Dame Time in South Beach

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Re: Dame Time in South Beach 

Post#41 » by JB2 » Mon Nov 11, 2024 4:10 am

Norm2953 wrote:Is there another team for Dame if a Miami trade cannot be worked out?



I would think Lakers would have to register interest
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Re: Dame Time in South Beach 

Post#42 » by otbotb » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:25 am

i would assume lakers would be interested for dame as well. Everyone available except bron, ad, reaves, and bronny haha
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Re: Dame Time in South Beach 

Post#43 » by Slim Charless » Mon Nov 11, 2024 3:17 pm

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Buckfan76 wrote:Another team that has good trade assets for the Bucks for Dame is Orlando. They could throw multiple youth at MKE & draft picks.

What do you think that package might be? I see one good young player and a first really as the top value for Dame. I would think Franz, Banchero and Suggs are all off the table in a trade for Dame.


As a Bucks fan I'm 100% not expecting any of those folks from the ORL side. Folks like KCP (routed to a 3rd team), C.Anthony, Issac, C. Howard, A.Black would be folks I'd be interested in with some 1st round picks coming back too.


That's a good rebuilding trade...but not enough to keep Giannis happy. Probably have to move him too. How about Dame to HOU for FVV, Whitmore and 1 PHX pick?
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Re: Dame Time in South Beach 

Post#44 » by wadenation305 » Mon Nov 11, 2024 5:04 pm

Hard no, Herro so far has really come into his own and is pretty much leading our team being the most consistent thing for us this season. Finally has figured out how to draw fouls, as well as being efficient and effective. He gives us similar production to Dame at 18mil less per season. And then on top of that we have to throw in a pick and our young guys, for a 34 year old? No thank you
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Re: Dame Time in South Beach 

Post#45 » by babyjax13 » Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:11 pm

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BBallFreak wrote:No, that's not what Miami needs to be willing to do. That would be a cosmically terrible thing for Miami to do. Dame isn't worth that. He's old as dirt, plays no defense, and is vastly overpaid. If we were foolish enough to go after Dame it would be to put him with Bam and Butler, not in place of Butler.

Isn't this common sense?

Wouldn't it be commons sense that Milwaukee, a team that wants to content, wouldn't trade Dame for Herro and/or Rozier as the centerpiece without significant compensation? Dame has been better than Butler this year and through their careers & is not expiring & is younger than Dame. If Miami wants him they'll have too give a good offer.


Wouldn't it be common sense that Miami, a team that wants to contend, wouldn't trade it's best playoff performer? There's no point to the trade without Jimmy. This is, at best, a lateral move. Dame is not the playoff performer that Butler is, and that contract isn't pretty. You think it's a positive that he's NOT expiring given his age and the money he's owed? I don't.

I didn't want Dame two years ago. Now you're telling me that we have to give up Jimmy for him? No thanks.

And it's Milwaukee that needs to shake things up, not Miami. We're a proven entity. At worst, we'll be a play-in team. Where's Milwaukee going? Not a shot at them, but they're the ones trying to figure it out. Let them go elsewhere if they don't want what we're offering. I don't think they'll find a lot of teams but they might find one. Good for them if they do, but Dame is looking like fools gold to me.

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Lillard is an amazing playoff performer. I get wanting to keep Butler (hence *if*), but there is very little reason for Milwaukee to do a deal otherwise, and if Miami doesn't want to put assets on the table then it should be very understandable while Milwaukee wouldn't proceed with a deal. Herro is fine, but there are so many guards who play bad to abysmal defense who can average something like 20-24ppg and 5apg on good percentages. Herro is - in my opinion - the best of that group, but if guys like Sexton and Simons would be available for a late first (I'd assume that is the cost to get those teams to easily move off of them) there is no reason to trade your second best player for Herro.
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Re: Dame Time in South Beach 

Post#46 » by Ell Curry » Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:27 pm

Norm2953 wrote:Is there another team for Dame if a Miami trade cannot be worked out?


The Lakers really jump out.

Conley and Randle in a 3 way trade maybe? Same cost for Minnesota in dollars as if they keep Randle at the same amount and Lillard-Edwards-McDaniels-Reid-Gobert with DeVincenzo as 6th man is fun. Maybe move NAW for a 3rd big, or move Dillingham for a young big somewhere? Or move Devincenzo for the big, pay a huge tax and re-sign NAW.

New Orleans has the contracts, but would be weird right after the Murray deal. Lillard and Lopez for McCollum, Ingram and a pick? Lillard-Murray-Murphy-HerbJones-Zion-Lopez is a nice fitting top 6, Milwaukee gets a McCollum-Middleton-Ingram-Giannis-Portis lineup, which is something new at least, and maybe they can move the pick and Connaughton for a 4 or 5?

Maybe this summer to the Nets, for some future picks, and they speed up the rebuild with Lillard-Thomas-CamJohnson-FinneySmith-Claxton and whoever they draft with their high lotto pick this year, like if they get Flagg they just go for it?

Orlando is the other I guess, something like Caldwell-Pope, Cole Anthony and then 12M more in salary (lots of options here) and a pick or 2. Let's say it's Carter Jr, then Orlando has Lillard-Suggs-Franz-Banchero-Goga starting and should still have a great bench (Black, Isaac, Da Silva, Mo Wagner). Not much for Milwauke here, but they could move the pick and Brook Lopez's expiring for a perimeter player (Ingram maybe, if you throw in some money and an Orlando pick) would give them Anthony-Middleton-Ingram-Giannis-CarterJr and KCP as 6th man, which might work?
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Re: Dame Time in South Beach 

Post#47 » by BBallFreak » Tue Nov 12, 2024 1:37 am

babyjax13 wrote:
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babyjax13 wrote:Wouldn't it be commons sense that Milwaukee, a team that wants to content, wouldn't trade Dame for Herro and/or Rozier as the centerpiece without significant compensation? Dame has been better than Butler this year and through their careers & is not expiring & is younger than Dame. If Miami wants him they'll have too give a good offer.


Wouldn't it be common sense that Miami, a team that wants to contend, wouldn't trade it's best playoff performer? There's no point to the trade without Jimmy. This is, at best, a lateral move. Dame is not the playoff performer that Butler is, and that contract isn't pretty. You think it's a positive that he's NOT expiring given his age and the money he's owed? I don't.

I didn't want Dame two years ago. Now you're telling me that we have to give up Jimmy for him? No thanks.

And it's Milwaukee that needs to shake things up, not Miami. We're a proven entity. At worst, we'll be a play-in team. Where's Milwaukee going? Not a shot at them, but they're the ones trying to figure it out. Let them go elsewhere if they don't want what we're offering. I don't think they'll find a lot of teams but they might find one. Good for them if they do, but Dame is looking like fools gold to me.

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Lillard is an amazing playoff performer. I get wanting to keep Butler (hence *if*), but there is very little reason for Milwaukee to do a deal otherwise, and if Miami doesn't want to put assets on the table then it should be very understandable while Milwaukee wouldn't proceed with a deal. Herro is fine, but there are so many guards who play bad to abysmal defense who can average something like 20-24ppg and 5apg on good percentages. Herro is - in my opinion - the best of that group, but if guys like Sexton and Simons would be available for a late first (I'd assume that is the cost to get those teams to easily move off of them) there is no reason to trade your second best player for Herro.

I don't really care about what they need. I don't want the guy in the first place. I get that he's a good player, but I don't want that contract or his age.
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Re: Dame Time in South Beach 

Post#48 » by Case2012 » Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:00 am

Getting ptsd from the Dame takes on here, "He hasn't looked good". 26,6.6,4.6 ts61.. Rivers is the problem. Dame should run the offense not Giannis, who should play more of a pnr type of game with Dame.
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Re: Dame Time in South Beach 

Post#49 » by gom » Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:06 am

Miami dodged the Dame bullet last season. I don't think round two is a great idea. Pass.
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Re: Dame Time in South Beach 

Post#50 » by They_Them_Hatin » Thu Nov 14, 2024 9:21 pm

Heat will overpay in draft compensation like they always do. If I’m the Bucks, I would just take whatever 1sts they have left and fillers and get rid of Dame. He's been Eeyore his whole stint. An addition by subtraction.

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