#16/#18/#35 - How high can OKC trade up?

Bentley1225 · Post #1 » by **Bentley1225** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:50 pm

Based on securing another 2021 1st round pick in Hoford/Walker deal, what team in the lottery would be interested in trading down for a package of those 3 picks?

Im assuming the Houston pick will be top 4 thereby allocating the Miami 2021 1st to OKC. The Thunder still have their own 1st, #36, #55 picks.

HornetJail · Post #2 » by **HornetJail** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 3:57 pm

11 + Richards for 16 and 18?

Post #3 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:16 pm

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:11 + Richards for 16 and 18?

I'd do that. But I would prefer to try to use 16 and 18+ to move up twice. That's harder to pull off, but OKC does have a lot of sweetener.

BlazersBroncos · Post #4 » by **BlazersBroncos** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:18 pm

I think CHA is the play. 11 + Cheap Salary Guy for 17 + 18. Or just 11 for 16 + 18.

Karmaloop · Post #5 » by **Karmaloop** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:22 pm

Bentley1225 wrote:Based on securing another 2021 1st round pick in Hoford/Walker deal, what team in the lottery would be interested in trading down for a package of those 3 picks?

Im assuming the Houston pick will be top 4 thereby allocating the Miami 2021 1st to OKC. The Thunder still have their own 1st, #36, #55 picks.

There's pretty clearly a top 5 (Cunningham, Mobley, Suggs, Green, and Kumminga) in some order, and I think any team picking inside that range is unlikely to be willing to move down. My gut says it'd get you in the 10-14 range.

E S V L · Post #6 » by **E S V L** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:31 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:I think CHA is the play. 11 + Cheap Salary Guy for 17 + 18. Or just 11 for 16 + 18.

Charlotte should think twice: there are potential stars in the range of 6-11.

HornetJail · Post #7 » by **HornetJail** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:33 pm

E S V L wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:I think CHA is the play. 11 + Cheap Salary Guy for 17 + 18. Or just 11 for 16 + 18.

Charlotte should think twice: there are potential stars in the range of 6-11.

which potential star is dropping to #11?

Post #8 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:37 pm

According to Kevin Pelton's 2017 chart http://nbasense.com/draft-pick-trade-value/2/kevin-pelton-2 that package o picks has the value of between the 3rd and 4th picks.

Bentley1225 · Post #9 » by **Bentley1225** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:41 pm

Ruzious wrote:According to Kevin Pelton's 2017 chart http://nbasense.com/draft-pick-trade-value/2/kevin-pelton-2 that package o picks has the value of between the 3rd and 4th picks.

I doubt you're getting into top half of lottery with #16/#18/#35. I think between 8-12 objectively speaking is realistic.

Post #10 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:57 pm

Bentley1225 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:According to Kevin Pelton's 2017 chart http://nbasense.com/draft-pick-trade-value/2/kevin-pelton-2 that package o picks has the value of between the 3rd and 4th picks.

I doubt you're getting into top half of lottery with #16/#18/#35. I think between 8-12 objectively speaking is realistic.

I'm thinking between 6 and 10 in this draft.

MasterIchiro · Post #11 » by **MasterIchiro** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:03 pm

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:
E S V L wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:I think CHA is the play. 11 + Cheap Salary Guy for 17 + 18. Or just 11 for 16 + 18.

Charlotte should think twice: there are potential stars in the range of 6-11.

which potential star is dropping to #11?

Bouknight. Plenty of stars break out without being strong defensively. Devon Booker comes to mind.

Post #12 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:07 pm

Ruzious wrote:
Bentley1225 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:According to Kevin Pelton's 2017 chart http://nbasense.com/draft-pick-trade-value/2/kevin-pelton-2 that package o picks has the value of between the 3rd and 4th picks.

I doubt you're getting into top half of lottery with #16/#18/#35. I think between 8-12 objectively speaking is realistic.

I'm thinking between 6 and 10 in this draft.

If I were 6-10 I don't think I'd make that trade, but that is what I'm hoping OKC is able to do.

meekrab · Post #13 » by **meekrab** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:11 pm

I'd probably give #10 for that Doritos sampler pack but I'd be asking for 7 if I'm OKC.

Post #14 » by **Domejandro** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:17 pm

Looking at history, 9-11 is the likely projection.

Post #15 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:20 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:
E S V L wrote:
Charlotte should think twice: there are potential stars in the range of 6-11.

which potential star is dropping to #11?

Bouknight. Plenty of stars break out without being strong defensively. Devon Booker comes to mind.

I don't know if he lasts until 11. There's noise out there that he's climbing up boards. His 3p% was pretty abysmal last year though so maybe he does slip.

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E S V L · Post #16 » by **E S V L** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:24 pm

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:
E S V L wrote:
BlazersBroncos wrote:I think CHA is the play. 11 + Cheap Salary Guy for 17 + 18. Or just 11 for 16 + 18.

Charlotte should think twice: there are potential stars in the range of 6-11.

which potential star is dropping to #11?

Moody, Bouknight, Jalen Johnson, Keon Johnson

Some might argue that Mitchell and Kispert can be seen by Charlotte as way too valuable to trade down for 2 most likely role players.

shrink · Post #17 » by **shrink** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:25 pm

In a typical draft, I have that at

42 + 38/2 + 17/3 = 66 2/3 as #8.

The #35 moves it from #9 to #8, but that small a margin is really going to depend on the two players there.

MasterIchiro · Post #18 » by **MasterIchiro** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 5:59 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:which potential star is dropping to #11?

Bouknight. Plenty of stars break out without being strong defensively. Devon Booker comes to mind.
I don't know if he lasts until 11. There's noise out there that he's climbing up boards. His 3p% was pretty abysmal last year though so maybe he does slip.

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He's not taking set threes. He's shooting them off the dribble. He's able to create his own three point opportunities. So I think there's great potential. He shot 80% on FT across two years. Evaluators favor freshman and he's a sophomore, so hopefully he falls.

nykballa2k4 · Post #19 » by **nykballa2k4** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:06 pm

Ruzious wrote:
Bentley1225 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:According to Kevin Pelton's 2017 chart http://nbasense.com/draft-pick-trade-value/2/kevin-pelton-2 that package o picks has the value of between the 3rd and 4th picks.

I doubt you're getting into top half of lottery with #16/#18/#35. I think between 8-12 objectively speaking is realistic.

I'm thinking between 6 and 10 in this draft.

If someone moved from 6, I think it would take more than those two. Specifically because Mitchell seems like a good prospect with a solid floor. To move from him back to unknown picks/players is high risk. 8 Seems like the right number, but if TOR stays at 7 then I could see them, because of their management, dropping down willingly. Can't see Orlando doing that(8) nor Kings (9) but everyone else could have reasonable motivation if their 1A is gone.

blind prophet · Post #20 » by **blind prophet** » Fri Jun 18, 2021 6:09 pm

A look at previous history.

Vlade traded the 10 for the 15 & 20

So, for the 16 & 18......maybe you get anywhere from 8-12?