Least desirable trade destination

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What is the least desirable trade location?

Utah
43
24%
Charlotte
23
13%
Minnesota
14
8%
Memphis
15
8%
OKC
14
8%
Portland
18
10%
Cleveland
12
7%
Toronto
22
12%
Milwaukee
9
5%
Other
10
6%
 
Total votes: 180

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Re: Least desirable trade destination 

Post#81 » by One_and_Done » Tue Oct 14, 2025 8:56 pm

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SkyHook wrote: Which is also case-in-point as to why our personal assessments mean close to nothing in terms of the preferences of the majority of NBA players.


This is really the bottom line. We also make way too many assumptions about what rich young athletes want. Sure many do want LA, NY, Miami. But many quite famously do not. And the cities being named itt as the worst would be among my personal favorites and I would hate the big 3 above. But its not about me.

But I also think this thread failed to explore terrible management first. I'd think my little Mavs moved from a top ten destination to maybe a bottom ten destination with this new regime in place of Cuban/Nelson/Carlisle. I think the Kings are going to be at the bottom not because of Sacramento but because of decades of incompetence. There is a reason they struggle to get the best prospects to work out there that other similar markets don't. Same with the Hornets. They inspire zero confidence. That stuff matters to players.

I'll confess that Charlotte was in my top 3, and that is 100% why.

Terrible management and ownership was deliberately scoped out of the thread. It wasn't an accidental omission.
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Re: Least desirable trade destination 

Post#82 » by Texas Chuck » Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:06 pm

yeah but its a big omission. And if you think you are getting somewhere while ignoring a huge factor....
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Re: Least desirable trade destination 

Post#83 » by One_and_Done » Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:43 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:yeah but its a big omission. And if you think you are getting somewhere while ignoring a huge factor....

It's no more an omission than when a thread asks 'who is the best 3pt shooter?' It's not purporting to measure anything else.
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Re: Least desirable trade destination 

Post#84 » by Texas Chuck » Tue Oct 14, 2025 10:01 pm

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Texas Chuck wrote:yeah but its a big omission. And if you think you are getting somewhere while ignoring a huge factor....

It's no more an omission than when a thread asks 'who is the best 3pt shooter?' It's not purporting to measure anything else.

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If we ignore management your thread is just which NBA city is the worst which isn't a good topic for this board. But if that is your intent, let me know and I'll move this topic to the GB where it belongs.

Because its not just the city that makes for a good or bad trade destination which is what you labeled this thread.
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Re: Least desirable trade destination 

Post#85 » by cucad8 » Tue Oct 14, 2025 10:14 pm

Texas Chuck wrote: We also make way too many assumptions about what rich young athletes want.

Yeah, it feels like a tired trope at this point that all rich young black men want are clubs and strippers and booze. I'm sure there's still plenty that do. But always seems to be what stuff like this boils down to.
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Post#86 » by bkohler » Tue Oct 14, 2025 10:28 pm

I also think we do a poor job in realizing that there’s a wide difference in what an early 20s player wants and a late 20s player wants. Some markets are going to very appealing the first few years, but other markets are going to be more appealing as they settle down and trend towards retirement.

I suppose it’s more like our own situations than we realize. Family, future prospects, taxes and even housing costs probably factor into where they want to play along with management, coaching and other opportunities.

All of that said I really think there’s only like 2-3 markets that are real draws then 20-25 that are neutral and another 5ish that are negatives.
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Re: Least desirable trade destination 

Post#87 » by One_and_Done » Wed Oct 15, 2025 12:06 am

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Texas Chuck wrote:yeah but its a big omission. And if you think you are getting somewhere while ignoring a huge factor....

It's no more an omission than when a thread asks 'who is the best 3pt shooter?' It's not purporting to measure anything else.

'
If we ignore management your thread is just which NBA city is the worst which isn't a good topic for this board. But if that is your intent, let me know and I'll move this topic to the GB where it belongs.

Because its not just the city that makes for a good or bad trade destination which is what you labeled this thread.

I mean, feel free to move it, though I don't agree that focusing on one aspect of the desirability of a trade location somehow makes it more or less relevant to this board.
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Re: Least desirable trade destination 

Post#88 » by shrink » Wed Oct 15, 2025 12:05 pm

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SkyHook wrote: Which is also case-in-point as to why our personal assessments mean close to nothing in terms of the preferences of the majority of NBA players.

This is really the bottom line. We also make way too many assumptions about what rich young athletes want. Sure many do want LA, NY, Miami. But many quite famously do not. And the cities being named itt as the worst would be among my personal favorites and I would hate the big 3 above. But it’s not about me.

Yes. I think the way to attack the problem is direct information.

Which teams have historically attracted the best free agents? Which have not?

That is exactly the choice of the rich young athletes.
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Re: Least desirable trade destination 

Post#89 » by One_and_Done » Thu Oct 16, 2025 9:22 pm

shrink wrote:
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SkyHook wrote: Which is also case-in-point as to why our personal assessments mean close to nothing in terms of the preferences of the majority of NBA players.

This is really the bottom line. We also make way too many assumptions about what rich young athletes want. Sure many do want LA, NY, Miami. But many quite famously do not. And the cities being named itt as the worst would be among my personal favorites and I would hate the big 3 above. But it’s not about me.

Yes. I think the way to attack the problem is direct information.

Which teams have historically attracted the best free agents? Which have not?

That is exactly the choice of the rich young athletes.

That certainly gives us alot of insight into which cities are seem as the best trade destinations by players. We've never seen a guy demand a trade to say Utah, or Memphis, or Toronto.
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Re: Least desirable trade destination 

Post#90 » by brackdan70 » Fri Oct 17, 2025 12:39 am

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Texas Chuck wrote: We also make way too many assumptions about what rich young athletes want.

Yeah, it feels like a tired trope at this point that all rich young black men want are clubs and strippers and booze. I'm sure there's still plenty that do. But always seems to be what stuff like this boils down to.

Some Poor, old, white dudes like those things too.
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Re: Least desirable trade destination 

Post#91 » by penbeast0 » Fri Oct 17, 2025 2:07 am

cucad8 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote: We also make way too many assumptions about what rich young athletes want.

Yeah, it feels like a tired trope at this point that all rich young black men want are clubs and strippers and booze. I'm sure there's still plenty that do. But always seems to be what stuff like this boils down to.


I've always wondered why top foreign players don't seem to be attracted to markets with strong cultural ties to their areas or (mainly for me) attracted to a market like Washington DC with its international ties.
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Re: Least desirable trade destination 

Post#92 » by cucad8 » Fri Oct 17, 2025 3:10 pm

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cucad8 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote: We also make way too many assumptions about what rich young athletes want.

Yeah, it feels like a tired trope at this point that all rich young black men want are clubs and strippers and booze. I'm sure there's still plenty that do. But always seems to be what stuff like this boils down to.


I've always wondered why top foreign players don't seem to be attracted to markets with strong cultural ties to their areas or (mainly for me) attracted to a market like Washington DC with its international ties.

Portland "famously"(locally) lost Hedo to Toronto because his wife liked the Turkish culture there over our lack of one here.
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Re: Least desirable trade destination 

Post#93 » by penbeast0 » Fri Oct 17, 2025 3:33 pm

Nice, hadn't heard that one before, thanks!
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Re: Least desirable trade destination 

Post#94 » by JRoy » Fri Oct 17, 2025 6:13 pm

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penbeast0 wrote:
cucad8 wrote:Yeah, it feels like a tired trope at this point that all rich young black men want are clubs and strippers and booze. I'm sure there's still plenty that do. But always seems to be what stuff like this boils down to.


I've always wondered why top foreign players don't seem to be attracted to markets with strong cultural ties to their areas or (mainly for me) attracted to a market like Washington DC with its international ties.

Portland "famously"(locally) lost Hedo to Toronto because his wife liked the Turkish culture there over our lack of one here.


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