for 11

Vet Mins: Paul Reed, Stanley Johnson, Svi, John Wall


Starters (Backup)

AD (Lyles)
LBJ (Vanderbilt)
Rui (Vanderbilt)
Reaves (Walker)
Russell (Wall or Reaves)

Depth

JHS
Christie
Reed
Johnson
Svi
Lewis

Salary 171.3 million

(Cap is 136 million, Luxury Tax is 165 million)

Lakers are in the repeater tax this year so keeping the tax bill lower will be a priority to start the year at least.

They may keep Bamba if they don't mind the tax bill because hes a moveable expiring contract. Tax on keeping him alone may be close to 30 million however. I'm sure the Lakers will have a hard time justifying hes worth it.

Christie and JHS will be given an opportunity to play into minutes throughout the year. Would not surprise me if either crack the rotation sooner than later.

Lakers will have tradeable contracts at the deadline if they deem it worth acquiring more help at that point. Bamba's deal would be a huge bonus to have around in that scenario as well.

Players like Lyles, Reed and Stanley Johnson would give us needed increased size and defensive options.



Still holding out for Brook Lopez / Ham reunion... we need that size to compete.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#249 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:33 pm

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hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Free agency in 3 days. Here is my prediction (many of you are going to be bored by this offseason I’m sure)

I think you will see…

A Reaves matched FA signing 4 for 98
Rui H 3 for 48 (PO on final year)
D Russell 2 for 40
Lonnie W 3 for 28 (PO final year)

(Schroeder, Beasley and Bamba gone)

MLE: Trey Lyles 2 for 11

Vet Mins: Paul Reed, Stanley Johnson, Svi, John Wall


Starters (Backup)

AD (Lyles)
LBJ (Vanderbilt)
Rui (Vanderbilt)
Reaves (Walker)
Russell (Wall or Reaves)

Depth

JHS
Christie
Reed
Johnson
Svi
Lewis

Salary 171.3 million

(Cap is 136 million, Luxury Tax is 165 million)

Lakers are in the repeater tax this year so keeping the tax bill lower will be a priority to start the year at least.

They may keep Bamba if they don't mind the tax bill because hes a moveable expiring contract. Tax on keeping him alone may be close to 30 million however. I'm sure the Lakers will have a hard time justifying hes worth it.

Christie and JHS will be given an opportunity to play into minutes throughout the year. Would not surprise me if either crack the rotation sooner than later.

Lakers will have tradeable contracts at the deadline if they deem it worth acquiring more help at that point. Bamba's deal would be a huge bonus to have around in that scenario as well.

Players like Lyles, Reed and Stanley Johnson would give us needed increased size and defensive options.



Still holding out for Brook Lopez / Ham reunion... we need that size to compete.


He might take the full MLE but he isn’t going to take the tax payer mle
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#250 » by The Hypnotoad » Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:49 pm

Question about reeves match. Can a team offering him a contract start at 12 mil for first two years then escalate to 35, 35 for last two years as the lakers match would break it out? Or would they have to offer a 4/98m contract in more equivalent pieces? Because I think it’s pretty unfair if a team with only 12 mil in capspace can make him an offer starting at 12 but escalating that much. I thought “poison pill” contracts were removed.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#251 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:49 pm

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
Danny Darko wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Free agency in 3 days. Here is my prediction (many of you are going to be bored by this offseason I’m sure)

I think you will see…

A Reaves matched FA signing 4 for 98
Rui H 3 for 48 (PO on final year)
D Russell 2 for 40
Lonnie W 3 for 28 (PO final year)

(Schroeder, Beasley and Bamba gone)

MLE: Trey Lyles 2 for 11

Vet Mins: Paul Reed, Stanley Johnson, Svi, John Wall


Starters (Backup)

AD (Lyles)
LBJ (Vanderbilt)
Rui (Vanderbilt)
Reaves (Walker)
Russell (Wall or Reaves)

Depth

JHS
Christie
Reed
Johnson
Svi
Lewis

Salary 171.3 million

(Cap is 136 million, Luxury Tax is 165 million)

Lakers are in the repeater tax this year so keeping the tax bill lower will be a priority to start the year at least.

They may keep Bamba if they don't mind the tax bill because hes a moveable expiring contract. Tax on keeping him alone may be close to 30 million however. I'm sure the Lakers will have a hard time justifying hes worth it.

Christie and JHS will be given an opportunity to play into minutes throughout the year. Would not surprise me if either crack the rotation sooner than later.

Lakers will have tradeable contracts at the deadline if they deem it worth acquiring more help at that point. Bamba's deal would be a huge bonus to have around in that scenario as well.

Players like Lyles, Reed and Stanley Johnson would give us needed increased size and defensive options.



Still holding out for Brook Lopez / Ham reunion... we need that size to compete.


He might take the full MLE but he isn’t going to take the tax payer mle


Vuc just now getting 20 million per makes it really hard for Lopez to take much of a discount coming off the year he had.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#252 » by Showtime:Part2 » Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:23 pm

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Free Agency begins Friday

Latest rumors from The Athletic indicate Rob & Bighead wanna run it back and have DLo, Lonnie & Dennis return, while looking for small improvements around the same core
That would be uther BS.

Why spend a mid 1st on a PG you plan on keeping....while filling the roster with a gazillion other guards?

We really gonna Pippen Jr. this new guy?
We had other glaring needs we could have adressed either with that pick or trading it.



Yup time to panic
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#253 » by Showtime:Part2 » Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:25 pm

I’m praying dlo is 20/yr or lower otherwise boooooooo (or max 25/yr but only 2 years)
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Prince + filler for Kobe Bryant

To be honest the way Prince has played and with Kobes injury/age/mileage Im not sure I would do that deal either. Still Prince is more important and he wins the head to head battles with Kobe.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#254 » by Showtime:Part2 » Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:39 pm

The notion that we need to sign Beasley for 15 mill as a trade chip is just so flawed. This only applied to teams who have a boatload of picks to trade for star players. We have like 1 or 2 tradeable firsts lol. Get that bum out of here and give my boy max Christie minutes
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Prince + filler for Kobe Bryant

To be honest the way Prince has played and with Kobes injury/age/mileage Im not sure I would do that deal either. Still Prince is more important and he wins the head to head battles with Kobe.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#255 » by TylersLakers » Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:10 pm

Showtime:Part2 wrote:The notion that we need to sign Beasley for 15 mill as a trade chip is just so flawed. This only applied to teams who have a boatload of picks to trade for star players. We have like 1 or 2 tradeable firsts lol. Get that bum out of here and give my boy max Christie minutes


With Beasley, it'd be irresponsible to keep his contract at almost $17M. It'd also be irresponsible to let him walk for nothing.

They need to come to terms on a team-friendly deal or find a trade for him. I would aim for a 2 year, 20M if I couldn't trade him.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#256 » by TylersLakers » Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:24 pm

tugs wrote:
DanishLakerFan wrote:
tugs wrote:What are the implications again if the team option on JV was not picked up?


He'd be a FA.
But in terms of re-signing the likes of AR and Rui? Could LA offer more if they allowed JV to be an FA?

Also, was it an option to allow JV to be a UFA, re-sign him long term at a lower salary first year then eventually increase over time?


No, it doesn't really matter. JV's salary is only $4.7M - If they would've let him walk, there's avenues where if the Lakers renounced Beasley, D-Lo and Bamba, they'd have 19-25M in cap space (depending on Rui).

Austin is locked into 12.2M next year because of the Gilbert Arenas rule.

Rui's a different story. We have full bird rights. Most cap experts have him pegged at around $12M - $15M in salary. We can offer that regardless of Vando's salary.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#257 » by Syko_boB » Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:43 pm

First tax apron is $170m

We are currently at $100m with

LeBron / AD / Vando / Fino / Max / Max

If we waive Bamba & decline Beas tomo, we'll have $70m in space

- 12.5 MLE signing
- 5m BAE
- 12.5 Reaves max 1st year
- 20 Rui 1st year (assuming worst, but not far off what we expect at 17/18 first year)

$20M left to re-sign our guys

- $10M Schroder / $8M Lonnie hopefully on 1 year deals

Or we could try DLo for around $20

Keep in mind Vando is eligible for his extension now and Christie is a RFA next year

But thats 12 on the roster

Pick 1-2 vet mins and get to work

Also who are the MLE/BAE guys and are they worth losing DLo and others
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#258 » by Kilroy » Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:13 am

I'd still S/T Dlo for S/T Kyrie... If we're not trading LeBron, we might as well take the risk, and Kyrie was more consistent than Dlo this season.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#259 » by LAKESHOW » Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:28 am

We will pay dearly if we re sign DLo.
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Re: Lakers offseason 2023 

Post#260 » by Lakers24gm » Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:07 am

OK here is my dream scenerio.

PG- D'Angelo Russell (2 year deal starting at 17 mil) - Jalen Hood Scfinino - Aaron Holiday (Min contract)

SG- Austin Reaves (12.4 Arenas Limited matched) - Max Christie - Ty Jerome (Min contract)

SF- Bruce Brown (4 year MLE 12.4 starting 53 Million total) - Jarred Vanderbilt - Maxwell Lewis

PF- Lebron James - Rui Hachimura (1 plus one starting out 15 mil player option) - Oshae Brissett (Min contract)

C- Anthony Davis - Christian Wood (4.5 mil BAE) - Tristan Thompson (Min contract)

Ok go ahead and bash away!!!

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