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Post#1081 » by Shewasfly » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:19 am

Shewasfly wrote:The funny thing is that the Nets team is not even that great, or comparable to real big 3's we've seen.

Kyrie has been very overrated since he won that championship for the Cavs, even though he oddly doesn't actually get credit for it. He is not even a first ballot hall of famer imo.

Harden is definitely a hall of famer, but has one of the most unadaptable games I've ever seen. Like it is very difficult to play with a player like him. HE will have to adjust his game, and there's no guarantee he will. He's also sloppy as **** this year. He's going to spend much of the season trying to play his bad bodied ass back into shape.

So its going to be a huge challenge making it work, in ways it has never been for any other big 3 we've seen. KD is the only player on that team with pedigree and he's going to have to have impeccable leadership to make it work. That doesn't even get into the fact that he's the only one of the 3 who has played defense in his life. Other big 3's found a way to kind of be centered around defense, or at least 2 of the 3 be very good individual defenders.

All this said, if they trade Kyrie for a star big to anchor their D, no one else is going to make it out of the east unless they face injuries.
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Post#1082 » by Bishop45 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:58 am

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Would take over them:

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Luka
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I can't rationalize Giannis/Luka/AD over either of them, but I respect it.

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Post#1083 » by Bishop45 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:01 am

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Shewasfly wrote:The funny thing is that the Nets team is not even that great, or comparable to real big 3's we've seen.

Kyrie has been very overrated since he won that championship for the Cavs, even though he oddly doesn't actually get credit for it. He is not even a first ballot hall of famer imo.

Harden is definitely a hall of famer, but has one of the most unadaptable games I've ever seen. Like it is very difficult to play with a player like him. HE will have to adjust his game, and there's no guarantee he will. He's also sloppy as **** this year. He's going to spend much of the season trying to play his bad bodied ass back into shape.

So its going to be a huge challenge making it work, in ways it has never been for any other big 3 we've seen. KD is the only player on that team with pedigree and he's going to have to have impeccable leadership to make it work. That doesn't even get into the fact that he's the only one of the 3 who has played defense in his life. Other big 3's found a way to kind of be centered around defense, or at least 2 of the 3 be very good individual defenders.

All this said, if they trade Kyrie for a star big to anchor their D, no one else is going to make it out of the east unless they face injuries.


They're too good to fail, but Kyrie would sink them? I don't see it. Those guys are going to get a clean shot every time down the court-- who in the East can compete with that
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Post#1084 » by Shewasfly » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:11 am

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Shewasfly wrote:The funny thing is that the Nets team is not even that great, or comparable to real big 3's we've seen.

Kyrie has been very overrated since he won that championship for the Cavs, even though he oddly doesn't actually get credit for it. He is not even a first ballot hall of famer imo.

Harden is definitely a hall of famer, but has one of the most unadaptable games I've ever seen. Like it is very difficult to play with a player like him. HE will have to adjust his game, and there's no guarantee he will. He's also sloppy as **** this year. He's going to spend much of the season trying to play his bad bodied ass back into shape.

So its going to be a huge challenge making it work, in ways it has never been for any other big 3 we've seen. KD is the only player on that team with pedigree and he's going to have to have impeccable leadership to make it work. That doesn't even get into the fact that he's the only one of the 3 who has played defense in his life. Other big 3's found a way to kind of be centered around defense, or at least 2 of the 3 be very good individual defenders.

All this said, if they trade Kyrie for a star big to anchor their D, no one else is going to make it out of the east unless they face injuries.


Their too good to fail, but Kyrie would sink them? I don't see it. Those guys are going to get a clean shot every time down the court-- who in the East can compete with that

My point is that the combination of the 3 them is not too good to fail. Kyrie and Harden are redundant, maybe even competing due to their need to dribble dribble dribble. But Harden is at least a good distributor. Add in Kyrie's emotional problems and he honestly takes away more than he adds. I would look to move him for another all star with a more diversified skillset if I'm the Nets. For instance if they acquired Beal for Kyrie straight up, they'd be more balanced and harder to beat imo.
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Post#1085 » by Bishop45 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:37 am

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Shewasfly wrote:All this said, if they trade Kyrie for a star big to anchor their D, no one else is going to make it out of the east unless they face injuries.


Their too good to fail, but Kyrie would sink them? I don't see it. Those guys are going to get a clean shot every time down the court-- who in the East can compete with that

My point is that the combination of the 3 them is not too good to fail. Kyrie and Harden are redundant, maybe even competing due to their need to dribble dribble dribble. But Harden is at least a good distributor. Add in Kyrie's emotional problems and he honestly takes away more than he adds. I would look to move him for another all star with a more diversified skillset if I'm the Nets. For instance if they acquired Beal for Kyrie straight up, they'd be more balanced and harder to beat imo.



So far I've calculated:

Harden + KD= no one else out of the East unless they face injuries

Harden +KD+Kyrie= bound to fail


I could see Kyrie being emotional about something he might not like, but so far it's an imagined problem on a stacked team. Over-dribbling is usually an issue for teams that lack ballhandlers as well, so I'd give him a shot
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Post#1086 » by Shewasfly » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:45 am

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Their too good to fail, but Kyrie would sink them? I don't see it. Those guys are going to get a clean shot every time down the court-- who in the East can compete with that

My point is that the combination of the 3 them is not too good to fail. Kyrie and Harden are redundant, maybe even competing due to their need to dribble dribble dribble. But Harden is at least a good distributor. Add in Kyrie's emotional problems and he honestly takes away more than he adds. I would look to move him for another all star with a more diversified skillset if I'm the Nets. For instance if they acquired Beal for Kyrie straight up, they'd be more balanced and harder to beat imo.



So far I've calculated:

Harden + KD= no one else out of the East unless they face injuries

Harden +KD+Kyrie= bound to fail


I could see Kyrie being emotional about something he might not like, but so far it's an imagined problem on a stacked team. Over-dribbling is usually an issue for teams that lack ballhandlers as well, so I'd give him a shot

Umm I'm not sure if you're talking about me or what someone else said, but you may need to go back and re-read. Tbh I have no idea what you're talkng about or how you came to your 'calculation'. Because its certainly nothing I've said.
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Post#1087 » by Bishop45 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:45 am

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I’m sorry, but how can a professional athlete who has nothing else is his life to ahead of basketball be this bad at shooting a wide open 3 point shot? It’s one thing for him to continually clank the, but to never shoot and then flat-out air ball?

And this is different to a roll man who has never had to shoot past the ft line leaning to add the distance, he’s always been a wing.
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It’s all mental at this point with Ben. There’s some discussion that due to his ambidextrous hands, he’s actually shooting with the wrong arm and should be a right hander.

If he’s really not gonna be able to shoot it, he needs to play more like Heat Bron and operate more out of the low/mid post and use his size to find shooters, or get to the hole.
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It’s all mental at this point with Ben. There’s some discussion that due to his ambidextrous hands, he’s actually shooting with the wrong arm and should be a right hander.

If he’s really not gonna be able to shoot it, he needs to play more like Heat Bron and operate more out of the low/mid post and use his size to find shooters, or get to the hole.


He has to just power through these airballs/lolz, same as Giannis is doing

He's never going to be good at it, but it's better than not taking any. I agree that he has a size advantage, but he will have to improve in that area a lot too. I haven't seen him use power moves as much as you would expect from a guy his size
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Post#1092 » by Chalm Down » Sun Jan 17, 2021 11:32 am

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Would take over them:

AD
Lebron
Kawhi
Giannis
Luka
Curry


I can't rationalize Giannis/Luka/AD over either of them, but I respect it.

ẞtill too talented to fail


They're an odd bunch. Offense will be best in the league, but the defense seems really bad

But that may be enough to win in a year there's no all-time great team to beat
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Post#1093 » by IggieCC » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:33 pm

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On a scale of 1 to Iggie made a new gt, how mad will you be at me for saying the nets don't have any top 5 players




Would take over them:

AD
Lebron
Kawhi
Giannis
Luka
Curry

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Post#1094 » by Bishop45 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:41 pm

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Would take over them:

AD
Lebron
Kawhi
Giannis
Luka
Curry


I can't rationalize Giannis/Luka/AD over either of them, but I respect it.

ẞtill too talented to fail


They're an odd bunch. Offense will be best in the league, but the defense seems really bad

But that may be enough to win in a year there's no all-time great team to beat



Pretty much, if you can get a shot whenever you want, defense really isn't much of an issue
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not impressed with defense. and kyrie won't help in that. unless they can get pieces for kyrie (unlikely) i'll still give em 2 year window but they're no cake walk to the Finals imo

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not impressed with defense. and kyrie won't help in that. unless they can get pieces for kyrie (unlikely) i'll still give em 2 year window but they're no cake walk to the Finals imo

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Post#1100 » by Bishop45 » Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:53 pm

If Dippo falls through, we need to think about paying franchise player Julius Randle
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