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Post#41 » by fteru6uhre54ew » Thu Feb 9, 2023 10:06 am

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Cappy_Smurf wrote:Good trade for Lakers, but...

I think it comes a little too late in the season.

I would prefer construct a team for the years past Lebron to come than win now Kobe as a example and if you can do both better. With this roster at least you have AD + young players some talent and assets to trade.


You don't go building around AD ... I think AD will be traded In the off season just my opinion.

Traded for what?. You are not gonna get something better for him in a trade than AD. The only way is just do what the Nets have done it.
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Post#42 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 10:10 am

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siFy wrote:I would prefer construct a team for the years past Lebron to come than win now Kobe as a example and if you can do both better. With this roster at least you have AD + young players some talent and assets to trade.


You don't go building around AD ... I think AD will be traded In the off season just my opinion.

Traded for what?. You are not gonna get something better for him in a trade than AD


I don't know I'm just saying I think he'll be traded. but rumors have Lavine, but anything can happen this Is the NBA
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Post#43 » by stan francisco » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:13 am

I’m disturbed by AD’s demeanor after halftime. Would like to know.
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Re: D’Angelo Russell, Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt to Lakers 

Post#44 » by Pythagoras » Thu Feb 9, 2023 12:15 pm

stan francisco wrote:I’m disturbed by AD’s demeanor after halftime. Would like to know.


I think they’ll make one more move this deadline and see if Lebron and AD can figure it out with this new and improved supporting cast, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they tested the waters on an AD trade this offseason.

The problem is I don’t really see a deal out there that makes any kind of sense just yet.
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Post#45 » by stan francisco » Thu Feb 9, 2023 3:46 pm

Beasley and Jarred can stay around. I dig.

D Lo must be traded in the off-season for lack of defense and lack of ice in his veins and lack of loyalty to his former Laker team mates.

This sure beats letting Russ’ contract expire.
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Post#46 » by Braggins » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:18 pm

The criticisms of Dlo aren't wrong, but hes also the exact kind of player Lebron always makes look better than they are. Hes honestly a pretty good fit. His weaknesses were exacerbated in Minnesota because he had to be their primary playmaker and decision maker. The Lakers need him to exactly what hes good at, shoot open 3s and be a tertiary scorer/creator.

Does anyone know yet when the new guys will be playing their first game?
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Re: D’Angelo Russell, Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt to Lakers 

Post#47 » by Kilroy » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:24 pm

I also think there's a good chance AD gets traded... And AD for Lavine makes a lot of sense now, with the new additions...
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Post#48 » by ROballer » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:46 pm

Kilroy wrote:I also think there's a good chance AD gets traded... And AD for Lavine makes a lot of sense now, with the new additions...


There's not a chance in hell AD gets traded.

And Lavine is a modest return anyway.
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Post#49 » by LAKESHOW » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:55 pm

stan francisco wrote:I’m disturbed by AD’s demeanor after halftime. Would like to know.

The word that I got, was Westbrook's altercation had set everything off. Further details I do not know
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Re: D’Angelo Russell, Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt to Lakers 

Post#50 » by Kilroy » Thu Feb 9, 2023 4:56 pm

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Kilroy wrote:I also think there's a good chance AD gets traded... And AD for Lavine makes a lot of sense now, with the new additions...


There's not a chance in hell AD gets traded.

And Lavine is a modest return anyway.


Pretty sure they were already discussing AD for KD deals... I think ADs not happy, and I think the FO is desperate. There aren't a whole lot of options out there for AD and Lavine is probably the best 'win-now-ish" option.... A bold move would be to try to get Ayton from Phoenix, but I doubt they want to risk adding AD to that team...
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Re: D’Angelo Russell, Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt to Lakers 

Post#51 » by ROballer » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:06 pm

Lavine and two 1sts is a bare minimum IMO.

I mean I think I'd do something like this, considering Davis' injury concerns:

Davis for Lavine and 2 1sts.

Then you reroute Russell to Toronto alongside Lonnie Walker, Reaves and Christie + 3 1sts(the two from Chicago + our 2029 one) for VanVleet and OG.

And trade Pat Beverley for Richaun Holmes, since we'd have no bigs. Don't get me starting on Thomas Bryant, he really ain't it.


I could live with a lineup of:

VanVleet/Schroder
Lavine/Beasley
Anunoby/Hachimura
Lebron/Vanderbilt
Holmes/Bryant
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Post#52 » by ROballer » Thu Feb 9, 2023 5:09 pm

We just traded Thomas Bryant, I jinxed his ass. :lol: :lol:
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Re: D’Angelo Russell, Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt to Lakers 

Post#53 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Feb 9, 2023 7:50 pm

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Kilroy wrote:I also think there's a good chance AD gets traded... And AD for Lavine makes a lot of sense now, with the new additions...


There's not a chance in hell AD gets traded.

And Lavine is a modest return anyway.


I don't think he'll get traded b4 the deadline, too close, I think they'll keep him for now, but In the offseason Is when they'll look at trading him + the 1st for someone like Lavine - That's If they don't end up trading the pic they have left for something else, but they'll end up trading him - How much longer until the deadline anyway? Is it over or still a few hours?
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Post#54 » by heezyo2o » Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:33 pm

I have no idea what the rotation is going to look like now
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Post#55 » by shrink » Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:31 pm

Hey guys! MIN fan here, and I thought I could give you a little inside info about these three guys.

Vanderbilt will be a fan favorite, because he is an all out hustler, and he inspires other players to play defense. He is really skinny which hurts him when he tries to bang, but he wriggles inside for offensive rebounds. He’s not a good shooter and can’t catch difficult passes, but you will love him on the court. He’s long and quick and brings grit on defense. MIN got him as a throw in, and found we couldn’t keep him out of the starting line up.

Malik Beasley set MIN’s single season record last year for three pointers in a season - and he did it mainly coming off the bench! I underestimated his impact coming in, but if you make that many three’s, it’s because you take, and make, a lot of difficult shots. Beasley has the ability to catch a ball on a full run and shoot accurately, which is a crazy skill that gives him ridiculous gravity. He has great mechanics, and he’s one of the five best three point shooters in the league. There was no residual problems from his arrest 2.5 years ago and his teammates liked him.

D’Angelo Russell is not the same player he was when you had him, or even three months ago. Russell never liked being a point guard and always insisted he was a combo guard. He is an excellent passer, but if he plays PG too long, he invariable starts questioning when he should shoot and when he should pass. I think he’s #10 in assists, but he makes dumb turnovers. However, last December MIN started experimenting with Anthony Edwards at point guard, and DLo had more of a complimentary scorer role. This seemed to really help him, and after a poor start, he was shooting 50/40/90 since December 1, and he’s in the middle of his best season ever. He can be extremely hot and cold though - in a game last week, he was 9-for-9 in the first half with 8 3’s, and 0-for-6 in the second half. He is not athletic, but he is crafty enough to always get his own shot, so he’s good at the end of the shot clock. He’ll never be a good defender, but he will be a good offensive fit with you, running the offense when your stars want him too, but he’s an even better shooter when you put the ball in LeBron’s hands.

i hope this post provided a little extra insight. Good luck the rest of the way.
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Post#56 » by MAMBAEMD » Thu Feb 9, 2023 10:08 pm

heezyo2o wrote:I have no idea what the rotation is going to look like now


Neither does Ham.
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Post#57 » by madmaxmedia » Thu Feb 9, 2023 10:21 pm

That 2027 pick is so weird. Only top-4 protected which means it could easily convey even if the Lakers are really bad. OTOH it immediately converts to a 2nd if it doesn't convey. If you're are looking sorta washed heading into the 2026/7 offseason, may as well tank harder than anyone has ever tanked hard before in the history of hard tanking, to keep that pick. Because it turns into a pumpkin the day after the lottery.
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Post#58 » by Beethoven » Thu Feb 9, 2023 10:35 pm

Not going to lie, I'm excited to see how all this works out going forward.
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Post#59 » by TylersLakers » Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:10 pm

Cappy_Smurf wrote:Good trade for Lakers, but...

I think it comes a little too late in the season.


This is my concern as well. However, Utah wouldn't have done this deal a month ago. Danny would've demanded the x2 picks.
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Re: D’Angelo Russell, Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt to Lakers 

Post#60 » by stan francisco » Fri Feb 10, 2023 9:42 am

Since the two are similarly inept on defense, I think we should give Russ’ rotation minutes to D Lo straight up.

Defense!

Depending on Beasley’s defense, I’d jet him into the starters over both Beverly and Schroeder due to his shooting. We need sharp shooting from the three.

Vanderbilt is our new energizer bunny who will keep us entertained by hustling his ass off when AD sits.

As I see it D Lo is here to be traded in the off-season. He was the least harmful return for Russ’ expiring which needed to go.
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