Official trade thread/buy-out market 20-21 edition

[zimpy27]

If Green + Kuz + 28 for Dipo is on the table we should take it, no offense to Kuzma but he is probably never going to be the third star (at least on the lakers) that a guy like Oladipo will be. A 2nd ring is far more important than potentially what Kuzma may be in 4-5 years time, especially if he's still got the same bad habits he has now. He may end up being a Julius Randle type player (which is a good player but not neccesarily one that you want to be your main piece in a winning situation).

It is on the table for Indy to decide. Indy haven't suggested the trade however reportable it's the best offer they've had for Dipo. Indy may just choose to keep Dipo, it's not an overwhelming offer.

[Slava]

If Green + Kuz + 28 for Dipo is on the table we should take it, no offense to Kuzma but he is probably never going to be the third star (at least on the lakers) that a guy like Oladipo will be. A 2nd ring is far more important than potentially what Kuzma may be in 4-5 years time, especially if he's still got the same bad habits he has now. He may end up being a Julius Randle type player (which is a good player but not neccesarily one that you want to be your main piece in a winning situation).

It is on the table for Indy to decide. Indy haven't suggested the trade however reportable it's the best offer they've had for Dipo. Indy may just choose to keep Dipo, it's not an overwhelming offer.

If the season is from December to summer, the trade deadline would be somewhere in March, that may or may not be enough time for Oladipo to play up his value and Indiana is sitting in luxury tax territory unless they can move someone like Turner. They have an incentive to make a deal before the draft as the better suitors for Oladipo like Denver, Brooklyn and New Orleans might all be angling towards Holiday and Beal before they come down to their option Bs.

[stan francisco]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/259984/NBA-Targeting-Dec-22-Start-72-Game-Schedule-With-Finals-Over-By-Olympics

[BEazy]

With the league targeting December 22nd as the start date, GMs will have to work really fast on trades. I think we're going to be in for a slow offseason.

[mcscotty]

You guys really want Olidipo? He's coming back from a torn quad with a ruptured tendon. Didn't play particularly well last season. I feel there are better options.

[tamaraw08]

With the league targeting December 22nd as the start date, GMs will have to work really fast on trades. I think we're going to be in for a slow offseason.

I find it a bit shocking why some fans here wants this guy esp with some glaring facts last season.
He missed about 100 games for the last 2 years bec of ruptured Quadriceps Tendon.
He eventually returned missing 68% of his 3pt shot, just hitting 39.4% FG in 19 games. He improved his 3pt shooting in 4 games he played in the playoffs but had more turnovers than his paltry 2.5 assists/game.
We lamented when Green missed that crucial 3pt shot but bear in mind that Oladipo has a career 35% from that area, failing to hit above 35% in 5 of 7 years. His career 53.6TS% WAS MATCHED BY Avery's 53.7TS% and KCP'S 58.4TS% last season.
KCP shot 60% TS% in the last playoffs.
My best guess is KCP and Rich Paul wants to get paid and more years but Rob is very reluctant to give in bec of his '21 offseason plan. Indiana ALSO doesn't want to pay Victor so they are exploring any options to get good players back. Pelinka may get enticed bec of his EXPIRING CONTRACT, but my GOLLY, giving up Green and his defense,Kuzma and 28th pick? for this guy?
For me I will look elsewhere where the Lakers can ACTUALLY GET BETTER. I'VE been wrong many times before, maybe Oladipo has regained his form for all we know. Yes, this team really needs playmakers esp off the bench.

[stan francisco]

We don’t need a playmaker, third star, big name added. Rondo, Caruso, James, Davis, THT can all handle and pass well.

What we need is a wing 3D and a passing C between Howard and Kostas (who is third string) who sets hard screens, rebounds and protects the paint. Can DMC still run?

If so, we should spend the two buck we have left (after Davis, Rondo and Howard are secured) on a 3 and D wing.

I’m good w KCP but only for role player money. Josh Jackson is a future star defender in my mind if he’s able to focus on that. His shot will eventually improve. Running the flank on the break is perfect for him.

[lazybatman]

Why would that be the plan?
Compromise the ability to build the best team possible next season for the slim chance Giannis take a pay cut to join the Lakers in 2021.

Seems like it shouldn't be the plan.

I was ready for a big rebuttal but ran across this that expresses my thoughts even better than I would

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So effectively they are choosing to compromise the very best team next season in order to keep open space in 2021.

It won't be Giannis, they don't have enough. Who else would they target instead? What's a young player? Younger than AD I assume?

Oladipo, Lonzo, Dinwiddie, Fox, Kennard, Collins, White

Who else is a young player to add in free agency?

Idk if he said that..

I think we are ripe to sign and trade in great role player FAs like Galinari / Ibaka / Bertans and some nice minimums like Korver, if we want. It's all we need to be legit favourites for the title next season.

[lazybatman]

We don’t need a playmaker, third star, big name added. Rondo, Caruso, James, Davis, THT can all handle and pass well.

What we need is a wing 3D and a passing C between Howard and Kostas (who is third string) who sets hard screens, rebounds and protects the paint. Can DMC still run?

If so, we should spend the two buck we have left (after Davis, Rondo and Howard are secured) on a 3 and D wing.

I’m good w KCP but only for role player money. Josh Jackson is a future star defender in my mind if he’s able to focus on that. His shot will eventually improve. Running the flank on the break is perfect for him.

Entirely agree. We should be getting Boogie pretty cheap hopefully, so just a 3D wing or two.

[stan francisco]

We don’t need a playmaker, third star, big name added. Rondo, Caruso, James, Davis, THT can all handle and pass well.

What we need is a wing 3D and a passing C between Howard and Kostas (who is third string) who sets hard screens, rebounds and protects the paint. Can DMC still run?

If so, we should spend the two buck we have left (after Davis, Rondo and Howard are secured) on a 3 and D wing.

I’m good w KCP but only for role player money. Josh Jackson is a future star defender in my mind if he’s able to focus on that. His shot will eventually improve. Running the flank on the break is perfect for him.

Entirely agree. We should be getting Boogie pretty cheap hopefully, so just a 3D wing or two.

Yes.

I assume that this is total pipe and I don’t know how we get there, but this is what I’d like to see:

James / Caruso / Rondo
Green / THT / #28
Bertans / Kuzma / Jackson
AD / James / Cacok / Ibaka
Ibaka / Howard / Kostas

Bradley, KCP are interchangeable with Green in a trade (defensive guards) as far as our on-court needs go. JMG can stay but going forward I don’t see what he can do that Kostas can’t so I’d dangle him to go after Bertans or McDermott. Smith, Waiters, Dudley are moveable. Bertans, Jackson can both double at SG. All of these players can play two positions or more to accommodate Frank’s defensive schemes of crisp switching.


Edit: or more realistically:

James / Caruso / Rondo
Green / THT / #28
Bertans / Kuzma / Jackson
AD / Morris / Cacok
Howard / DMC / Kostas

[lazybatman]

We don’t need a playmaker, third star, big name added. Rondo, Caruso, James, Davis, THT can all handle and pass well.

What we need is a wing 3D and a passing C between Howard and Kostas (who is third string) who sets hard screens, rebounds and protects the paint. Can DMC still run?

If so, we should spend the two buck we have left (after Davis, Rondo and Howard are secured) on a 3 and D wing.

I’m good w KCP but only for role player money. Josh Jackson is a future star defender in my mind if he’s able to focus on that. His shot will eventually improve. Running the flank on the break is perfect for him.

Entirely agree. We should be getting Boogie pretty cheap hopefully, so just a 3D wing or two.

Yes.

I assume that this is total pipe and I don’t know how we get there, but this is what I’d like to see:

James / Caruso / Rondo
Green / THT / #28
Bertans / Kuzma / Jackson
AD / James / Cacok / Ibaka
Ibaka / Howard / Kostas

Bradley, KCP are interchangeable with Green in a trade (defensive guards) as far as our on-court needs go. JMG can stay but going forward I don’t see what he can do that Kostas can’t so I’d dangle him to go after Bertans or McDermott. Smith, Waiters, Dudley are moveable. Bertans, Jackson can both double at SG. All of these players can play two positions or more to accommodate Frank’s defensive schemes of crisp switching.


Edit: or more realistically:

James / Caruso / Rondo
Green / THT / #28
Bertans / Kuzma / Jackson
AD / Morris / Cacok
Howard / DMC / Kostas

Oh, I'm taking Ibaka despite signing Boogie. Dwight's style of play is okay for bench minutes, but not reliable against good teams in the playoffs.

Be impossible to get Ibaka and Bertans / Gallo though. And keep Green.

[SlimShady83]

What are the chances of trading for Booker? even with a 3rd team if needed?

I just want a "young PG" to grow with AD more than a SF, PF

Don't know contracts etc, just curious. I doubt we get that

"3rd young star" this year, but maybe next?

Is there any other young PG out there that's worthy and more realistic? I haven't really kept uptodate with NBA

[lelelazza8]

D.Green + Kuzma + 28th to Orlando
For
T.Ross and 15th

LAL get a better shooter and with 15th pick get another shooter at pg (like T.Terry?)

ORL get an expring contract (Ross have 3 years left) a young talent in Kuzma and late 1st round pick

[Freighttrain]

What are the chances of trading for Booker? even with a 3rd team if needed?

I just want a "young PG" to grow with AD more than a SF, PF

Don't know contracts etc, just curious. I doubt we get that

"3rd young star" this year, but maybe next?

Is there any other young PG out there that's worthy and more realistic? I haven't really kept uptodate with NBA

There is no way we could trade for booker or beal this upcoming season. We only might have a slim chance in 2021-2022 to get a third star if LeBron takes a pay cut. The best we can possibly get this season is gallo or dipo.

[Beethoven]

You guys really want Olidipo? He's coming back from a torn quad with a ruptured tendon. Didn't play particularly well last season. I feel there are better options.

Yeah, Im not keen on surgically removing key lengthy defensive components in our system in green and kuzma for a guy coming off a big surgery.

I'm not a big fan of green either (nor kuzma) but the laker body wins at the moment. Why dissect and slice it up unless we can actually add a PROVEN replacement. We can do better than oladipo.

If not, well ,let's stand pat on this front.

[SlimShady83]

What are the chances of trading for Booker? even with a 3rd team if needed?

I just want a "young PG" to grow with AD more than a SF, PF

Don't know contracts etc, just curious. I doubt we get that

"3rd young star" this year, but maybe next?

Is there any other young PG out there that's worthy and more realistic? I haven't really kept uptodate with NBA

There is no way we could trade for booker or beal this upcoming season. We only might have a slim chance in 2021-2022 to get a third star if LeBron takes a pay cut. The best we can possibly get this season is gallo or dipo.

Yeh I wasn't to sure about this year:)

I just hope they wait patiently for that 3rd star ... Needs to be young and hungry someone to grow with AD

[stan francisco]

Somebody like Trey Young might be on Pelinka’s radar long term. Gianna and Kobe would love that. Morant is another he might be eyeing. Klay should be a vet target over the next few years. We need a great young perimeter defender to pair with AD’s controlling the paint on defense.

[BEazy]

For me its get AD to resign, get whatever value you can for DG, Kuz and 28th pick, resign Howard, Rondo, KCP, and hope AB opts in. Sign Boogie or Noel.

If DG, Kuz, and 28th can net us Victor Oladipo then so be it. Oladipo's contract will be expiring going into next season and we don't have to resign him if he tanks badly. This is like the Howard scenario, where he has to prove he can still play, and I can see Oladipo not backing down with him being so young and barely making a name for himself in the league.

Not much I see with 3 and D players, unless Gallo takes a huge pay cut.

[SlimShady83]

With the league targeting December 22nd as the start date, GMs will have to work really fast on trades. I think we're going to be in for a slow offseason.

It's why I think we're going to do a rush stupid trade.

D. Rose is great and I like the Idea of getting him for the story, but don't want to give to much for him

Oladipo dude everyone bragging about, but came off injuries and is he worth targeting this season?

[stan francisco]

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