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Game 12 : Miami Heat (7-3) @ Los Angeles Lakers (6-5) - 10:00 PM

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Re: Game 12 : Miami Heat (7-3) @ Los Angeles Lakers (6-5) - 10:00 PM 

Post#61 » by tamaraw08 » Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:44 am

Hans1984 wrote:I didn't expect us to win this game but we did. Monk played a great game.

3 banked shots from beyond 24 feet, plus one from AD who was shooting 13% and 3 missed free throws from Miami late helped.. somewhat. :nod:
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Re: Game 12 : Miami Heat (7-3) @ Los Angeles Lakers (6-5) - 10:00 PM 

Post#62 » by SlimShady83 » Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:59 am

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snaquille oatmeal wrote:DVR is your friend


lol sorry don't know what DVR is, never heard that b4 Remember from different country, so might not have what ever that is here lol.

Digital Video Recorder, TIVo!

LOL that makes sense. :) I normally watch the games when I'm home and if they're live, just not when they already played, because I always see the boxscores b4 the games and be like meh lol
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Re: Game 12 : Miami Heat (7-3) @ Los Angeles Lakers (6-5) - 10:00 PM 

Post#63 » by snaquille oatmeal » Fri Nov 12, 2021 12:54 pm

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lol sorry don't know what DVR is, never heard that b4 Remember from different country, so might not have what ever that is here lol.

Digital Video Recorder, TIVo!

LOL that makes sense. :) I normally watch the games when I'm home and if they're live, just not when they already played, because I always see the boxscores b4 the games and be like meh lol

It’s been a while since I’ve watch a live game. Even when I’m home I always wait at least an hour after a game has started to watch it because I get to fast forward during the commercials and long time out reviews.
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Re: Game 12 : Miami Heat (7-3) @ Los Angeles Lakers (6-5) - 10:00 PM 

Post#64 » by tamaraw08 » Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:35 pm

2 straight games when Vogel showed great courage to play players with questionable defensive abilities.
Malik Monk 34 minutes, Ellington with 21.5 mins, Melo with 37.4 mins and they held Miami to 105.5 ORTG, under 42%FG.
I can imagine Frank and his staff watching old tapes who Monk matched up with Duncan Robinson, how he did fairly well in the past.
If Vogel keep playing these guys and they ranked top 12 in DRTG for the next 50 games or so, then the Lakers would be in great shape, he should be elevated to Very Good to Great coach. :nod:
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Re: Game 12 : Miami Heat (7-3) @ Los Angeles Lakers (6-5) - 10:00 PM 

Post#65 » by euphorbus » Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:32 pm

tamaraw08 wrote:2 straight games when Vogel showed great courage to play players with questionable defensive abilities.
Malik Monk 34 minutes, Ellington with 21.5 mins, Melo with 37.4 mins and they held Miami to 105.5 ORTG, under 42%FG.
I can imagine Frank and his staff watching old tapes who Monk matched up with Duncan Robinson, how he did fairly well in the past.
If Vogel keep playing these guys and they ranked top 12 in DRTG for the next 50 games or so, then the Lakers would be in great shape, he should be elevated to Very Good to Great coach. :nod:


Top Defensive RTG on the Lakers:

Monk 98.0
Reaves 100.2
Howard 102.6

Bottom:

Bazemore 107.1
Davis 108.0
Bradley 109.5

Top NETRTG:

Monk 8.8
Reaves 8.2
Howard 3.6
Anthony 2.9

I expect that those two guys at the top in both categories will move back closer to the pack due to their having played a full quarter against the Portland third team. Likewise, they typically have not played against starters, unlike Davis, Bazemore, and Bradley.

Also, if you look at Basketball Reference, you will find a completely different set of numbers than the NBA gives.

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=-1&Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612747&CF=GP*GE*6
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Re: Game 12 : Miami Heat (7-3) @ Los Angeles Lakers (6-5) - 10:00 PM 

Post#66 » by tamaraw08 » Fri Nov 12, 2021 5:05 pm

euphorbus wrote:
tamaraw08 wrote:2 straight games when Vogel showed great courage to play players with questionable defensive abilities.
Malik Monk 34 minutes, Ellington with 21.5 mins, Melo with 37.4 mins and they held Miami to 105.5 ORTG, under 42%FG.
I can imagine Frank and his staff watching old tapes who Monk matched up with Duncan Robinson, how he did fairly well in the past.
If Vogel keep playing these guys and they ranked top 12 in DRTG for the next 50 games or so, then the Lakers would be in great shape, he should be elevated to Very Good to Great coach. :nod:


Top Defensive RTG on the Lakers:

Monk 98.0
Reaves 100.2
Howard 102.6

Bottom:

Bazemore 107.1
Davis 108.0
Bradley 109.5

Top NETRTG:

Monk 8.8
Reaves 8.2
Howard 3.6
Anthony 2.9

I expect that those two guys at the top in both categories will move back closer to the pack due to their having played a full quarter against the Portland third team. Likewise, they typically have not played against starters, unlike Davis, Bazemore, and Bradley.

Also, if you look at Basketball Reference, you will find a completely different set of numbers than the NBA gives.

https://www.nba.com/stats/players/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=-1&Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612747&CF=GP*GE*6

thanks for the research, great work. Important considerations are
1. match ups, I can't imagine Monk being able to hound and keep in step with Steph Curry from 40 feet.
2. The tons of screens of the guys they are guarding. You see a guy like Herro scoring 27 points or Jalen Green scoring big, being initially defended by Bradley, but if you watch intently, most of their points came from solid picks and transition, but if you fail to notice, you would easily say Avery is a bad defender.
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Re: Game 12 : Miami Heat (7-3) @ Los Angeles Lakers (6-5) - 10:00 PM 

Post#67 » by SlimShady83 » Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:47 pm

snaquille oatmeal wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:
snaquille oatmeal wrote:Digital Video Recorder, TIVo!

LOL that makes sense. :) I normally watch the games when I'm home and if they're live, just not when they already played, because I always see the boxscores b4 the games and be like meh lol

It’s been a while since I’ve watch a live game. Even when I’m home I always wait at least an hour after a game has started to watch it because I get to fast forward during the commercials and long time out reviews.



I only watch live games on weekends OR when I'm taking day off work.

I'm awaiting for today's game hope it's a fun one to watch:)
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