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Post#21 » by realEAST » Thu Jan 2, 2025 10:39 pm

ChettheJet wrote:What kind of saboteur broke into the Bulls offices? This is another oddball deal where they get older and still have Lavine and Vucevic. They end up staying 5-10 games under .500 don't get to 10th to keep their pick and maybe get to lose the play in game. Nothing smart about that

OK you put the Bulls as Out for the two picks they don't own so they actually get them. Big deal they have Phillips and Buzelis as young guys needing minutes, Sanogo and Lidell playing in the G League. And a whole bunch of veterans that are either under contract or younger guys nearing extension time. Why would they give up on Jalen Smith to get an ancient PJ Tucker who wouldn't play ahead of anybody and bring in Dwight Powell as the backup center?


I mean, Bulls can still deal LaVine and Vuc in separate deals (although LaVine imo is not that likely before the summer, while Vuc could or should be).

And losing Smith does make Bulls a bit worse too, as a step towards keeping that pick (it may be felt more than it seems, since he is only legit big behind Vucevic).

Yes, he is young, but is an expiring next year and likely not in a long term plan, and one of the 2nds coming back is a really early one, so it has value in a draft like this.
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Post#22 » by mg » Thu Jan 2, 2025 11:13 pm

Clips aren't trading their biggest movable salary for Kleber.
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Post#23 » by ejftw » Fri Jan 3, 2025 12:42 am

mg wrote:Clips aren't trading their biggest movable salary for Kleber.


Come deadline, and no other possibilities have come to fruition, I can def see the Clips doing this, esp if they can finagle a second back (or concurrently move Bones, Bamba or Porter, assuming the latter two are enough to get under the LT).

Maxi may not be as good as he used too, and is also always injured, but does give them an expiring ballast to use in the summer or next year for a move while giving 5 games of action this year :lol:

Wasn't gonna post the PoV of this Clips fan since I probably have a dozen or so times in various PJ/Kleber swaps, but that's about my take
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Post#24 » by Walton1one » Fri Jan 3, 2025 1:54 am

Pattycakes wrote:Um Banton is worth more than a second. Sorry


No he is not, a mid 25’ 2nd is fine. There is a reason he is 25 on his 3rd team playing on a non\partially guaranteed minimum contract
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Post#25 » by Diop » Fri Jan 3, 2025 2:51 am

HornetJail wrote:This trade has us moving from 31 + 34 to 23, which is fair on paper. Any chance we could sneak Nick Richards in here? surely one of these three teams could use the ~ 50th best center in the league?


if Chicago like our 2nds, something around Richards and the 2nds for Jalen Smith?
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Post#26 » by Myth » Fri Jan 3, 2025 3:11 am

Godaddycurse wrote:
JRoy wrote:Pass for POR.

Think we can do better.


you think banton can pull a 1st? better 2nd? more 2nds? what do you mean by better for a pending UFA like Banton

My take on Banton is he is tradable in one of these 3 scenarios:
1. As sweetener or for salary purposes in a larger deal
2. Multiple 2nds are offered for him
3. It is draft night and Blazers have a specific target in the 2nd round, then they should trade him for only 1 2nd. But don’t trade him for 1 2nd now and hope there is a target worth it.
Edit: I somehow didn’t know Banton was expiring. So 1 2nd is fine IF Portland has no plans to re-sign him. But if he is expected to remain cheap, I’m on board with Portland re-signing him over trading him for a 2nd.
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Post#27 » by Mavrelous » Fri Jan 3, 2025 7:41 am

Mavs would rather have an empty roster spot for buyout signing than Banton, and they don't have the extra roster spot to begin with, the 2nd that's going to the Blazers should go to the Clips.
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