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2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1681 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:11 pm

Apparently the Bulls could’ve had a 1st for Lonzo at the deadline if they agreed to take on Marcus Smart lol
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Post#1682 » by vagelis » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:18 pm

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vagelis wrote:The Lonzo Ball trade means that Garland will be traded away soon from Cleveland.

Does Miami have interest for him?
Very good player but he didn't fit well with Mitchell


Lonzo has a crazy injury history, one of the top contending teams isn’t going to trade away their all star PG and put all their faith in Lonzo like that imo. If so then yea we should but I highly doubt it. I also doubt we’d be willing to pay the price to get him seeing as our tactic for landing all star level players seems to be lowballing and praying for the best


My assumption is that they will not rely on Lonzo Ball and they want him as backup of Mitchell.
So, imo they will trade Garland for a bigger player at sg position in order to add height and athleticism in their starting lineup which was short at the guards(although they have enough height at the bigs)
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1683 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:21 pm

vagelis wrote:
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vagelis wrote:The Lonzo Ball trade means that Garland will be traded away soon from Cleveland.

Does Miami have interest for him?
Very good player but he didn't fit well with Mitchell


Lonzo has a crazy injury history, one of the top contending teams isn’t going to trade away their all star PG and put all their faith in Lonzo like that imo. If so then yea we should but I highly doubt it. I also doubt we’d be willing to pay the price to get him seeing as our tactic for landing all star level players seems to be lowballing and praying for the best


My assumption is that they will not rely on Lonzo Ball and they want him as backup of Mitchell.
So, imo they will trade Garland for a bigger player at sg position in order to add height and athleticism in their starting lineup which was short at the guards.


So you think they move Mitchell to PG? I’ve said for years that’s his best position and he kills when Garland is out but who knows. If they can get an all star level 2 or 3 for Garland and move Mitchell to PG I think it raises their ceiling
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1684 » by dubasilva » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:30 pm

carnageta wrote:2nds for Wiggins is getting pennies on the dollar. Wiggins is a premiere 3&D wing in this league, and is better than the likes of Caruso, KCP, etc. He is comparable (in terms of impact) to Derrick White, Aaron Gordon, etc. etc. I don't think we should just rid of him for the sake of getting rid of him - I think we should be patient and look to get equal value in return - which would be either:

a) a first round pick + a productive vet, or
b) a young asset + a productive vet


I agree with you, but it doesn't seem that the teams are willing to give us a first-round pick. So far, I've seen Wiggins for a bunch of backups with expiring contracts.

Maybe he's not seen around the league worth a 1st. I hope that I'm wrong.
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Post#1685 » by vagelis » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:32 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
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Lonzo has a crazy injury history, one of the top contending teams isn’t going to trade away their all star PG and put all their faith in Lonzo like that imo. If so then yea we should but I highly doubt it. I also doubt we’d be willing to pay the price to get him seeing as our tactic for landing all star level players seems to be lowballing and praying for the best


My assumption is that they will not rely on Lonzo Ball and they want him as backup of Mitchell.
So, imo they will trade Garland for a bigger player at sg position in order to add height and athleticism in their starting lineup which was short at the guards.


So you think they move Mitchell to PG? I’ve said for years that’s his best position and he kills when Garland is out but who knows. If they can get an all star level 2 or 3 for Garland and move Mitchell to PG I think it raises their ceiling


I think they will move Mitchell to PG yes.
I didn't read it anywhere, just this is the most reasonable move imo.
There is no need to have 2 short pgs in the starting lineup even if they are both very good
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1686 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:49 pm

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12 per puts his deal on par with TJ McConnell so not bad at all. We are over the tax line so almost seems like a foregone conclusion Duncan is getting axed.
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Post#1687 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:49 pm

Hell yea Davion!! Solid deal
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Post#1688 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:50 pm

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Post#1689 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:51 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1690 » by carnageta » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:52 pm

dubasilva wrote:
carnageta wrote:2nds for Wiggins is getting pennies on the dollar. Wiggins is a premiere 3&D wing in this league, and is better than the likes of Caruso, KCP, etc. He is comparable (in terms of impact) to Derrick White, Aaron Gordon, etc. etc. I don't think we should just rid of him for the sake of getting rid of him - I think we should be patient and look to get equal value in return - which would be either:

a) a first round pick + a productive vet, or
b) a young asset + a productive vet


I agree with you, but it doesn't seem that the teams are willing to give us a first-round pick. So far, I've seen Wiggins for a bunch of backups with expiring contracts.

Maybe he's not seen around the league worth a 1st. I hope that I'm wrong.


Yeah dude. It's early so we need to be patient imo. We shouldn't necessarily be in a rush at this point.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1691 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:53 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1692 » by HeatIn5 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:56 pm

Amazing deal for Davion
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1693 » by HeatingUp3 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:57 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:
Read on Twitter

12 per puts his deal on par with TJ McConnell so not bad at all. We are over the tax line so almost seems like a foregone conclusion Duncan is getting axed.


I was wondering when we goona dump him.
You mean we gonna trade him?
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Post#1694 » by twix2500 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:57 pm

I will say this Kuminga is not a good halfcourt player, he needs to play in transition like Toppin. I think Toppin is the prototype for Kuminga

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1695 » by DayofMourning » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:58 pm

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12 per puts his deal on par with TJ McConnell so not bad at all. We are over the tax line so almost seems like a foregone conclusion Duncan is getting axed.


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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1696 » by twix2500 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 5:59 pm

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Read on Twitter

12 per puts his deal on par with TJ McConnell so not bad at all. We are over the tax line so almost seems like a foregone conclusion Duncan is getting axed.
I don't think the Heat will waive him. There will be a trade sooner or later to reduce the roster.

In fact I think Golden State is the perfect spot for Duncan.

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1697 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jun 28, 2025 6:00 pm

twix2500 wrote:I will say this Kuminga is not a good halfcourt player, he needs to play in transition like Toppin. I think Toppin is the prototype for Kuminga

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Except Toppin can shoot and makes $14M a year.
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Post#1698 » by CrossOver » Sat Jun 28, 2025 6:02 pm

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Post#1699 » by twix2500 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 6:08 pm

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twix2500 wrote:I will say this Kuminga is not a good halfcourt player, he needs to play in transition like Toppin. I think Toppin is the prototype for Kuminga

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Except Toppin can shoot and makes $14M a year.
Toppin is a better player

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 3 

Post#1700 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jun 28, 2025 6:08 pm

Time to renegotiate the Duncan contract and call it a summer.
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