Make Your Best Offer: Kyle Kuzma

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Re: Make Your Best Offer: Kyle Kuzma 

Post#41 » by nate33 » Fri Mar 1, 2024 4:43 pm

HadAnEffectHere wrote:Over the last 4.5 years, Kyle Kuzma has a net total of

NEGATIVE 1.5 offensive win shares

He's been one of the worst offensive players in the NBA for a very long time and might be the most overrated player in the NBA.

Kuzma is not very good at shooting, doesn't get to the paint enough, and is one of the worst in the NBA at getting to the line.

The numbers are the numbers, and they don't lie.

But being ineffective in his particular role is not the same thing as being an ineffective NBA player. Kuzma really can do a lot of things that a lot of NBA players can't do. There are very few guys his size that can create off the bounce, see the floor, and be a three level scorer like Kuzma can. And Kuzma has shown in the past that he can be a solid NBA defender and above-average rebounder for his position. The problem with Kuzma is that he thinks he is better than he really is. He should have a usage of 20-23% and not 30%. If he could be convinced to stop shooting off-the-dribble 3's early in the shot clock, he would be a much better player. A team would trade for Kuzma under the premise that they could convince him to be a 3rd option type of player and cut out that bad shots.

Obviously, that's a bit of a gamble, but there's no doubt that the talent is there. For example, Kuzma is a 44% shooter from corner 3's. Put him in an off-ball role shooting corner 3's and attacking closeouts while expending more energy on defense and rebounding, and he could help a good team as a role playing starter. And then he could also step in as a 2nd or 1st option on their second unit.
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Re: Make Your Best Offer: Kyle Kuzma 

Post#42 » by 165bows » Fri Mar 1, 2024 5:05 pm

nate33 wrote:I think the same dynamics are in play for the Wizards this offseason as were in play at the Trade Deadline. The Wizards are happy with Kuzma and feel that his trade value will not depreciate anytime soon so they won't just settle for a ho-hum trade package.

It's going to take more than a mid-to-late FRP and an expiring contract to get him this summer.

I don't think that negotiating dynamic will change until the Trade Deadline next year and possibly not until Summer 2025. If a good offer for Kuzma has not been proposed by Summer 2025, then the Wizards might finally come down off of their asking price, recognizing that Kuzma's value will start to decline as we get closer and closer to the end of his contract.

Not to distract from the op but starting to feel like Boston’s first rounder this year ~#30 for a bunch of future seconds owned by Washington seems like a very decent likelihood.
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Re: Make Your Best Offer: Kyle Kuzma 

Post#43 » by nate33 » Fri Mar 1, 2024 5:08 pm

165bows wrote:
nate33 wrote:I think the same dynamics are in play for the Wizards this offseason as were in play at the Trade Deadline. The Wizards are happy with Kuzma and feel that his trade value will not depreciate anytime soon so they won't just settle for a ho-hum trade package.

It's going to take more than a mid-to-late FRP and an expiring contract to get him this summer.

I don't think that negotiating dynamic will change until the Trade Deadline next year and possibly not until Summer 2025. If a good offer for Kuzma has not been proposed by Summer 2025, then the Wizards might finally come down off of their asking price, recognizing that Kuzma's value will start to decline as we get closer and closer to the end of his contract.

Not to distract from the op but starting to feel like Boston’s first rounder this year ~#30 for a bunch of future seconds owned by Washington seems like a very decent likelihood.

That's interesting.

Though given the general dislike of this draft, I would think a high SRP in 2025 is more valuable than a low FRP in 2024. I don't see the Wizards giving up the DET 2025 SRP that they own.

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