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2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1801 » by VaDe255 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:40 pm

SoFlaKingReal wrote:They aren't going to go "all-in".

They aren't going to blow up the roster.


So where does that leave us? Running it back again.


- They make some deals to potentially turn Terry/Duncan into better rotation pieces
- Mitchell gets resigned
- Herro gets max extension

Pretty sure, this is what is going to happen
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1802 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:43 pm

VaDe255 wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:They aren't going to go "all-in".

They aren't going to blow up the roster.


So where does that leave us? Running it back again.


- They make some deals to potentially turn Terry/Duncan into better rotation pieces
- Mitchell gets resigned
- Herro gets max extension

Pretty sure, this is what is going to happen

This is exactly what is going to happen. Duncan’s deal is too valuable not to put in play to a team in desperate need of apron help. Even Rozier offers savings to a non playoff team in a buyout.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1803 » by ZoStrong » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:47 pm

SoFlaKingReal wrote:They aren't going to go "all-in".

They aren't going to blow up the roster.


So where does that leave us? Running it back again.




KD was not an "all-in" or nothing move. It was an opportunity to add an aging talent at a bargain price.
And the off-season isn't over!

The in-house development, bench upgrade, hopefully a new starting pg through trade or draft, it's all still out there. This team needs a pg more than KD.

The overreaction of the fan base is just ridiculous
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1804 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:52 pm

Houston just added KD and still has the assets to get Giannis if he ever decided to ask out. Takes notes Patrick.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1805 » by SA37 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:54 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:I know not popular with many but Jrue Holliday could still be an option in a Boston Salary dump for Rozier and Highsmith. This group needs to be led by a tough vet PG that can play defense and help the young guys out. Holliday with Mitchell behind him could be a force defensive pairing.


Yeah, or Miami could make a smaller deal to acquire Smart from Washington, like Rozier/Robinson for Smart or something like that. Holiday is more complete than Smart, but Smart would bring all the defense/championship experience of Holiday for a fraction of the price and commitment.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1806 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:54 pm

Get Wiggins on one of the LA teams and try to get a draft pick out of it with some expiring’s.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1807 » by MettaWorldPanda » Sun Jun 22, 2025 8:56 pm

SA37 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:I know not popular with many but Jrue Holliday could still be an option in a Boston Salary dump for Rozier and Highsmith. This group needs to be led by a tough vet PG that can play defense and help the young guys out. Holliday with Mitchell behind him could be a force defensive pairing.


Yeah, or Miami could make a smaller deal to acquire Smart from Washington, like Rozier/Robinson for Smart or something like that. Holiday is more complete than Smart, but Smart would bring all the defense/championship experience of Holiday for a fraction of the price and commitment.

Herro and Bam desperately need a vet PG that’s gritty and can keep things steady when chit is going rough like Lowry did. I like Mitchell a lot but having Holliday or Smart with there experience and Mitchell keeping them fresh off the bench would help this group out a ton.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1808 » by batterybro42 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:01 pm

It’s time to get him back and finally bring him home once and for all

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1809 » by Vertical Limit » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:03 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Get Wiggins on one of the LA teams and try to get a draft pick out of it with some expiring’s.

Hachimura (18m expiring)
Kleber (11m expiring)
Lottery protected first

For Wiggins

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1810 » by SA37 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:03 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Get Wiggins on one of the LA teams and try to get a draft pick out of it with some expiring’s.


I don't like Wiggins, but I am not sure he has enough value to get Miami a better player with his championship experience.

I still think Miami needs a scorer and DeRozan is available for as cheap as it gets. But Spo and Miami hate offense.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1811 » by CWebb2491 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:05 pm

Had the chance to get a lottery pick… f’d that up

Made the playoffs, lost in historical fashion.

Struck out ON ANOTHER star who demanded Miami as one of top choices

At what point does the front office take responsibility and say you know what? We didn’t deliver with this iteration of Miami Heat basketball…..

When do you say let’s garner assets and rebuild or to flip their best players for picks for other star players?

At this point, how do you justify extending Herro? And if you don’t extend him, how do you justify not getting the Bane package?

Is Miami not doing their due diligence? Checking to see what teams would offer for Herro coming off his best season?

Fans need to hit them where it hurts.

Stop going to games

Stop buying jerseys, merchandise….

Demand better.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1812 » by Wiltside » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:11 pm

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1813 » by batterybro42 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:11 pm

I do think we end up drafting a rotational player that ends up being pretty decent.

Max Cap space in a year

Heat can be patient, it’s not a bad situation we are looking at here pretty soon
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1814 » by Rapaz » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:15 pm

Congratulations, Houston. It was a pleasure doing business with y'all. Really, you've got a class organization and a top-tier front office (unlike those dopes down in Miami).


Edit: Wrong forum. Good luck getting Giannis Donovan Lillard Fox Ingram Durant Derozan Kuminga John Konchar.

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1815 » by SoFlaKingReal » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:16 pm

ZoStrong wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:They aren't going to go "all-in".

They aren't going to blow up the roster.


So where does that leave us? Running it back again.




KD was not an "all-in" or nothing move. It was an opportunity to add an aging talent at a bargain price.
And the off-season isn't over!

The in-house development, bench upgrade, hopefully a new starting pg through trade or draft, it's all still out there. This team needs a pg more than KD.

The overreaction of the fan base is just ridiculous


Based on the Suns asking price on KD, it would have required to go all-in basically.

You would have been left with KD, Bam, Herro, Ware and little to no assets to add to that.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1816 » by SoFlaKingReal » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:18 pm

ZoStrong wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:They aren't going to go "all-in".

They aren't going to blow up the roster.


So where does that leave us? Running it back again.




KD was not an "all-in" or nothing move. It was an opportunity to add an aging talent at a bargain price.
And the off-season isn't over!

The in-house development, bench upgrade, hopefully a new starting pg through trade or draft, it's all still out there. This team needs a pg more than KD.

The overreaction of the fan base is just ridiculous


I'm over the blind optimism....I held water for this front office for a while now. But, at this point, its obvious we are ****. KD would have been a nice distraction from the reality of the situation. Losing out on KD doesn't really matter in the long run, in fact we are probably better off keeping the future picks.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1817 » by Voltron914 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:19 pm

batterybro42 wrote:I do think we end up drafting a rotational player that ends up being pretty decent.

Max Cap space in a year

Heat can be patient, it’s not a bad situation we are looking at here pretty soon



Im not mad at it especially seeing what houston had to offer. We simply are not there for a championship run and u cant keep building on top of a shaky foundation. Search for some productive role players and give the youngins some run.
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1818 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:21 pm

SoFlaKingReal wrote:
ZoStrong wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:They aren't going to go "all-in".

They aren't going to blow up the roster.


So where does that leave us? Running it back again.




KD was not an "all-in" or nothing move. It was an opportunity to add an aging talent at a bargain price.
And the off-season isn't over!

The in-house development, bench upgrade, hopefully a new starting pg through trade or draft, it's all still out there. This team needs a pg more than KD.

The overreaction of the fan base is just ridiculous


I'm over the blind optimism....I held water for this front office for a while now. But, at this point, it’s obvious we are ****.


Props to you for being able to admit it
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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1819 » by contract » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:25 pm

Vertical Limit wrote:What a massive overpay by Houston.. good lord… for 37 year old Durant? Jalen Green a young up and comer star, dillon brooks and the #10 and all those seconds? There is no way :lol: i am so relieved we didnt do such a stupid transaction.

Here im afraid we would give up 2 firsts, and the rockets give up everything for an old durant

Once again saved from our own stupidity.

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Re: 2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 2 

Post#1820 » by MiamiLoyal926 » Sun Jun 22, 2025 9:26 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Houston just added KD and still has the assets to get Giannis if he ever decided to ask out. Takes notes Patrick.


Cannot have both ways 3ammy. Every summer you want to empty the clip on past-their-prime players, but you then want to also have the assets ready to trade for in-their-prime all star players as well. When we do not have the assets, you lash out at Riley and Co. We are inching closer to restocking our assets, and by holding firm to not overpay for Dame and KD, we may soon have all our draft capital finally restocked.

The one spot I wish Riley did better was having the forethought to trade a player like Jimmy, Martin, Nunn, etc. before they either hit free agency or are in control of their destination because they are on their last year (Jimmy). We need Riley to turn players into trades or assets. Only problem with that approach is then players start to see us as sellers and not loyal. It has the potential to negatively impact player buy-in. The other area is we need to stop overpaying for our homegrown players… which we later need to trade away with second round picks to get out of. In a nutshell, we need to do better with our management of picks, while not bidding against ourselves on our own free agents.

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