Miami heat Official off-season thread 10.0 ITS ABOUT DAME TIME, The one where we actually land Dame this time

[ShulaDon92]

Not only will the affect the Heat and Blazers negatively if it doesn’t happen, it’ll destroy the NBA2K franchise. I’ve told myself if we get Dame I’ll buy that poverty ass game for the 1st time in years

Wtf

-SHULA

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The good ol boys seem intent on making sure Dame and his agent know their place. Not sure why there were crickets when Snake Paul told the league that AD would only sign an extension in LA but whatever.

"Will only sign an extension in LA" is also very different from "will refuse to play anywhere other than LA while under contract".

It is but it isn’t, I have spoken

[IceColdCubano]

OP off to a great start I see. Mods better start sharpening their permaban skills

Dude is getting a public exexution by guillotin if this falls through.

[Kobewade11]

The good ol boys seem intent on making sure Dame and his agent know their place. Not sure why there were crickets when Snake Paul told the league that AD would only sign an extension in LA but whatever.

"Will only sign an extension in LA" is also very different from "will refuse to play anywhere other than LA while under contract".

Semantics. The intent was the same. Deter teams from making an offer because the agent knows no team wants to give up significant assets for an 8 month rental, just like Dame’s agent knows no team wants to give up significant assets for a guy that doesn’t want to be there. If I’m not mistaken the quote from Goodwin was any team trading for Lillard would be getting an “unhappy player”, not that he wont play.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Dame should come out and say its either PHX or MIA and say there you go my list is bigger now.

Dame for Ayton makes way more sense than Dame for Herro if the Blazers don't value the Heats picks/young players.

Don’t want him either.

You’re going to take Miamis offer and you’re going to like it

[contract]

OP off to a great start I see. Mods better start sharpening their permaban skills

At least he got the conversation started again. cRapaz had to spam the hell out of the last thread or we might have been stuck there for another week.

[ShulaDon92]

Yep, it backfired. The only way we probably see the trade happening is by the trade deadline when these fancy talks cool off.

Looks like we're gonna have the Youngins plus Jrich, and Bryant to start the season.

Herro will play his butt off and gonna have a chip on his shoulder.

It's exciting for fans that like to follow young prospects but if jovi and jjj dont play or suck; the fanbase here, knowing how fickle they get, will be hating quick.

-SHULA

[3ammy3uck3ts]

CRAPaz can eat a dixk at this point

[AirP.]

The good ol boys seem intent on making sure Dame and his agent know their place. Not sure why there were crickets when Snake Paul told the league that AD would only sign an extension in LA but whatever.

"Will only sign an extension in LA" is also very different from "will refuse to play anywhere other than LA while under contract".

It is but it isn’t, I have spoken

In this situation it doesn't really matter, nobody out there is saying I want Lillard in 2 seasons at 35 and 36 for 60 million a year, or boy I'm glad Portland signed him for 2 more years at 60 mil a year. Lillard getting that 10 million dollar bump a season starting at age 35 is just more of a reason you have to believe you can win a championship with Lillard in the next 2 years which there are very few teams that can give a lot and still be in that situation. If New York didn't have Brunson they'd probably offer a better package but they already have a high level playoff proven PG that's much cheaper and much younger.

[Pokuokic]

Dame for Ayton makes way more sense than Dame for Herro if the Blazers don't value the Heats picks/young players.

Don’t want him either.

You’re going to take Miamis offer and you’re going to like it

It's not up to me mate

[Vertical Limit]

That memo is such bull because for decades players have requested trades to specific teams and got it done. This seems like Jody Allen and Cronin cried to Adam Silver and the nba just put that dumb **** out there.

Dame made a request, the agent didnt say anything that any other agent has not said before. Im talking guys like Carmelo asking for a trade to the Knicks, Durant asking for a trade to Phoenix, Kyrie, Kareem, Chamberlain, Anthony Davis.. Paul George.. Harden..

Now you want to set a new precedent? **** off Adam Silver

[powerball1373]

The good ol boys seem intent on making sure Dame and his agent know their place. Not sure why there were crickets when Snake Paul told the league that AD would only sign an extension in LA but whatever.

"Will only sign an extension in LA" is also very different from "will refuse to play anywhere other than LA while under contract".

Semantics. The intent was the same. Deter teams from making an offer because the agent knows no team wants to give up significant assets for an 8 month rental, just like Dame’s agent knows no team wants to give up significant assets for a guy that doesn’t want to be there. If I’m not mistaken the quote from Goodwin was any team trading for Lillard would be getting an “unhappy player”, not that he wont play.

Eh, it's not really though. There's always a risk it's a rental when you trade for a player with one year left. The Raptors did it with Kawhi and won a championship, yet he still didn't re-sign.

And Goodwin may not have explicitly said it, but the implication was definitely there.

[AirP.]

The good ol boys seem intent on making sure Dame and his agent know their place. Not sure why there were crickets when Snake Paul told the league that AD would only sign an extension in LA but whatever.

"Will only sign an extension in LA" is also very different from "will refuse to play anywhere other than LA while under contract".

Semantics. The intent was the same. Deter teams from making an offer because the agent knows no team wants to give up significant assets for an 8 month rental, just like Dame’s agent knows no team wants to give up significant assets for a guy that doesn’t want to be there. If I’m not mistaken the quote from Goodwin was any team trading for Lillard would be getting an “unhappy player”, not that he wont play.

Right, the difference other than AD was much younger, teams were basically told they'd be renting AD and then he'd leave which I'm sure would mean he'd be taking off any game he felt any pain to make sure he's ready to play for the Lakers the next season... that's all legal, they're saying Goodwin was indicating something illegal like sitting out in protest.

Now what would be wild is if Lillard would pull a Ben Simmons and wonder outload what his mental state would be if he were sent to a team he wasn't fully confident with. If he wanted to go fully legal is he could decide not to play any game he didn't feel 100% to try to extend his career.

[stacksonstacks]

The memo is very technical for (likely) legal reasons. It references "refusal to perform services," which would give the team/NBA cause to file arbitration (or whatever process the CBA requires for disputes under contracts) for anticipatory breach of contract.

[stacksonstacks]

The difference is qualitative. Dame and his agent can say things like he'll be disgruntled and be miserable and make life miserable but he'll fully perform the contract from a technical perspective.

[Rapaz]

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[Vertical Limit]

if Dame requested a trade to the Lakers and the agent said the same things.. that memo doesnt exist. Period. As a matter of fact adam would have helped the lakers by him personally reaching out to as many teams to get involved as possible so that the lakers dont have to give up anything of value and still get dame.

[Rapaz]

CRAPaz can eat a dixk at this point

I’ve been feeding you pan con pinga.

Y se acabó el pan.

[contract]

"Will only sign an extension in LA" is also very different from "will refuse to play anywhere other than LA while under contract".

Semantics. The intent was the same. Deter teams from making an offer because the agent knows no team wants to give up significant assets for an 8 month rental, just like Dame’s agent knows no team wants to give up significant assets for a guy that doesn’t want to be there. If I’m not mistaken the quote from Goodwin was any team trading for Lillard would be getting an “unhappy player”, not that he wont play.

Right, the difference other than AD was much younger, teams were basically told they'd be renting AD and then he'd leave which I'm sure would mean he'd be taking off any game he felt any pain to make sure he's ready to play for the Lakers the next season... that's all legal, they're saying Goodwin was indicating something illegal like sitting out in protest.

Now what would be wild is if Lillard would pull a Ben Simmons and wonder outload what his mental state would be if he were sent to a team he wasn't fully confident with. If he wanted to go fully legal is he could decide not to play any game he didn't feel 100% to try to extend his career.

At this point I wouldn't advise Dame to get cute. He's already been put on notice. Even if eventually he ended up winning whatever arbitration or appeal happened, he wouldn't end up in Miami. The smart move for Dame is to let this play out. No matter what the league said, some other team stepping up with a big offer is unlikely.

[Wiltside]

Feels like this is Big 3 collusion coming back to haunt us.

cRonin really seppukuing us.