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[chrbal]

Does anyone else think with this weak free agent class that Chris Paul could opt out?

No
$44,211,146. What team is going to come close to that?

Could he opt out and sign/re-sign a new 2 year deal for $70m total, $35m per year? It’d net him an extra/new $26m for his age 35 season, which sounds pretty good.

He’d basically have to sign a 2 year deal to avoid Over-38 restrictions, which might make a longer deal (3/$90m total?) tough to do.

Ok this makes it make sense

[NYG]

Does anyone else think with this weak free agent class that Chris Paul could opt out?

No
$44,211,146. What team is going to come close to that?

Could he opt out and sign/re-sign a new 2 year deal for $70m total, $35m per year? It’d net him an extra/new $26m for his age 35 season, which sounds pretty good.

He’d basically have to sign a 2 year deal to avoid Over-38 restrictions, which might make a longer deal (3/$90m total?) tough to do.

I would sign CP3 to that deal as the Knicks honestly and I’m sure Leon Rose still has the back channel connections to Paul to arrange the deal before he opts out and still have $15 Million to bring guys back or sign someone else. I think adding Paul on a 2 year deal would be just what Randle, Robinson and Barrett need to get to the next level and Thibs would love him.

[jayjaysee]

Does anyone else think with this weak free agent class that Chris Paul could opt out?

No
$44,211,146. What team is going to come close to that?

Could he opt out and sign/re-sign a new 2 year deal for $70m total, $35m per year? It’d net him an extra/new $26m for his age 35 season, which sounds pretty good.

He’d basically have to sign a 2 year deal to avoid Over-38 restrictions, which might make a longer deal (3/$90m total?) tough to do.

I’ll never question Paul’s impact. Chuck made me a huge fan of adding him to Dallas last year.

But with Ayton and Bridges due to be paid that year. I think Phoenix hopes CP agrees to a cheaper deal after they pay next years big money.

Maybe it doesn’t work out, but can’t see Sarver signing up for 35 to Paul, 31 to Book, 28 to Ayton, and whatever Bridges commands.

But yes I think someone would give him 2ur70 mil this offseason.

[NYG]

If the Suns want a TPE, we could send back Knox in a sign and trade creating a huge TPE.

The Knicks could pay Paul 2/73 starting at $36 Million, keep the cap holds of Rose, Burks and Bullock plus the salaries of their own and Dallas’ first rounders while keeping Robinson, Barrett, Toppin, Quickley, Randle and still would have their cap MLE.

[Texas Chuck]

No
$44,211,146. What team is going to come close to that?

Could he opt out and sign/re-sign a new 2 year deal for $70m total, $35m per year? It’d net him an extra/new $26m for his age 35 season, which sounds pretty good.

He’d basically have to sign a 2 year deal to avoid Over-38 restrictions, which might make a longer deal (3/$90m total?) tough to do.

I’ll never question Paul’s impact. Chuck made me a huge fan of adding him to Dallas last year.

But with Ayton and Bridges due to be paid that year. I think Phoenix hopes CP agrees to a cheaper deal after they pay next years big money.

Maybe it doesn’t work out, but can’t see Sarver signing up for 35 to Paul, 31 to Book, 28 to Ayton, and whatever Bridges commands.

But yes I think someone would give him 2ur70 mil this offseason.

Yeah the Suns should be talking to him now about his next contract with next year effectively being a front-loaded year to save them some money in future year(s).

And I think the answer to the money crunch might be moving on from Ayton if his number is going to get that high. He seems like the 4th most important guy to their mix. Obviously Paul's got a limited shelf-life but I'm not at all convinced the younger core is ready to fly without him. I think were he to opt out and walk this year they join that gaggle of teams fighting for the last couple spots.

[NYG]

Could he opt out and sign/re-sign a new 2 year deal for $70m total, $35m per year? It’d net him an extra/new $26m for his age 35 season, which sounds pretty good.

He’d basically have to sign a 2 year deal to avoid Over-38 restrictions, which might make a longer deal (3/$90m total?) tough to do.

I’ll never question Paul’s impact. Chuck made me a huge fan of adding him to Dallas last year.

But with Ayton and Bridges due to be paid that year. I think Phoenix hopes CP agrees to a cheaper deal after they pay next years big money.

Maybe it doesn’t work out, but can’t see Sarver signing up for 35 to Paul, 31 to Book, 28 to Ayton, and whatever Bridges commands.

But yes I think someone would give him 2ur70 mil this offseason.

Yeah the Suns should be talking to him now about his next contract with next year effectively being a front-loaded year to save them some money in future year(s).

And I think the answer to the money crunch might be moving on from Ayton if his number is going to get that high. He seems like the 4th most important guy to their mix. Obviously Paul's got a limited shelf-life but I'm not at all convinced the younger core is ready to fly without him. I think were he to opt out and walk this year they join that gaggle of teams fighting for the last couple spots.

What if it’s as simple as he wants to play in NY or play with Luka in Dallas and kind of knows going into the off-season what kind of deal he’s looking at from that team before opting out. I bet he has a number where he prefers a 2 year deal where he wants to play at this point of his career versus a bigger 1 year deal somewhere he doesn’t want to be. I’m not saying he wants out of Phoenix by any means, I have no clue. What I mean is in the case Paul opts out it’s because he generally knows his next team and contract beforehand.

[Texas Chuck]

What if it’s as simple as he wants to play in NY or play with Luka in Dallas and kind of knows going into the off-season what kind of deal he’s looking at from that team before opting out. I bet he has a number where he prefers a 2 year deal where he wants to play at this point of his career versus a bigger 1 year deal somewhere he doesn’t want to be. I’m not saying he wants out of Phoenix by any means, I have no clue. What I mean is in the case Paul opts out it’s because he generally knows his next team and contract beforehand.

Oh its definitely possible he does something like that. I'd have New York much more likely than Dallas. Maybe Miami more likely than either.

But if I'm Phoenix I'm definitely trying to have extension talks and using that first big year to their advantage.

[zimpy27]

Darius Miller waived, does he have anything left?

[ThunderBolt]

Darius Miller waived, does he have anything left?

He played very little but enough to show he can shoot.

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[Texas Chuck]

ah yes the double draft, this board's epic white whale

[MoneyTalks41890]

ah yes the double draft, this board's epic white whale

Wait so 2022 2nds aren't worth more than lotto picks anymore?

[HartfordWhalers]

ah yes the double draft, this board's epic white whale

Wait so 2022 2nds aren't worth more than lotto picks anymore?

Nah they still are. See, every freshman, sophomore and junior is going to declare before they get screwed by the double draft, so the quality will be higher.

[HartfordWhalers]

Did anyone mention McCaw yet?

[HartfordWhalers]

Also, there looks like there will be some really big positional battles in lotto spots 4-8.

I would expect a lot of 'injuries', and fast.

[MoneyTalks41890]

Did anyone mention McCaw yet?

You have now.

Also, I don't think anyone has mentioned OKC's signings explicitly.

OKC signed Gabriel Deck from Real Madrid to a three year deal which has roused the Argentinian basketball folks.

https://www.si.com/nba/thunder/news/report-thunder-to-sign-real-madrids-gabriel-deck

OKC also signed Micic to come on board for next year.

https://www.welcometoloudcity.com/2021/4/9/22375187/vasilije-micic-will-join-the-thunder-next-season

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[MoneyTalks41890]

Also, there looks like there will be some really big positional battles in lotto spots 4-8.

I would expect a lot of 'injuries', and fast.

OKC 2.5 games back from Orlando at 4, it will be interesting to see if the league does anything when the rest of the floor product starts to look like what OKC is putting out there.

[Texas Chuck]

So there have been 41 high schoolers selected in the NBA Draft, 2 in 1975 and then 39 from 95-2005.

This netted 1 GOAT candidate: Lebron
2 all-timers: KG and Kobe
4 additional stars: TMac, Amare, Jermaine O'Neal, Dwight Howard
Rashard Lewis and Tyson Chandler the best of the rest which include some solid but not spectacular players like Monta, Al Jefferson, Perkins, Diop, DeShawn, CJ Miles, Josh and JR Smith, etc...
Then a number of total busts or near as--your Swift, Leon Smith, Telfair, Lang etc...

The hype ration of high schoolers has been out of wack. Less than 4 were taken on average in the 11 years this was a thing. 4. So that deepens the draft very little. Sure it helps the top of the draft, but by the end of the lottery the draft pool of a double draft is likely as shallow as ever.

The added value to a double draft was always only at the top despite the hysterics here about late 2nds being super valuable. Helps sometimes to look at the actual numbers.

[HartfordWhalers]

OKC also signed Micic to come on board for next year.

Not quite.

Micic picked not to stay signed in Europe (for now). He could sign next offseason for the Thunder. Or could use the Thunder as leverage and sign a new deal in Europe.

Given how his season has gone, I would have done what he did and become a free agent even if I intended to stay there. But the report does say he intends to sign a 2 year deal next year with OKC, for what that is worth. Will be interesting to see if they really have parameters agreed to now.