Around the NBA streets Vol. 5: ONE MORE TIME

[AirP.]

If players on the left are generally ranked higher than players on the right, then I don't think it's fair to claim that you made a wrong choice. Giannis was overlooked by what 13 other teams? This is magic 8 ball stuff and can make a list like this for all NBA teams.

Bottom 3 moves on the list are pretty bad and blames should be justified.

You have to look at the context of some of these HORRIFIC draft picks.

1. 2013- They traded 22 year old All-Star in Jrue Holiday to get the Noel(6th pick) and another 1st the next year. Remember, teams were concerned about Noel's torn left ACL at that time.
2. 2014 - They drafted Embiid #3, the context... he underwent surgery on a broken bone in his right foot which would rule him out for the next 4-6 months, 6 days later the 76ers drafted him #3.
3. 2015 - It's hard to believe this is true that with the #3 pick the 76ers, for basically the 3rd year in a row all top 6 or higher picks, drafted a center.

I don't see how any owner could allow a franchise to basically use 3 near the top of the draft picks on centers. At best case they all ended up working out but you get lowballed on trades because other teams know YOU HAVE 3 HIGHLY DRAFTED CENTERS ON YOUR TEAM AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE MINUTES FOR THEM. 2016-2017 all 3 were on the roster together somewhat healthy. Basically the 76ers were flushing 1 if not 2 lottery picks down the toilet, if you're going to draft another center, how about trading one of the others first for something?

The Giannis miss is fine, he grew after he was drafted but I believe the real point was that in that draft they traded 22 year old Jrue Holiday(after making an all-star team that year) and had 2 of the top 11 picks with CJ being drafted right before MCW(11th pick) and Stephen Adams being picked right after MCW. It was a disaster of a draft, they could have kept Jrue and added Stephen Adams at 11 or even Olynyk, there were a lot of quality/solid centers in that draft after 11, Gobert, Dieng, M.Plumlee. It's really tough to not over strees that there was enough center depth in the draft to not trade a 22 year old all-star for a HURT unproven center and another draft pick and although the draft is hit and miss.

[IggieCC]

If players on the left are generally ranked higher than players on the right, then I don't think it's fair to claim that you made a wrong choice. Giannis was overlooked by what 13 other teams? This is magic 8 ball stuff and can make a list like this for all NBA teams.

Bottom 3 moves on the list are pretty bad and blames should be justified.

You have to look at the context of some of these HORRIFIC draft picks.

1. 2013- They traded 22 year old All-Star in Jrue Holiday to get the Noel(6th pick) and another 1st the next year. Remember, teams were concerned about Noel's torn left ACL at that time.
2. 2014 - They drafted Embiid #3, the context... he underwent surgery on a broken bone in his right foot which would rule him out for the next 4-6 months, 6 days later the 76ers drafted him #3.
3. 2015 - It's hard to believe this is true that with the #3 pick the 76ers, for basically the 3rd year in a row all top 6 or higher picks, drafted a center.

I don't see how any owner could allow a franchise to basically use 3 near the top of the draft picks on centers. At best case they all ended up working out but you get lowballed on trades because other teams know YOU HAVE 3 HIGHLY DRAFTED CENTERS ON YOUR TEAM AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE MINUTES FOR THEM. 2016-2017 all 3 were on the roster together somewhat healthy. Basically the 76ers were flushing 1 if not 2 lottery picks down the toilet, if you're going to draft another center, how about trading one of the others first for something?

The Giannis miss is fine, he grew after he was drafted but I believe the real point was that in that draft they traded 22 year old Jrue Holiday(after making an all-star team that year) and had 2 of the top 11 picks with CJ being drafted right before MCW(11th pick) and Stephen Adams being picked right after MCW. It was a disaster of a draft, they could have kept Jrue and added Stephen Adams at 11 or even Olynyk, there were a lot of quality/solid centers in that draft after 11, Gobert, Dieng, M.Plumlee. It's really tough to not over strees that there was enough center depth in the draft to not trade a 22 year old all-star for a HURT unproven center and another draft pick and although the draft is hit and miss.

Yeah drafting 3 centers in the smack middle of non-centers league transformation is cringey. I'd be hard pressed not to go for Embiid though.. despite major injury concerns. Some bad luck and bad timing were also involved but it almost seems as if they didn't even believe in all those centers to stay healthy? They clearly miscalculate the values of center market going forward.

[Bishop45]

Jimmy wasn't making Philly contenders tbf

[Wiltside]

Let’s go Magic I guess

[QUIZ]

What did Curry do to his head?

[Mos_Heat]

Eh... they've made so many mistakes and the few things they hit on... like drafting Simmons and Embiid who's games clash or trading very little for Butler only to piss him off by asking someone if they could keep him under control(when needing to resign him) and have him basically force their hand to trade him, they're not smart enough to capitalize on. The 76ers WERE ON THE CUSP OF BEING A TOP CONTENDER FOR AT LEAST THE NEXT 5 YEARS and now... possibly a first round exit, even if they were at full strength. Even if Butler isn't a Tier 1 player because he doesn't drop 30 a night, he's one of the few players that gives you a chance to win any close game, no matter if it's needed on offense or defense. He's what you want as your second best player for building a championship team.

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Missing on draft picks is fine. It's the lottery, at the end of the day. Butler trade was ok, they traded RoCo and Saric for JRich + some cap space;

But trading 2 unprotected 1st round picks and a young rotation player for Tobias Harris is unexceptable.

Eh... trading Butler wasn't ok, for the playoffs, Butler was the near perfect #2 for Embiid. A 2 way player who doesn't disappear when the game is on the line.

The only problem I have with the assets for Harris was that he was becoming a free agent at the end of last year. I actually like the Embiid(C), Butler(SF), and Harris(PF) being their top 3 players and just give them a solid shooting PG and a shooter as the 5th guy. Had they moved Simmons last year for say a package somewhere in the ballpark of what the AD package got, the Philly team would probably be a multiple championship team in the next 10 years. Philly not deciding between Embiid and Simmons by now will probably lead to Embiid to ask out and trying to force himself to maybe... Miami, which I mentioned near the beginning of this season. I'm not sure I've ever seen 2 players as talented as Simmons and Embiid who's games were the exact opposite that you'd want for their teammate.

I also have the belief that Simmons will start shooting the ball once Embiid and Simmons are no longer teammates. I really believe Simmons does not want to play off of Embiid and once he starts showing he's willing to shooting the offense will be catered to Embiid. Simmons needs to be in the same type of role Giannis or Westbrook are in.

In the aggregate, they traded Covington and Saric for JRich + Butler for half of a szn, which is fine.

No, Harris can't be your 3rd best player. He got 180mills, but he's just marginally better than Aaron Gordon or Kyle Kuzma

[DayofMourning]

Forgot what Brad Daugherty looked like for a second when they showed the Cavs rep. I saw him at a Books a Million in Asheville, NC years ago. Tiny bit starstruck tbh.

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[QUIZ]

Who's even in this draft?

[DayofMourning]

Minny
GSW
Charlotte
Chicago

[DayofMourning]

Who's even in this draft?

Probably going to see a late lotto guy end up as the best player in the draft a few years down the road.

[twix2500]

Timberwolves fits perfectly with either Edwards or Wiserman.

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[Mos_Heat]

Anything ESPN does is super lame

[Bishop45]

Deni might be the best guard in the draft-- mixed feelings on Edwards(worthy risk for GS if they can't trade pic tho)

[DayofMourning]

Deni might be the best guard in the draft-- mixed feelings on Edwards(worthy risk for GS if they can't trade pic tho)

GSW has to trade the pick....right?

[oreon]

Deni might be the best guard in the draft-- mixed feelings on Edwards(worthy risk for GS if they can't trade pic tho)

GSW has to trade the pick....right?

They're gonna try for Giannis. I don't know if that pick + Wiggins + multiple picks will cut it though

[dean456]

Deni might be the best guard in the draft-- mixed feelings on Edwards(worthy risk for GS if they can't trade pic tho)

GSW has to trade the pick....right?

They're gonna try for Giannis. I don't know if that pick + Wiggins + multiple picks will cut it though

Got to hope Milwaukee are stubborn and keep him one more year and don't trade him early. I'm scared if Giannis goes to GS with their spacing now he may not leave.

[DayofMourning]

Deni might be the best guard in the draft-- mixed feelings on Edwards(worthy risk for GS if they can't trade pic tho)

GSW has to trade the pick....right?

They're gonna try for Giannis. I don't know if that pick + Wiggins + multiple picks will cut it though

Milwaukee can't do that. They've got to ride it out. After all the poor returns they've had, they can't afford to move him for anything.

[dean456]

If Portland wakes up and starts hitting shots they can win this game. LA are playing terrible but still winning.

[Umbooki]

Whiteside still doesn’t box out, eh?