The Luka trade framework, how far would OKC go to outbid SAS and others?

[jayjaysee]

And OKC isnt getting a top 5-6 player in the Association without giving up either of their top 2 players, thats just absurd.

Honestly, what team is offering more value than Jalen+Josh/Dieng+lottery pick+8 future firsts?

Because “8 firsts” doesn’t even mean OKC needs to trade all of their own picks.. so OKC could add more than that..

Presti can beat anyone’s realistic offer without including either of his two top assets. Which is true and absurd at the same time.

If they can maneuver it to get their 2027 and 2029 picks back from a few of those surplus of picks somehow sure, but otherwise dont see why Dallas would do it just to turn around and potentially give Cha and BKN top picks themselves

I think if Luka demands out by January (sort of what this thread is suggesting?)…

Dallas would have 1.5 years of tanking before the pick debt.

I don’t see the 2027 pick being valued more than any other teams high variance pick personally.

Lively / Jalen / two Dallas top 8 picks (2025 and 2026) and the rest of OKC’s owned picks/prospects..

Let’s hope this is just a boring fake trade idea. Dallas has the ability to trade for a new best forward this offseason and can go on a deep run next year. And this year really.

Maxi isn’t a center, THJ is kind of important until we upgrade him, and some other things that Kidd doesn’t seem to agree with me on..

[Wolveswin]

And OKC isnt getting a top 5-6 player in the Association without giving up either of their top 2 players, thats just absurd.

Honestly, what team is offering more value than Jalen+Josh/Dieng+lottery pick+8 future firsts?

Because “8 firsts” doesn’t even mean OKC needs to trade all of their own picks.. so OKC could add more than that..

Presti can beat anyone’s realistic offer without including either of his two top assets. Which is true and absurd at the same time.

If they can maneuver it to get their 2027 and 2029 picks back from a few of those surplus of picks somehow sure, but otherwise dont see why Dallas would do it just to turn around and potentially give Cha and BKN top picks themselves

No way either Jazz or Nets give up their Mavs 1st with no Doncic. It’s what they have (will have) been holding out for many years. The gamble in receiving those Mavs picks was hedging bets on Doncic exit.

But I think you are belittling the leftover team in Dallas.

Lively | Gafford
PJ | Kleber (Dieng?)
Giddey | Green
Jalen | THJ
Irving

Plus Mavs would have the say 8x 1sts from Presti and any of Mavs draft capital available. I would say move Irving and consolidate for a PG upgrade - almost anyone available with those assets (Garland?).

[jayjaysee]

Lively | Gafford
PJ | Kleber (Dieng?)
Giddey | Green
Jalen | THJ
Irving

Plus Mavs would have the say 8x 1sts from Presti and any of Mavs draft capital available. I would say move Irving and consolidate for a PG upgrade - almost anyone available with those assets (Garland?).

You trade Kyrie to LAL (or Miami I guess?) for a first of two, or a first and a prospect, etc, trade Gafford, PJ and Giddey for the best offer possible.. Now you realistically have “10-12” firsts from other teams and owe 2 (and two swaps)

Tanking is probably easy when you force Jalen into first option.

And try to have 90 mil cap space for 2026-2027 offseason. (Not for a star necessarily, just for the “FVV/Brooks” type filler)

[daoneandonly]

Lively | Gafford
PJ | Kleber (Dieng?)
Giddey | Green
Jalen | THJ
Irving

Plus Mavs would have the say 8x 1sts from Presti and any of Mavs draft capital available. I would say move Irving and consolidate for a PG upgrade - almost anyone available with those assets (Garland?).

You trade Kyrie to LAL (or Miami I guess?) for a first of two, or a first and a prospect, etc, trade Gafford, PJ and Giddey for the best offer possible.. Now you realistically have “10-12” firsts from other teams and owe 2 (and two swaps)

Tanking is probably easy when you force Jalen into first option.

And try to have 90 mil cap space for 2026-2027 offseason. (Not for a star necessarily, just for the “FVV/Brooks” type filler)

Of course I minimize it WOlves, because that's a bottom feeding team. I like Lively and Jalen, but both are what, 3rd best players on a contender? Again Giddey is a non factor and even with the legal trouble behind him, wouldnt see why he's an asset for Dal to target. Kyrie would complain his way off that team, and Green now and forever sucks.

[Wolveswin]

Lively | Gafford
PJ | Kleber (Dieng?)
Giddey | Green
Jalen | THJ
Irving

Plus Mavs would have the say 8x 1sts from Presti and any of Mavs draft capital available. I would say move Irving and consolidate for a PG upgrade - almost anyone available with those assets (Garland?).

You trade Kyrie to LAL (or Miami I guess?) for a first of two, or a first and a prospect, etc, trade Gafford, PJ and Giddey for the best offer possible.. Now you realistically have “10-12” firsts from other teams and owe 2 (and two swaps)

Tanking is probably easy when you force Jalen into first option.

And try to have 90 mil cap space for 2026-2027 offseason. (Not for a star necessarily, just for the “FVV/Brooks” type filler)

Of course I minimize it WOlves, because that's a bottom feeding team. I like Lively and Jalen, but both are what, 3rd best players on a contender? Again Giddey is a non factor and even with the legal trouble behind him, wouldnt see why he's an asset for Dal to target. Kyrie would complain his way off that team, and Green now and forever sucks.

Well you are belittling 2 out of 5 players from the starting five of best team in West. And I am sure Dort is in the OKC package too (valuable and his salary needed). That would be 3/5 best team in West starting players for Doncic. Go back and read this thread how highly many think of Jalen.

Is Jalen = Ja. Of course not. If Mavs can hold out and want a player able to carry a team - do that. But Presti doesn’t need to add Chet and IMHO will not.

[daoneandonly]

You trade Kyrie to LAL (or Miami I guess?) for a first of two, or a first and a prospect, etc, trade Gafford, PJ and Giddey for the best offer possible.. Now you realistically have “10-12” firsts from other teams and owe 2 (and two swaps)

Tanking is probably easy when you force Jalen into first option.

And try to have 90 mil cap space for 2026-2027 offseason. (Not for a star necessarily, just for the “FVV/Brooks” type filler)

Of course I minimize it WOlves, because that's a bottom feeding team. I like Lively and Jalen, but both are what, 3rd best players on a contender? Again Giddey is a non factor and even with the legal trouble behind him, wouldnt see why he's an asset for Dal to target. Kyrie would complain his way off that team, and Green now and forever sucks.

Well you are belittling 2 out of 5 players from the starting five of best team in West. And I am sure Dort is in the OKC package too (valuable and his salary needed). That would be 3/5 best team in West starting players for Doncic. Go back and read this thread how highly many think of Jalen.

Is Jalen = Ja. Of course not. If Mavs can hold out and want a player able to carry a team - do that. But Presti doesn’t need to add Chet and IMHO will not.

Im not belittling Jalen at all, he's super solid, but Luka is on a whole different level. Thats not throwing shade on Jalen, just two different tiers of players. Yeah Giddey sucks, so yeah ill belittle him. Every team great, good, average, bad; all have weak links. Josh Giddey is OKC's, and even after your proposed trade he'd eb Dallas'. That's not a valuable player.

[Apz]

Still waiting for those threads for ANT, sga and ja. All have years to catch up to what lukas mavd teams done and have constant fails. Are they so **** players they are happy with what they done?

[SNPA]

Dallas should ask for Chet and Jalen, and a pick.

8 picks has diminishing returns. Dallas should tell Presti if those picks are so great then he should have no problem building a winner with Luka/SGA.