MPJ for Monk, DeRozan

[Monky15]

Kings send Monk and DeRozan to Brooklyn for MPJ.

Kings move on from Kuminga and add shooting at a position of need.
Nets reduce guaranteed salary while splitting 1 larger asset into 2 smaller ones.
It should be easier to get some minor value from Monk or DeRozan for no other reason than having smaller salaries to match.

[bpcox05]

I like this for the Kings for many reasons but I feel like Scott Perry wouldn’t end up pulling the trigger on this.

Let’s look at the pros first…

- It saves the Kings some money this year to help them stay below the luxury tax
- Porter’s contract expires in 2 years which aligns with LaVine and Schroder’s deal (setting us up for ample cap space that offseason) and it shaves Monk’s 3rd year off the books helping even more with future cap space
- It rebalances the roster by sending out a guard (helping clear the log jam at guard) and swapping DeRozan for a legitimate PF
- Porter playing PF pushes Murray back to SF (what most Kings fans want to see)
- Porter is a good fit offensively next to Sabonis and can help keep the floor spaced to help Sabonis operate

Again, there is a lot to like from the Kings perspective. However, Scott Perry has talked about the type of players they want here and what he wants our identity to be. He’s repeated it multiple times. These are the attributes he continues to mention…

- Competitive
- Tough
- Team-Oriented
- Disciplined
- Accountable
- Professional

Does that sound like Michael Porter Jr.? I don’t think so but perhaps the trade is less about viewing Porter as a long term, core piece and more about the pros I mentioned above.

Personally, I’d do the trade, but I’m not convinced Scott Perry would.

[BK_2020]

The Nets don't really have any incentive to reduce guaranteed salary and they would have to cut a guy if they break up MPJ into Monk and DDR for no reason.

[longfellow44]

I like this for the Kings for many reasons but I feel like Scott Perry wouldn’t end up pulling the trigger on this.

Let’s look at the pros first…

- It saves the Kings some money this year to help them stay below the luxury tax
- Porter’s contract expires in 2 years which aligns with LaVine and Schroder’s deal (setting us up for ample cap space that offseason) and it shaves Monk’s 3rd year off the books helping even more with future cap space
- It rebalances the roster by sending out a guard (helping clear the log jam at guard) and swapping DeRozan for a legitimate PF
- Porter playing PF pushes Murray back to SF (what most Kings fans want to see)
- Porter is a good fit offensively next to Sabonis and can help keep the floor spaced to help Sabonis operate

Again, there is a lot to like from the Kings perspective. However, Scott Perry has talked about the type of players they want here and what he wants our identity to be. He’s repeated it multiple times. These are the attributes he continues to mention…

- Competitive
- Tough
- Team-Oriented
- Disciplined
- Accountable
- Professional

Does that sound like Michael Porter Jr.? I don’t think so but perhaps the trade is less about viewing Porter as a long term, core piece and more about the pros I mentioned above.

Personally, I’d do the trade, but I’m not convinced Scott Perry would.

I agree with all of this.

I like the fit but no way is perry trading derozan who he thinks fits his mold nearly perfectly for mpj who does not.

[HornetJail]

The Nets don't really have any incentive to reduce guaranteed salary and they would have to cut a guy if they break up MPJ into Monk and DDR for no reason.

which I think you have to do when Monk and DDR are objectively easier to trade to a playoff team for picks, compared to Porter

I refuse to believe the Nets don't have one player worth cutting

[One_and_Done]

Nets say no. They're better off with MPJ on every level. Watch them rehab his value and flip him in a few years.

[Thaddy]

The Kings are going to low key be pretty good. They have a lot of pros and they will figure it out. DeRozan, Lavine, Sabonis, and Monk is quite the core. Then Murray, Schroeder, and their recent picks could round it out well.

[sackings916]

The Kings are going to low key be pretty good. They have a lot of pros and they will figure it out. DeRozan, Lavine, Sabonis, and Monk is quite the core. Then Murray, Schroeder, and their recent picks could round it out well.

I think they’ll be one of the best offenses in the league. The defense on the other hand…

[GatherStepGuru]

MPJ has more value for the Nets than Monk and DDR at this point in their rebuild. I think hes gonna put up 20+ ppg this year.

[daoneandonly]

MPJ while risky is far better than both the Sac guys. We've seen the value of guys like Monk, its fairly low. Derozen is just flat out not good when factoring in everything

[nomansland]

Again, there is a lot to like from the Kings perspective. However, Scott Perry has talked about the type of players they want here and what he wants our identity to be. He’s repeated it multiple times. These are the attributes he continues to mention…

- Competitive
- Tough
- Team-Oriented
- Disciplined
- Accountable
- Professional

Does that sound like Michael Porter Jr.?

It kind of does sound like MPJ, to be honest. I'd say of all of these attributes he's the lowest on the disciplined scale, but he sacrificed a lot during his Denver years to be a team player. In the finals series when his shot wasn't falling he stepped up with assists and defense. He plays hard and owns up to his shortcomings. In the playoffs he played through a shoulder injury that would have sidelined 90% of the rest of the league. So he checks a lot of boxes when it comes to competitive, tough, team-oriented, accountable and professional.

What is not mentioned in this list is intelligence, and that's probably his biggest weakness. The guy is far from a basketball savant and needs to play with smart players and coaches if he's going to shine. In that sense I think he fits pretty well with Sabonis but I'm not so sure about LaVine. You'd have to tell me about that one.

This would be a pretty nice move for the Kings as far as I can tell.

On the Brooklyn side, maybe breaking Porter's deal into 2 separate, fairly tradeable players seems like a good idea since they're not winning anything with or without Porter and at least having some tradeable assets puts them in better shape 3-5 years from now.

[drchaos]

With the Nets looking to get up to the salary floor, perhaps Monk and DeRozan go to a third team and the Nets get either picks or a player with upside to keep.

[One_and_Done]

What is the Nets motivation here? They're tanking, and after a season with them to rehab his value MPJ will probably be more valuable than either/both Monk or Demar. Demar and Monk are also not players you want on either a tank team or a contender, so they have no value to a fairly well run team like the Nets.

[tcheco]

I can easily see DDR and Monk being easier to move for value than MPJ, considering the latter is the only one with injury risks. If the nets can find 2 teams to take on Monk and DDR for value(expiring and seconds for DDR and a lottery protected for Monk?) this would be done, but this seems like a trade deadline trade considering teams would be dealing with injuries or seeing players underperform and need a change.

[Billl]

I can easily see DDR and Monk being easier to move for value than MPJ, considering the latter is the only one with injury risks. If the nets can find 2 teams to take on Monk and DDR for value(expiring and seconds for DDR and a lottery protected for Monk?) this would be done, but this seems like a trade deadline trade considering teams would be dealing with injuries or seeing players underperform and need a change.

Wow, that's some strange valuation. Monk has been on the market for a while now and is pretty widely seen as a negative contract.

[LightTheBeam]

I can easily see DDR and Monk being easier to move for value than MPJ, considering the latter is the only one with injury risks. If the nets can find 2 teams to take on Monk and DDR for value(expiring and seconds for DDR and a lottery protected for Monk?) this would be done, but this seems like a trade deadline trade considering teams would be dealing with injuries or seeing players underperform and need a change.

I think the concept would be - Jordi played with Monk and had success with him. They'd keep him for a year and hope that the tide turns a bit on these types of players. Also might be helpful to try and move him with 1-2 years left rather than 3.

Demar would be a candidate to be moved at the deadline. Worst case they buy him out end of season for 10 million.

I'd add in 2 2nds from Sac's side to get Brooklyn some value.

Sac refuses to tank as they should, so adding MPJ at least gives them size and a shooter in the front court.

[sackings916]

I can easily see DDR and Monk being easier to move for value than MPJ, considering the latter is the only one with injury risks. If the nets can find 2 teams to take on Monk and DDR for value(expiring and seconds for DDR and a lottery protected for Monk?) this would be done, but this seems like a trade deadline trade considering teams would be dealing with injuries or seeing players underperform and need a change.

Wow, that's some strange valuation. Monk has been on the market for a while now and is pretty widely seen as a negative contract.

How would you know this? What kind of package has Scott Perry tried to get for Monk?

[tcheco]

I can easily see DDR and Monk being easier to move for value than MPJ, considering the latter is the only one with injury risks. If the nets can find 2 teams to take on Monk and DDR for value(expiring and seconds for DDR and a lottery protected for Monk?) this would be done, but this seems like a trade deadline trade considering teams would be dealing with injuries or seeing players underperform and need a change.

Wow, that's some strange valuation. Monk has been on the market for a while now and is pretty widely seen as a negative contract.

Never heard anything about what package was offered or what has the Kings asked for, Monk always played his minutes and I do think he is positive and play his part, all I know for certain is that Kings are not willing to trade him for peanuts. Sure he wont net unprotected picks, but I do think his contract is not negative.

What people see here in the forum seldom reflects reality honestly

[sackings916]

I can easily see DDR and Monk being easier to move for value than MPJ, considering the latter is the only one with injury risks. If the nets can find 2 teams to take on Monk and DDR for value(expiring and seconds for DDR and a lottery protected for Monk?) this would be done, but this seems like a trade deadline trade considering teams would be dealing with injuries or seeing players underperform and need a change.

Wow, that's some strange valuation. Monk has been on the market for a while now and is pretty widely seen as a negative contract.

Never heard anything about what package was offered or what has the Kings asked for, Monk always played his minutes and I do think he is positive and play his part, all I know for certain is that Kings are not willing to trade him for peanuts. Sure he wont net unprotected picks, but I do think his contract is not negative.

What people see here in the forum seldom reflects reality honestly

This. Not every tweet or article is reality. They are often inaccurate or missing context.