Enes Kanter Wants To Be Traded. Offers?

[Walmart]

I wouldn't want mini-Brook on my team either unless it's on the cheap.

[Pure_Basketball]

I've been really high on Kanter since he was drafted. I've wanted Miami to trade for him for years, and when he finally requests a trade Miami have had whiteside fall Into their lap. I'd say pursue him anyway and have him backup the 4/5 spot in Miami but he wouldn't like that.
Bosh + 2017 1st for Kanter + Hayward
Luol Deng for Goran Dragic
Dragic / Wade / Hayward / Kanter / Whiteside

[Morris_Shatford]

Damn.
Given the fact that he is an RFA and likely due for a significant raise I am pretty darn impressed with the value he seems to have around the league.

I was coming in here to float Vasquez + Ross for Kanter + Burke but people are tossing first around which I can't imagine Toronto would do given the fact that Val is the five the Raps will roll with

[bondom34]

Damn.
Given the fact that he is an RFA and likely due for a significant raise I am pretty darn impressed with the value he seems to have around the league.

I was coming in here to float Vasquez + Ross for Kanter + Burke but people are tossing first around which I can't imagine Toronto would do given the fact that Val is the five the Raps will roll with

He doesn't have the value of most of these deals. In honesty, there's a reason he hasn't been traded.

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I've been really high on Kanter since he was drafted. I've wanted Miami to trade for him for years, and when he finally requests a trade Miami have had whiteside fall Into their lap. I'd say pursue him anyway and have him backup the 4/5 spot in Miami but he wouldn't like that.
Bosh + 2017 1st for Kanter + Hayward
Luol Deng for Goran Dragic
Dragic / Wade / Hayward / Kanter / Whiteside

I wouldn't trade Hayward alone for Bosh and 2017 first... You have absolutely nothing on your roster that will get you Hayward. Declining stars on max contracts, thanks but no thanks...

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Damn.
Given the fact that he is an RFA and likely due for a significant raise I am pretty darn impressed with the value he seems to have around the league.

I was coming in here to float Vasquez + Ross for Kanter + Burke but people are tossing first around which I can't imagine Toronto would do given the fact that Val is the five the Raps will roll with

Some of those trades are more than I expected too, but are somewhat fair if your team needs lowpost scoring and rebounding.

But honestly, why are you offering Vazquez and Ross? Because you deem them completely useless in the long term, that's why. Neither defends, neither is particularly effective scorer, neither does much in way of creating offense. Ross doesn't pass. Because you think you can spend those money in a better way and want to unload 10 m in salaries. I'm sick of proposed trades where people come to offer their junk pieces and want to get a potential long-term starter. Kanter is a potential 20-10 big and if you manage to hide him in defense he can be really useful to some teams. He is a flawed played, but he can legitimately be a starter in the NBA for 10+ years...

[babyjax13]

Isaiah Thomas, Miles Plumlee and 2015 protected 1st rd pick for Kanter.

I wouldn't be opposed to this. Good value. Obviously would rather push and see if there was a way to get Bledsoe, but that probably won't happen.

[Who-rod]

I see a lot of non Jazz GM's in here that would be looking for work in a hurry with these offers. Nothing is going to suddenly make Kanter even adequate at defense, so you better have an established top flight PF defender already on the team to pick up the slack. Outside of OKC, I don't see a team that does.

[babyjax13]

There are some decent offers in here, and some really, really crappy ones. Utah isn't going to trade him for pennies, he is an RFA.

[Morris_Shatford]

But honestly, why are you offering Vazquez and Ross? Because you deem them completely useless in the long term, that's why. Neither defends, neither is particularly effective scorer, neither does much in way of creating offense. Ross doesn't pass.

Actually I am one of the few Pro-Ross folks within Raptor Nation;

I am confident that outside the system in a new environment where he can play his primary position he has a good shot of being the 3D player most of us within Raptor-nation felt he could become last season and more importantly he is a cheap rotational player for the next season. As for Vasquez, he was included solely because I needed salary ballast and you guys seemingly need a PG more than an expiring.

Because you think you can spend those money in a better way and want to unload 10 m in salaries.

This is bang on but not for the reason you noted and a major reason why I don't value Kanter as high as most folks seemingly do,
I don't want to spend the sort of money he is going to secure this summer, dealing for Kanter likely means a 4/40 commitment this summer to be a back-up or the willingness to deal for him as a win now piece.

I'm sick of proposed trades where people come to offer their junk pieces and want to get a potential long-term starter. Kanter is a potential 20-10 big and if you manage to hide him in defense he can be really useful to some teams. He is a flawed played, but he can legitimately be a starter in the NBA for 10+ years...

Yeah he has the "potential" but not the result and the problem is whatever team trades for him will likely be paying for that potential this off-season after having 29 games to evaluate him within and that's assume some team doesn't go off the rails July 10th after striking out elsewhere and tosses him a horrid offer sheet which you are stuck matching and living with or losing him for nothing over.

Could he be a legit starter in the NBA for 10+ Seasons?
Sure, but there is a lot of risk in trading for him.

As I said above, I am floored that folks are offering picks and legit prospects for a guy who is going to get paid in a few months or potentially get hijacked with a strong offer sheet and if the Jazz can get picks and prospects good on them!

[Morris_Shatford]

Just for my information;
Anyone care to float a guess as to what Kanter ends up getting contract wise this summer?

[loserX]

Just for my information;
Anyone care to float a guess as to what Kanter ends up getting contract wise this summer?

I did this thread, although it is almost a month old now:
viewtopic.php?t=1366976

[Morris_Shatford]

Just for my information;
Anyone care to float a guess as to what Kanter ends up getting contract wise this summer?

I did this thread, although it is almost a month old now:
viewtopic.php?t=1366976

Seems like the majority was in the 8m-10m camp;

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Just for my information;
Anyone care to float a guess as to what Kanter ends up getting contract wise this summer?

If I had to guess it would be something around 10-12M. And yes, this indeed is the biggest unknown about Kanter right now and probably one of the reasons we will get below market value, because people won't be willing to give up real assets for a player who might get an offer too big to match in the summer. But in case your team is sold on Kanter as a long-term prospect and is willing to pay in the summer, you probably will get a good deal.

In all fairness, I'd be willing to deal him for a mid-late first rounder + some filler(expiring). Or for some veteran who can be useful to the Jazz next year. Do you like Patterson? Would you be willing to give him up for Kanter? I think something like that would be fair...

[AingesBurner]

I've been really high on Kanter since he was drafted. I've wanted Miami to trade for him for years, and when he finally requests a trade Miami have had whiteside fall Into their lap. I'd say pursue him anyway and have him backup the 4/5 spot in Miami but he wouldn't like that.
Bosh + 2017 1st for Kanter + Hayward
Luol Deng for Goran Dragic
Dragic / Wade / Hayward / Kanter / Whiteside

Yeah bosh does not have that value.

[Morris_Shatford]

Just for my information;
Anyone care to float a guess as to what Kanter ends up getting contract wise this summer?

If I had to guess it would be something around 10-12M. And yes, this indeed is the biggest unknown about Kanter right now and probably one of the reasons we will get below market value, because people won't be willing to give up real assets for a player who might get an offer too big to match in the summer. But in case your team is sold on Kanter as a long-term prospect and is willing to pay in the summer, you probably will get a good deal.

In all fairness, I'd be willing to deal him for a mid-late first rounder + some filler(expiring). Or for some veteran who can be useful to the Jazz next year. Do you like Patterson? Would you be willing to give him up for Kanter? I think something like that would be fair...

On that we agree 100%;
If the goal of a team dealing for him is to trade for Kanter with the understanding that you will be paying 5/50 or 5/60 to keep him and you will match almost any offer, I would imagine those are the teams who are going to offer up the most scratch.

The Raps need rebounding something which Kanter provides in spades and they can park him between Johnson & Johnson as an off the bench option to mask some of his defensive issues its an appealing option, if an expiring and a 1st got it done I would do Fields and the Raps own 2015 in a heartbeat with the understanding he is likely gone this summer, but I honestly felt Ross would be a better piece for you guys long term than some late 1st rounder but you know your squad and direction better than I.

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Just for my information;
Anyone care to float a guess as to what Kanter ends up getting contract wise this summer?

If I had to guess it would be something around 10-12M. And yes, this indeed is the biggest unknown about Kanter right now and probably one of the reasons we will get below market value, because people won't be willing to give up real assets for a player who might get an offer too big to match in the summer. But in case your team is sold on Kanter as a long-term prospect and is willing to pay in the summer, you probably will get a good deal.

In all fairness, I'd be willing to deal him for a mid-late first rounder + some filler(expiring). Or for some veteran who can be useful to the Jazz next year. Do you like Patterson? Would you be willing to give him up for Kanter? I think something like that would be fair...

On that we agree 100%;
If the goal of a team dealing for him is to trade for Kanter with the understanding that you will be paying 5/50 or 5/60 to keep him and you will match almost any offer, I would imagine those are the teams who are going to offer up the most scratch.

The Raps need rebounding something which Kanter provides in spades and they can park him between Johnson & Johnson as an off the bench option to mask some of his defensive issues its an appealing option, if an expiring and a 1st got it done I would do Fields and the Raps own 2015 in a heartbeat with the understanding he is likely gone this summer, but I honestly felt Ross would be a better piece for you guys long term than some late 1st rounder but you know your squad and direction better than I.

Yah, it's possible that our FO values Ross better than a late first rounder. I'm actually not as down on him as I probably lead you to believe in the first post. He's not that bad, but I honestly don't see him as a starting piece down the road.

[Morris_Shatford]

Yah, it's possible that our FO values Ross better than a late first rounder. I'm actually not as down on him as I probably lead you to believe in the first post. He's not that bad, but I honestly don't see him as a starting piece down the road.

My thought with Ross was simply a nice option at the two this season and a cheap evaluation year next season as the off the bench guy behind Burks or Hayward.

However, if Fields and a 1st will do it just convince Denver to do Ross + Hayes for Chandler and a PG and we have a deal

[gonzo]

Isaiah Thomas, Miles Plumlee and 2015 protected 1st rd pick for Kanter.

This. All day long.

[KqWIN]

Just for my information;
Anyone care to float a guess as to what Kanter ends up getting contract wise this summer?

zero offers. He will take the qualifying offer.