2020 Trade Deadline Thread - Lets Go!

[kblo247]

Deadline over

Looks like Lakers stood pat...
Disappointing. This team needed something.

I can’t even remember the last time the Lakers made a savvy trade...

Steve Blake for bazemore?

That was savvy? They never got anything for him and Bazemore left them, pissed off and insulted by the way to the point he wouldn’t negotiate years later

[thebigbird]

It doesn’t matter who defends George tbh as he can go ghost in the playoffs if you disrupt the catch and gather.

What matters is Bron stepping up the first time this year vs a top contenders name. He’s hid from Kawhi, Ben, Giannis, Tatum. If Bron came out the gate and took Kawhi, he would inspire the team and shock everyone because he’s not taken KD or Kawhi dating back to Cleveland and Miami either. He has to set that tone and even the odds so people see there is nothing to be scared of

Why are you still repeating this after I already explained how you're wrong?

You made excuses and talked about the rockets and Mavericks who aren’t winning a damn thing. He’s not been the best player on the floor vs the actual contenders. Heck more so he’s not once tried to defend or stop the best player which would rally the team and set staples on fire because that is what Kobe or MJ would do in that spot.

Lol give me a break. You don't get to call some teams contenders and others not contenders just to fit your argument You're considering the Celtics and Sixers contenders while simultaneously dismissing the Rockets, Nuggets, Jazz, Mavericks, and Heat. The Sixers are the 6th seed. How many 6 seeds have made the Finals?

[TKainZero]

Deadline over

Looks like Lakers stood pat...
Disappointing. This team needed something.

I can’t even remember the last time the Lakers made a savvy trade...

Steve Blake for bazemore?

That was savvy? They never got anything for him and Bazemore left them, pissed off and insulted by the way to the point he wouldn’t negotiate years later

Blake was leaving and Lakers weren’t competing.
Bazemore wasn’t getting mins at all in GS and came in and played very well, so much that he got a huge deal in the offseason.

It’s deals like that where you trade something that isn’t going to be around for the long term, and take a chance on a a player who might be.

[kblo247]

Why are you still repeating this after I already explained how you're wrong?

You made excuses and talked about the rockets and Mavericks who aren’t winning a damn thing. He’s not been the best player on the floor vs the actual contenders. Heck more so he’s not once tried to defend or stop the best player which would rally the team and set staples on fire because that is what Kobe or MJ would do in that spot.

Lol give me a break. You don't get to call some teams contenders and others not contenders just to fit your argument You're considering the Celtics and Sixers contenders while simultaneously dismissing the Rockets, Nuggets, Jazz, Mavericks, and Heat. The Sixers are the 6th seed. How many 6 seeds have made the Finals?

The Rockets aren’t a contender
- D’Antoni isn’t a playoff coach who makes adjustments
- Harden routinely chokes and plays no D
- Westbrook is dumb as rocks, shoots teams out, and hasn’t been past the first without KD
- Now add in the fact the Clips can play their five smalls with Kawhi PG Lou Morris Shamet

The Nuggets aren’t a contender
- They have no star perimeter guys to go to with everything on the line
- Harris has regressed
- they didn’t consolidate their guys into a star

Jazz
- Conley hasn’t been good this year
- Clarkson went ghost last playoffs he played in and he is their offensive bench

Mavs
- Not Ready yet, need a Center, Luka and Unicorn both go get baptized in the playoffs

Heat
- the heat missed multiple guys both games and suck on the road.

The contenders are Boston, Phili, Bucks, and Clippers. Clippers have kicked his ass this year and it’s not close, in fact he played hurt one game and said there’s no rivalry the other after Kawhi ran a king of la commercial. Boston best the **** out of him on national tv. Freak dominated him in prime time and he didn’t defend anyone at all, in fact they ran pick and roll at him and exploited his not switching and closing out. Ben Simmons ran circles around him, defended him on the other end, and did it without Embiid

[TKainZero]

JR smith?
what!

[Mamba Mentality]

I swear to god man if JR Smith gets a roster spot I'm gonna lose my ****.

[kblo247]

Marcus Morris shoots 43.9% from 3 and takes pride guarding LeBron. Per Second Spectrum, Morris has been the nearest defender on 123 shots by LeBron over last 5 seasons, including playoffs, most in that span. He’s held LeBron to 42% shooting, 4th-lowest in the league (min. 50 FG).

[illastrate]

Also, why do the Clippers always go after the people we want? Don’t they have plans of their own? Or they just try to screw us every deadline and offseason? It’s like their agenda for every time we try to get a player we want.

It's no secret they have been interested in Morris:

https://nba.nbcsports.com/2019/07/19/rumor-clippers-offered-marcus-morris-three-years-41-million-at-start-of-free-agency/

[kblo247]

MAtt Barnes just said on the Jump Darren Collison just said he's 50/50 on coming back to play basketball, and that he will take his family into consideration

[Kilroy]

Yeah... So, that was a thing.

[Slava]

So we didn't even open up a roster spot for Collison or any other buyout candidates? WTF?!

[kblo247]

So we didn't even open up a roster spot for Collison or any other buyout candidates? WTF?!

If it is DC I'm expecting them to agree with Cousins to let him go, pay his money, and stay with the team

[lazybatman]

All of you who think Lebron should man up (in yr 17) and guard Kawhi, Ben, Tatum, etc, I don't think that's the answer cos -

1. He's not been a top class on ball defender for 3-5 years now, so I'm not sure how many points he'll shave off them.
2. He's currently leading the league in +13.8 ORTG. Chances are that's gonna take a hit with all the energy he's gonna have to waste on the defensive end. How do the Lakers make up for that?

The answers might be -
- set plays, especially when Lebron's off. The role players should be getting easier shots, a' la Popovich's Spurs or Brad Stevens' Celtics. Just copy their damn plays ffs. There are no secret playbooks in basketball.
- signing Darren Collison to improve ball distribution, although I could see that easily ruffling Rondo's(AD+Boogie) feathers
- out of time out plays

I think Kidd & Vogel are both extremely defensive minded coaches, which has kinda kept this team's offense from being truly unlocked. Think the 2016-18 Cavs.. Those teams could not hold a candle to this Lakers team on offensive talent, but they had better synergy on offense, making poor shooters look like f*ing ninjas.

Lebron isn't the best player on the court in those games, but he's by far the most valuable Laker on the floor. We'd be best served by putting that to best use, rather than trying to make lemonade with damn apples.

[thebigbird]

You made excuses and talked about the rockets and Mavericks who aren’t winning a damn thing. He’s not been the best player on the floor vs the actual contenders. Heck more so he’s not once tried to defend or stop the best player which would rally the team and set staples on fire because that is what Kobe or MJ would do in that spot.

Lol give me a break. You don't get to call some teams contenders and others not contenders just to fit your argument You're considering the Celtics and Sixers contenders while simultaneously dismissing the Rockets, Nuggets, Jazz, Mavericks, and Heat. The Sixers are the 6th seed. How many 6 seeds have made the Finals?

The Rockets aren’t a contender
- D’Antoni isn’t a playoff coach who makes adjustments
- Harden routinely chokes and plays no D
- Westbrook is dumb as rocks, shoots teams out, and hasn’t been past the first without KD
- Now add in the fact the Clips can play their five smalls with Kawhi PG Lou Morris Shamet

The Nuggets aren’t a contender
- They have no star perimeter guys to go to with everything on the line
- Harris has regressed
- they didn’t consolidate their guys into a star

Jazz
- Conley hasn’t been good this year
- Clarkson went ghost last playoffs he played in and he is their offensive bench

Mavs
- Not Ready yet, need a Center, Luka and Unicorn both go get baptized in the playoffs

Heat
- the heat missed multiple guys both games and suck on the road.

The contenders are Boston, Phili, Bucks, and Clippers. Clippers have kicked his ass this year and it’s not close, in fact he played hurt one game and said there’s no rivalry the other after Kawhi ran a king of la commercial. Boston best the **** out of him on national tv. Freak dominated him in prime time and he didn’t defend anyone at all, in fact they ran pick and roll at him and exploited his not switching and closing out. Ben Simmons ran circles around him, defended him on the other end, and did it without Embiid

I love how you made your contenders the four teams LeBron had bad games against, lol. It makes you agenda very obvious.

LeBron played well against some great teams, and he didn't play well against some great teams. The Sixers are 31-20 right now. So are OKC and Dallas. Miami, Houston, Denver, and Utah all have better records. There isn't a way for you to argue that the Sixers are contenders while dismissing every single team that I mentioned. You say Harden is a playoff choker, and that D'Antoni isn't a playoff coach, yet Houston went 7 games in the WCF with the Durant Warriors.

If you had just said that Milwaukee, the Clippers, and the Lakers are the three contenders in the NBA, and LeBron struggled against those two, then I would agree with you.In my opinion, those are the only three contenders in the NBA. But it's pretty silly to call the Celtics and 6th seed Sixers contenders, while saying that the 2 and 4 seeds in the East, and the 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 seeds in the West "aren't winning anything." It really just looks like you chose the Celtics and Sixers as "contenders" because you need ammo for you "LeBron struggled against contenders" argument. In no way are those two teams contenders if none of the teams I mentioned are.

[Kilroy]

I swear to god man if JR Smith gets a roster spot I'm gonna lose my ****.

Yeah that’ll put the exclamation point on this season for me too...

[zimpy27]

The truth is Lakers have a roster that was strung together from leftovers in the off-season after Kawhi masterfully tried to destroy their chance of winning a championship while building a championship team on the Clippers.

Everything the Lakers have done have been miraculous in the season so far. To even be where they are. They don't have the pieces to swap around and improve their championship odds right now.

They need this team plus Collison.

JR could be a good option, he's rested and he can get hot from 3, he's a decent defender.

[BEazy]

Hope they know something about Boogie we don’t know...

[kblo247]

Lol give me a break. You don't get to call some teams contenders and others not contenders just to fit your argument You're considering the Celtics and Sixers contenders while simultaneously dismissing the Rockets, Nuggets, Jazz, Mavericks, and Heat. The Sixers are the 6th seed. How many 6 seeds have made the Finals?

The Rockets aren’t a contender
- D’Antoni isn’t a playoff coach who makes adjustments
- Harden routinely chokes and plays no D
- Westbrook is dumb as rocks, shoots teams out, and hasn’t been past the first without KD
- Now add in the fact the Clips can play their five smalls with Kawhi PG Lou Morris Shamet

The Nuggets aren’t a contender
- They have no star perimeter guys to go to with everything on the line
- Harris has regressed
- they didn’t consolidate their guys into a star

Jazz
- Conley hasn’t been good this year
- Clarkson went ghost last playoffs he played in and he is their offensive bench

Mavs
- Not Ready yet, need a Center, Luka and Unicorn both go get baptized in the playoffs

Heat
- the heat missed multiple guys both games and suck on the road.

The contenders are Boston, Phili, Bucks, and Clippers. Clippers have kicked his ass this year and it’s not close, in fact he played hurt one game and said there’s no rivalry the other after Kawhi ran a king of la commercial. Boston best the **** out of him on national tv. Freak dominated him in prime time and he didn’t defend anyone at all, in fact they ran pick and roll at him and exploited his not switching and closing out. Ben Simmons ran circles around him, defended him on the other end, and did it without Embiid

I love how you made your contenders the four teams LeBron had bad games against, lol. It makes you agenda very obvious.

LeBron played well against some great teams, and he didn't play well against some great teams. The Sixers are 31-20 right now. So are OKC and Dallas. Miami, Houston, Denver, and Utah all have better records. There isn't a way for you to argue that the Sixers are contenders while dismissing every single team that I mentioned. You say Harden is a playoff choker, and that D'Antoni isn't a playoff coach, yet Houston went 7 games in the WCF with the Durant Warriors.

If you had just said that Milwaukee, the Clippers, and the Lakers are the three contenders in the NBA, and LeBron struggled against those two, then I would agree with you.In my opinion, those are the only three contenders in the NBA. But it's pretty silly to call the Celtics and 6th seed Sixers contenders, while saying that the 2 and 4 seeds in the East, and the 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 seeds in the West "aren't winning anything." It really just looks like you chose the Celtics and Sixers as "contenders" because you need ammo for you "LeBron struggled against contenders" argument. In no way are those two teams contenders if none of the teams I mentioned are.

They missed 26 damn threes in a row and made no adjustments. And Iguodala missed those same games like CP. Then they the next year lost at home without KD. Harden also stumbled the ball out of bounds late early that series. Pringle’s makes no adjustments.

The Sixers and Celtics are going to fall in the bracket 2/3/6/7 meaning they are going to get the bucks at the end of the conference finals. The Sixers have one of the best home court records there is and if they are healthy they can throw everything at Giannis and wall off the paint. He showed last year he can be stopped. Top it off with the fact he’s been shooting 30% or so from three and in the 60s from the line since the Laker game. Bledsoe also has been god awful the past two playoffs and Hill always goes ghost dating back to the Spurs days so Brogdons absence will be felt. I think catching them at the end will be key in that other bracket. I wouldn’t put it pat Boston with all their wings to Phili with Simmons and rim protection to stop them.

Let me clarify I think the East has different contender standards to get the finals. It’s like 02 when there were the nets, pacers, and pistons. I think they all can do it in that bracket.

Out west I just think it’s the LA teams and they have guys who have been there before and it will show in the playoffs. I do think they both need to not waste energy though. Like I can see Memphis wasting the Lakers energy and the Rockets wasting the clippers but really it won’t matter as much because the conference finals is going to be two weeks of sleeping in your bed, practicing in your gym, and routine.

I would agree with you probably next year on the Mavs but it’s inevitable history teaches us that Luka and Unicorn go take their lumps and learn what they need to work on in their first playoff runs. Kobe airballed; KD got locked up by arrest, Pau didn’t win a game, dirk got called soft, etc so I expect them to take their lump and comeback next year much better from self improvement of those two. Then next year the warriors should be back and that’s your four.

But you go have to miss me on D’Antoni and Harden when the playoffs come

[RamonSessions7]

Probably gonna get no one to agree with this, or more likely and understandably immediate disregard, but I’d like a waived Waiters on this time. I’ll see myself out now

[Sushisensei26]

The clippers got better. And we already had issues playing them. Fcuk