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Post#1 » by StormxShadow » Wed Jan 9, 2008 7:16 pm

IND
OUT: Granger, O'Neal, Murphy
IN: Igoudala(exp), Richard Jefferson, James Posey(exp), Scalabrine, Kendrick Perkins, Tony Allen(exp), Eddie House(exp)

NJ
OUT: Richard Jefferson, Jamal Magloire, Sean Williams, Malik Allen, Bostan Nachbar
IN: Jermaine O'Neal, Rodney Carney, Reggie Evans

BOSTON
OUT: Perkins, Posey, Scalabrine, House, Allen,
IN: Andre Miller, Willie Green, (Jamal Magloire - bought out by Sixers)

PHI
OUT: Igoudala, Miller, Evans, Carney, Green
IN: Granger, Sean Williams, Troy Murphy, Bostjan Nachbar(exp), Malik Allen(exp), (Jamal Magloire - exp and bought out and sent to Boston)


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Feel free to change out some minor parts, but I think it's just about even.

The Celtics will have to pick up an semi-athletic center on the wire though to fill in. Or, the Sixers could buy out Magloire and the Celts could pick him up.

AFTER

SIXERS:
Louis Williams - Kevin Ollie
Danny Granger - Bostjan Nachbar(exp)
Thadeus Young - Jason Smith - Malik Allen(exp)
Sean Williams - Troy Murphy
Dalembert - (Jamal Magloire - exp)

NEW JERSEY:
Kidd - Armstrong
Carter - Wright
R. Evans - Carney
J. O'Neal - Collins
Boone - Kristic

BOSTON:
Andre Miller - Rondo
R. Allen - W. Green
Pierce - Powe
Garnett - Davis
Pollard - (waiver wire)

INDIANA:
Tinsley - House(exp) - Allen(exp)
Dunleavy - Rush - Scalabrine
Iguodala(exp) - Posey(exp) - Williams
R. Jefferson - Diogu
K. Perkins - J. Foster - Harrison
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Post#2 » by loserX » Wed Jan 9, 2008 7:23 pm

Welcome to the boards...as a request, please post the actual trade here (just the names, not the stats) as a courtesy to other readers. Thanks :)
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Post#3 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Wed Jan 9, 2008 7:27 pm

This is a tough sell to Pacer fans, we basically trade O'Neal and Granger for Jefferson, Iggy, and a bunch of people we don't need with such a deep team. I doubt the Pacers do this. Jefferson, Iggy, Williams, Daniels, Dunleavy, plus all those other SG/SF you had coming in. It would create the biggest log jam in history. Not to mention we'd have to cut like 4 guys before we could make the trade.
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Post#4 » by StormxShadow » Wed Jan 9, 2008 7:33 pm

You get rid of Murphy which is a bonus and you get rid of all those guys and actually get cap space. SO, that's why I say Ind likes it. You get the chance to reshape your team in the off season. That is a nice luxury, no?
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Post#5 » by StormxShadow » Wed Jan 9, 2008 7:37 pm

Thank you! Happy to oblige.

loserX wrote:Welcome to the boards...as a request, please post the actual trade here (just the names, not the stats) as a courtesy to other readers. Thanks :)
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Post#6 » by sec-106 » Wed Jan 9, 2008 7:48 pm

Sixers pass.
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Post#7 » by StormxShadow » Wed Jan 9, 2008 7:53 pm

To be honest, the Sixers get the steal of this deal. They get cap space and young talent. There will be close to 18 million to spend for the Sixers in FA.

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Post#8 » by sec-106 » Wed Jan 9, 2008 7:58 pm

I like Granger, but Murphy's deal is brutal.

And while Williams is playing well, I'm not totally convinced he's not over his knuckleheadedness.

Not that the deal is unfair for the Sixers, just too much risk involved to give both Andres.
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Post#9 » by StormxShadow » Wed Jan 9, 2008 8:01 pm

If anything, Murphy is as good as Todd McCullough..yea, remember him? I'll take someone tall who can run the floor anyday of the week if I am the Sixers.

As for the risk you say involved in giving up both Andre's, well, I guess we have different evaluations of the players involved.

sec-106 wrote:I like Granger, but Murphy's deal is brutal.

And while Williams is playing well, I'm not totally convinced he's not over his knuckleheadedness.

Not that the deal is unfair for the Sixers, just too much risk involved to give both Andres.
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Post#10 » by ecuhus1981 » Wed Jan 9, 2008 8:13 pm

Welcome, StormxShadow.

I definitely think your deal has some fresh ideas (a valuable commodity on this board), but as a whole I don't think any team does it. I wouldn't mind taking on Carney and Evans in a JO (or Gasol) deal, and that had never crossed my mind before. Right now, Iguodala wants to be just as much of a SF as Richard Jefferson, so I'm not sure how the two Wildcats would work that out (meanwhile, Dunleavy goes back to the bench during a career year...). If BOS decides to trade their starting C, I don't think Magloire is going to be first in line for auditions (Nets fan here, btw).
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Post#11 » by KyleCleric » Wed Jan 9, 2008 8:18 pm

BOSTON
OUT: Perkins, Posey, Scalabrine, House, Allen,
IN: Andre Miller, Willie Green, (Jamal Magloire - bought out by Sixers)

I can't see Boston being too happy with this. Perkins and Allen for Willie Green and Jamal Magloire is redundant. Andre Miller is certainly an upgrade over House, but the Celtics seem happy with the play of House at point. The lost of Posey though seems crippling to the Celtics. Not only is he their sixth man, but main backup to both forward positions. With this trade, the Celtics will have to rely on GDavis and Pollard for 48 minutes when they've been combining for about 15 minutes off the bench mostly. Also it would leave Ray Allen and Paul Pierce as the only two players that could potentially play SF on their team.
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Post#12 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Jan 9, 2008 8:35 pm

StormxShadow wrote:You get rid of Murphy which is a bonus and you get rid of all those guys and actually get cap space. SO, that's why I say Ind likes it. You get the chance to reshape your team in the off season. That is a nice luxury, no?


I see what you're trying to say, but in order to "actually get cap space" in this deal, we would have to renounce our rights to Iguodala, meaning we couldn't use our Bird Rights to re-sign him and making him an unrestricted free agent. That ruins any value he would bring to this deal.

Plus, any hopes of getting Iguodala would be to play NEXT to Granger, not instead of him.

Losing Murphy's deal helps, but Richard Jefferson doesn't really. I'd rather not get Jefferson and hold onto Granger instead.

Find a way to get Iguodala and almost everything else in the rest of the package for JO and Murpy, and I'd do it.

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