What can Russel + #29 get for the Nets?

Prokorov · Post #1 » by **Prokorov** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:18 pm

What pick could Russell + 29 get in this draft?

Bulls #22?

Atlanta #19?

Bucks #17?

Clipeprs #12 or #13?

A move would get the nets a better pick and clear 21 million in cap room for next offseason (bringing the total to 60-65 million)

babyjax13 · Post #2 » by **babyjax13** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:22 pm

Bucks at 17 seems as high as it could get you to me.

Woody Allen · Post #3 » by **Woody Allen** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:24 pm

The issue that is Dangelo Russell's season didn't make any teams go "we need this guy!", due to both injury and really poor efficiency. Assuming ATL, for example, have a player at #19 that they like, they are not going to forgo it to acquire Russell. They'd only do it if all of their targets are gone, so this is a bit unlikely.

Prokorov · Post #4 » by **Prokorov** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:25 pm

babyjax13 wrote:Bucks at 17 seems as high as it could get you to me.

that would work. 21M in cap and the 17 pick. id do that

Woody Allen · Post #5 » by **Woody Allen** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:28 pm

Prokorov wrote:A move would get the nets a better pick and clear 21 million in cap room for next offseason (bringing the total to 60-65 million)

??? D'Angelo doesn't have any guaranteed salary for 2019/20. He has a QO that is completely discretionary.

Post #6 » by **jbk1234** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:28 pm

Atlanta. I think Brogdon is better than Russel.

TheBrooklynKidd · Post #7 » by **TheBrooklynKidd** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:30 pm

Woody Allen wrote:
Prokorov wrote:A move would get the nets a better pick and clear 21 million in cap room for next offseason (bringing the total to 60-65 million)

??? D'Angelo doesn't have any guaranteed salary for 2019/20. He has a QO that is completely discretionary.

His cap hold is $21 million.

babyjax13 · Post #8 » by **babyjax13** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:57 pm

jbk1234 wrote:Atlanta. I think Brogdon is better than Russel.

I think Brogdon and Russel would actually be a really nice pairing.

Russel-Brogdon-Middleton-Giannis-Henson is an interesting lineup. Better if they can swap Parker for a good center (Favors comes to mind immediately).

Woody Allen · Post #9 » by **Woody Allen** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:01 pm

TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
Woody Allen wrote:
Prokorov wrote:A move would get the nets a better pick and clear 21 million in cap room for next offseason (bringing the total to 60-65 million)

??? D'Angelo doesn't have any guaranteed salary for 2019/20. He has a QO that is completely discretionary.

His cap hold is $21 million.

You can renounce it. Trading him isn't necessary. OP says trade would 'clear 21 million in cap room for next offseason'.

Prokorov · Post #10 » by **Prokorov** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:08 pm

Woody Allen wrote:
TheBrooklynKidd wrote:
Woody Allen wrote:
??? D'Angelo doesn't have any guaranteed salary for 2019/20. He has a QO that is completely discretionary.

His cap hold is $21 million.

You can renounce it. Trading him isn't necessary. OP says trade would 'clear 21 million in cap room for next offseason'.

it would clear the cap hold.

getting a draft pick for him > renouncing him is the mindset

Post #11 » by **Trader_Joe** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:10 pm

How about what could Russell, RHJ + $6m in cap get us of picks/future picks/rookie deal contracts + expiring contracts?
I think we could take back up $15.5m or so in that scenario.

Goal would be

Dinwiddie ($1.6m cap hold)
LeVert ($2.6m)
Crabbe ($18.5)
Allen ($2.4)
Result of this trade
#29 (~$2m)
#40 (~$1m)
'19 #1 (~$5m)
D.Wont ($5.5m)
+
$68m in cap space - what we get here

TheNetsFan · Post #12 » by **TheNetsFan** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:18 pm

Cap holds can simply be renounced. You don't need to dump them.

Repeat after me...The Nets are NOT trading Russell.

ejftw · Post #13 » by **ejftw** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:26 pm

Wouldn't consider 12 or 13 for that package. You'd need to add in RHJ, and then some.

Bucks would be an interesting target, as maybe would be Phoenix.

DirtyDez · Post #14 » by **DirtyDez** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:03 pm

Phoenix for sure would be interested unless they can get into the top-10 and snag a PG.

KnicksFury · Post #15 » by **KnicksFury** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 10:49 pm

I would just keep Russell. His value is really low right now and I don't see him losing that much more if they hold onto him. It's better to hope that he can raise his value in the first half of the season.

Prokorov · Post #16 » by **Prokorov** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:23 am

TheNetsFan wrote:Cap holds can simply be renounced. You don't need to dump them.

Repeat after me...The Nets are NOT trading Russell.

getting a pick > getting nothing

trading him is better then renouncing him if we can get a good pick

TheNetsFan · Post #17 » by **TheNetsFan** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:35 am

Prokorov wrote:
TheNetsFan wrote:Cap holds can simply be renounced. You don't need to dump them.

Repeat after me...The Nets are NOT trading Russell.

getting a pick > getting nothing

trading him is better then renouncing him if we can get a good pick

A mid-first is not a good enough pick. They're better off dumping Crabbe, signing 2 big FAs & resign Russell.

Prokorov · Post #18 » by **Prokorov** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:36 pm

TheNetsFan wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
TheNetsFan wrote:Cap holds can simply be renounced. You don't need to dump them.

Repeat after me...The Nets are NOT trading Russell.

getting a pick > getting nothing

trading him is better then renouncing him if we can get a good pick

A mid-first is not a good enough pick. They're better off dumping Crabbe, signing 2 big FAs & resign Russell.

i dont think we can dump crabbe and get any kind of salary relief

Post #19 » by **dakomish23** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:43 pm

babyjax13 wrote:Bucks at 17 seems as high as it could get you to me.

Maybe:

Delly 17

For

29

CelticsLV · Post #20 » by **CelticsLV** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:44 pm

Russell has very little value imo. Inefficient chucker for 3rd straight season, god awful defender. Not sure why they traded for him.