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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1641 » by carnageta » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:57 pm

Razor thin loses this year to Detroit 2x, Sacramento, and Orlando (in which we lead by 22 heading into the 4th) quarter. Had we won those 4 games we'd be 20-12 right now; 4th in the East and tied for the 7th best record in the NBA.
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Post#1642 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Dec 30, 2024 6:59 pm

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Up and down season this year in an inconsistent role and obviously with 1 foot out the door lingering around.

2 seasons ago: 18-3-6 40% from 3 on 7 attempts 61TS%

Last season: 18-3-6 42% from 3 on 7 attempts 59TS%

After Terry i now worry about offensive players coming to Miami but Shooting and passing “should” be able to translate worst case. He’s a better passer than anyone we’ve had in the Jimmy era I would say
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1643 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:01 pm

carnageta wrote:Razor thin loses this year to Detroit 2x, Sacramento, and Orlando (in which we lead by 22 heading into the 4th) quarter. Had we won those 4 games we'd be 20-12 right now; 4th in the East and tied for the 7th best record in the NBA.


Sacramento still stings, that was a clear push off for the rebound.

I think we’re near the top of the league in losses after leading by 15+ points. Just so many games you could argue we should’ve won or would’ve won if the ball bounces a different way. They could start going our way with a little added help. Get a quality PG and big and let’s see what we can do.
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Post#1644 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:01 pm

Actually all of those losses still sting lmao those were bad.
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1645 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:06 pm

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Jimmy comes back and we have a favorable 10 game stretch, this is the time to make a run. 4 of those should be guaranteed wins, 7-3 over this stretch would be very solid and should be the goal at minimum
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Post#1646 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:11 pm

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Up and down season this year in an inconsistent role and obviously with 1 foot out the door lingering around.

2 seasons ago: 18-3-6 40% from 3 on 7 attempts 61TS%

Last season: 18-3-6 42% from 3 on 7 attempts 59TS%

After Terry i now worry about offensive players coming to Miami but Shooting and passing “should” be able to translate worst case. He’s a better passer than anyone we’ve had in the Jimmy era I would say

We can’t sign him. His contract value close to 19 per is too high. Being in the first apron limits us to 12.5 million or below for buyout players.
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Post#1647 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:13 pm

January as a whole is a favorable month even outside the next 10 after looking, LOCK IN
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Post#1648 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:14 pm

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Up and down season this year in an inconsistent role and obviously with 1 foot out the door lingering around.

2 seasons ago: 18-3-6 40% from 3 on 7 attempts 61TS%

Last season: 18-3-6 42% from 3 on 7 attempts 59TS%

After Terry i now worry about offensive players coming to Miami but Shooting and passing “should” be able to translate worst case. He’s a better passer than anyone we’ve had in the Jimmy era I would say

We can’t sign him. His contract value close to 19 per is too high. Being in the first apron limits us to 12.5 million or below for buyout players.


Fuxk, I forgot about that rule. That’s garbage lol

What if he agreed to a $12.5M buyout? Does that matter or is it just based on beginning salary?
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Post#1649 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:16 pm

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Up and down season this year in an inconsistent role and obviously with 1 foot out the door lingering around.

2 seasons ago: 18-3-6 40% from 3 on 7 attempts 61TS%

Last season: 18-3-6 42% from 3 on 7 attempts 59TS%

After Terry i now worry about offensive players coming to Miami but Shooting and passing “should” be able to translate worst case. He’s a better passer than anyone we’ve had in the Jimmy era I would say

We can’t sign him. His contract value close to 19 per is too high. Being in the first apron limits us to 12.5 million or below for buyout players.


Fuxk, I forgot about that rule. That’s garbage lol

What if he agreed to a $12.5M buyout? Does that matter or is it just based on beginning salary?

Nope. Not gonna work. We’ll be able to sign Tucker when he’s bought out. He’s at 11.5
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Post#1650 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:17 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:We can’t sign him. His contract value close to 19 per is too high. Being in the first apron limits us to 12.5 million or below for buyout players.


Fuxk, I forgot about that rule. That’s garbage lol

What if he agreed to a $12.5M buyout? Does that matter or is it just based on beginning salary?

Nope. Not gonna work. We’ll be able to sign Tucker when he’s bought out. He’s at 11.5


RIP to a cheap signing for a talented player that we can give a big role too; fuxk the new cba CJ McCollum Grant Williams and the Celtics
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Post#1651 » by MettaWorldPanda » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:21 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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Fuxk, I forgot about that rule. That’s garbage lol

What if he agreed to a $12.5M buyout? Does that matter or is it just based on beginning salary?

Nope. Not gonna work. We’ll be able to sign Tucker when he’s bought out. He’s at 11.5


RIP to a cheap signing for a talented player that we can give a big role too; fuxk the new cba CJ McCollum Grant Williams and the Celtics

Yeah such a bum ass rule. Teams into the 2nd apron can’t sign any buyouts.
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Post#1652 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:23 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Nope. Not gonna work. We’ll be able to sign Tucker when he’s bought out. He’s at 11.5


RIP to a cheap signing for a talented player that we can give a big role too; fuxk the new cba CJ McCollum Grant Williams and the Celtics

Yeah such a bum ass rule. Teams into the 2nd apron can’t sign any buyouts.


Terry to the wizards for Brogdon, sign DSJ sign Tucker and his old fresh legs via buyout and there it is
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Post#1653 » by twix2500 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:25 pm

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Up and down season this year in an inconsistent role and obviously with 1 foot out the door lingering around.

2 seasons ago: 18-3-6 40% from 3 on 7 attempts 61TS%

Last season: 18-3-6 42% from 3 on 7 attempts 59TS%

After Terry i now worry about offensive players coming to Miami but Shooting and passing “should” be able to translate worst case. He’s a better passer than anyone we’ve had in the Jimmy era I would say


Every player has a player style. The way Rozier is playing this year (not last year for the Heat) is inexcusable unless there is an unreported injury or he still having symtoms from the neck/back mystery injury. For one Rozier was never a point guard, he is truly a shooting guard. Russell is a natural point guard and his game has always been similar to Dragic but more of a point than Dragic. He is a career good shooter. I think Spo system fits Russell very well. For the cost it is very worth getting Russell. He is not a star or go too player but a very good role player. When he was asking for 30 mill that was just ridiculous. I think go after Russell allows the Heat to have assets for another move.
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1654 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Dec 30, 2024 7:57 pm

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Up and down season this year in an inconsistent role and obviously with 1 foot out the door lingering around.

2 seasons ago: 18-3-6 40% from 3 on 7 attempts 61TS%

Last season: 18-3-6 42% from 3 on 7 attempts 59TS%

After Terry i now worry about offensive players coming to Miami but Shooting and passing “should” be able to translate worst case. He’s a better passer than anyone we’ve had in the Jimmy era I would say


Every player has a player style. The way Rozier is playing this year (not last year for the Heat) is inexcusable unless there is an unreported injury or he still having symtoms from the neck/back mystery injury. For one Rozier was never a point guard, he is truly a shooting guard. Russell is a natural point guard and his game has always been similar to Dragic but more of a point than Dragic. He is a career good shooter. I think Spo system fits Russell very well. For the cost it is very worth getting Russell. He is not a star or go too player but a very good role player. When he was asking for 30 mill that was just ridiculous. I think go after Russell allows the Heat to have assets for another move.


Terry Duncan 2 2nd and a 1st maybe one of the young guys for DLos expiring and Cam?! Idk, I’m just spitballing
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1655 » by SA37 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:00 pm

carnageta wrote:Razor thin loses this year to Detroit 2x, Sacramento, and Orlando (in which we lead by 22 heading into the 4th) quarter. Had we won those 4 games we'd be 20-12 right now; 4th in the East and tied for the 7th best record in the NBA.


Yeah, but that would have put a serious dent in my prediction Miami would win 45 games this year :wink:
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1656 » by greg4012 » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:01 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:January as a whole is a favorable month even outside the next 10 after looking, LOCK IN


January will actually be the first full month this season that Miami doesn't have more road games than home. March presents a great opportunity to cement position with 12 home games (only 5 road games). Feb is gonna be tough.

Home games by month (road games in parenthesis):

Oct = 3 (1)
Nov = 5 (8)
Dec = 6 (7)
Jan = 8 (8)
Feb = 3 (9)
Mar = 12 (5)
Apr = 4 (3)
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Post#1657 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:03 pm

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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1658 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:04 pm

greg4012 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:January as a whole is a favorable month even outside the next 10 after looking, LOCK IN


January will actually be the first full month this season that Miami doesn't have more road games than home. March presents a great opportunity to cement position with 12 home games (only 5 road games). Feb is gonna be tough.

Home games by month (road games in parenthesis):

Oct = 3 (1)
Nov = 5 (8)
Dec = 6 (7)
Jan = 8 (8)
Feb = 3 (9)
Mar = 12 (5)
Apr = 4 (3)


Dang that’s wild considering we have a 6 game road trip in January. This is a perfect time to make a run then maybe early February (or before) we tinker the roster and get some added help for Feb and finish strong on March/april. I’d love to not be in the play in this year
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1659 » by MartyConlonJr » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:07 pm

carnageta wrote:Razor thin loses this year to Detroit 2x, Sacramento, and Orlando (in which we lead by 22 heading into the 4th) quarter. Had we won those 4 games we'd be 20-12 right now; 4th in the East and tied for the 7th best record in the NBA.


- Lose on a Domantis tip-in with 0.2 to Sac.
- Lose on absolute last play shenanigans vs Phoenix. That silly one where we needed a three and Rozier put a lead pass to Jimmy for 2, then he dribbled out and passed to Herro with no time left.
- Lose to Pistons in OT.
- Herro misses a 3 down 1 with 3 seconds left vs Bucks.
- 3 point loss to Toronto after just beating them 2 days before. Herro missed 3 with 28.1 secs would have tied it.
- another OT loss to Pistons after being up 8 in OT.
- drop a 22 point 4th quarter lead to Orlando.

I've got 7 woulda coulda shoulda games.

That doesn't include double digit 3rd quarter leads vs Knicks (13 points) or that second Pacers game that fell apart (tied game with 5 mins left after handedly beating them the previous game).

That is one more good possession away from 23-7 and third best in the league.
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Post#1660 » by AirP. » Mon Dec 30, 2024 8:17 pm

One of my last days off I've thrown something together.
Based on this year's stats with a minimum of 10 games played and 10 FGA/G, I've tried to narrow down the points per possession for the top 20 players meeting my criteria. Miami has 2 in the top 20.

TS% does a good job for it being a simple way of seeing scoring efficiency.

For possessions I'm using FGA + ((FTA - And1s)/2), I'm missing 1 stat of FTA by Ts (free fts from things like 3 second calls)

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+----+-----------------------+------------------+-----------+----+-----+----+----+
|Rank|Player                 |Points Per Poss   |Pts Per FGA|pts |tspct|fga |fta |
+----+-----------------------+------------------+-----------+----+-----+----+----+
|1   |Domantas Sabonis       |1.3377483443708609|1.530303   |20.9|0.669|13.7|4.4 |
|2   |Nikola Vučević         |1.3367983367983367|1.4162996  |20.7|0.664|14.6|2.2 |
|3   |Karl-Anthony Towns     |1.3291139240506329|1.5280665  |24.5|0.66 |16  |5.8 |
|4   |Nikola Jokić           |1.3169572107765453|1.5027125  |30.8|0.66 |20.5|6.4 |
|5   |DeAndre Hunter         |1.3159420289855073|1.5442177  |20.6|0.66 |13.4|5.1 |
|6   |Cameron Johnson        |1.3135011441647597|1.4986945  |19.1|0.661|12.8|3.9 |
|7   |Evan Mobley            |1.3076923076923077|1.4863389  |18.8|0.649|12.6|4.1 |
|8   |Payton Pritchard       |1.2901554404145077|1.3719008  |15.6|0.648|11.3|1.5 |
|9   |Jimmy Butler           |1.2857142857142858|1.6696832  |18.5|0.646|11.1|7.4 |
|10  |Norman Powell          |1.2741228070175439|1.4240196  |24.2|0.641|17  |4.3 |
|11  |John Collins           |1.270718232044199 |1.4330218  |17.7|0.629|12.3|3.9 |
|12  |Zach LaVine            |1.2674897119341564|1.3968254  |22  |0.634|15.8|3.6 |
|13  |Giannis Antetokounmpo  |1.2661290322580645|1.5668663  |32.7|0.632|20.9|11.3|
|14  |Darius Garland         |1.264344262295082 |1.3834081  |20.6|0.634|14.9|3.1 |
|15  |Shai Gilgeous-Alexander|1.263157894736842 |1.4814814  |31  |0.635|20.9|7.9 |
|16  |Michael Porter Jr.     |1.259009009009009 |1.3634146  |18.6|0.628|13.7|2.7 |
|17  |Kevin Durant           |1.2441113490364026|1.4488778  |27.7|0.625|19.1|6.9 |
|18  |Tyler Herro            |1.243103448275862 |1.3733333  |24  |0.623|17.5|4.1 |
|19  |Chet Holmgren          |1.2424242424242424|1.4774774  |16.4|0.619|11.1|4.9 |
|20  |Pascal Siakam          |1.240530303030303 |1.3731656  |19.8|0.619|14.5|3.6 |
+----+-----------------------+------------------+-----------+----+-----+----+----+

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