Ben Simmons for No. 1 Pick

[HotelVitale]

76ers leverage is small to none right now. Getting him for 5-10 draft pick range seems fair right now.

So a team who has no desire to trade a player has no leverage when they don't trade him. Makes about as much sense as preferring a #10 pick to Ben Simmons because Simmons doesn't have NBA experience.

Ben Simmons went on HBO and claimed college was waste of time after his college year was over.

C'mon now, bh, grow up. Most one-and-dones spend next to no time on their academics since they have any viable and extremely lucrative and exciting career path. Shaq and Barkley shout that to the rooftops all the time, and as a college teacher I can also tell you that's true of many D1 student-athletes in the big sports (even those who don't have realistic pro prospects). And if you don't understand the very legit argument against the NCAA's use of 'student-athletes' then you probably shouldn't be having this discussion.

In any case, Simmons' saying the NCAA is screwed up isn't a red flag in anyone's book aside from old school marms who think everyone should always be respectful of any authority no matter what. It's definitely not going to discount his value or make him seem like some sort of crazy diva who will never listen to his coach because he expresses his thoughts in a calm manner. (Incidentally, I'm really sorry your team didn't get the #1 pick last year, unfortunately only one team can get it. Better luck this year.)

[Ballerhogger]

So a team who has no desire to trade a player has no leverage when they don't trade him. Makes about as much sense as preferring a #10 pick to Ben Simmons because Simmons doesn't have NBA experience.

Ben Simmons went on HBO and claimed college was waste of time after his college year was over. The 76ers are not in a good trading place right now , if they want to get rid of him because of his injury .. They can , but execpt low ball offers as of now. 5-10 draft pick range is genrious provided they take some salary back. He has injury and hes never stepped on nba court . Not a good selling point but you can get around it , if you dont want him anymore.

Welcome to a hypothetical discussion. The Sixers aren't trading him, the OP is throwing out a fictional scenario to discuss poster's preferences on players (all of whom have yet to play an NBA game). Leverage does not exist since there is not an actual trade discussion happening.

Why would risk so much for damaged player. Am i suppose to ingore his college tenure? Why? Its all apart of being a GM for a day discussion.

[NashtyNas]

Also, it's amazing how quickly people write off someone because of missing a season. Just forgetting that this guy was compared to Magic freaking Johnson. Potential reazlied, are you taking Magic Johnson or James Harden? You're taking the 6"10 HOF PG.

If we're throwing out ridiculous comparisons today, Simmons looks like he'll be closer to Rondo or Rubio than Magic - he can't shoot worth a lick outside of 2 feet.

Realistically, no team is giving up Fultz or Ball for Simmons given that injury and the fact that those 2 are slated as the 1/2 in a vastly superior draft than Simmons'. Any team that gets #1 overall, even if they already have a point (ie. BOS) will want actual incentive WITH Simmons to get a deal done.

Keeping that in mind, there is no way a deal happens because Philly will not include incentive (rightfully so) to get a deal done.

[kriss73]

These are really 2 questions in one.

1. Would the Sixers trade Simmons for the #1? The answer is no for two reasons:

a) They really liked/like Simmons
b) Simmons wasn't in a bed all year long. Our coaches spent a whole year to try developing his shot and to teach him the PG duties.
So there is no incentive to waste a year of developing unless something unknown.

2. Is Simmons' trade value equal to the 2017 #1 pick?

I think the answer is no, because he has one less year on his rookie contract and he lost his first year injured.
The only pro would be if a GM likes Simmons more than Ball/Fultz.

At the end of the day, I hope this will be the same situation of Blake Griffin: he was injured his first year, so was he worth John Wall (#1 2010) in March 2010?
Maybe not at that time, but I think both the Clippers and the Wizard are satisfacted with their own guy.

[eitanr]

I put out the scenario as a Celtics fan because the up coming draft both excites scares me.

I'm likely of the minority of celts fans, but I think if you are a 2 seed u don't want to do a major over haul for the hopes of getting better. You want to incrementally improve. Meaning you are just adding talent to the core, but not diminishing roles and changing your style.

My fear with ball in particular, as much as I like him, is you need to adapt your roster around him to be successful. To be effective he probably needs a decent usage right and be somewhat ball dominant. He seems like an in btwn of rondo and Kidd in that regard. While those are exciting comps, the Celtics have an mvp candidate pg and an up and coming defensive stalwart at the slot in smart. Ensuring ball will he effective means more off the ball for Thomas and a diminished role for smart. So while you upgrade with ball you are likely downgrading the output of 2 other crucial players. Net net it's not as much as a positive as other scenarios.

Meanwhile adding Simmons solves a major need - a do it all 4. The boston PGS can continue their progression seamlessly while boston improves drastically in an area of need.