Miami Heat Offseason Thread Vol. 3: Fraudfather Snoozin

[BBallFreak]

Derozan not happening, would require too much thinking out of Pat to navigate this

Supposedly, and I'll believe it when I see it, Ainge really likes Herro. Get a first for him and cap space, even if we don't get DD.

[Daffy]

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Definitely shows flashes of being a unicorn in this league.

Who’s jovic favorite player? He doesn’t seem to have any signature moves. Most of his moves are very minimal if that makes sense?

His favorite player is Dru Smith. That's why they brought him back.

I'm joking. I know I've heard him mention guys such as Jokic, Jordan and Westbrook as guys he's admired.

[lastb1ckman]

Lowry brought us a real PG and made us super competitive. How quickly people forget what having a real PG did for this team

A full season with Roizer starting, adding Demar and moving Herro to the bench might have a better offense than we think. Atleast better than last season lol

[batterybro42]

2026 is the year Miami is targeting for a major roster overhaul

Bam
Niko
Ware
Jamie

Are pieces that will transition to the new core, Miami may be able to carve out a player or two more before that time. Taking on a Derozan or somebody who doesn’t cost you one of those pieces and doesn’t tie up cap space in an offseason where Miami can add potentially 2 max players is the goal. You may not like it you may not have the patience for it but that offseason is 2010 2.0

Notable UFA in 2026

Luka
Embiid
Trae Young
SGA
Fox

This has been the thinking for some time and it’s difficult for a front office I am sure to openly communicate something like that this far out, but the idea of adding Luka and SGA potentially as far fetched as it is to a core like that is something that should be protected as adding one of those guys is a franchise altering move.

Let’s just look at the Mavs for example. They have an aging Kyrie and Klay Thompson in a very tough growing Western Conference. If they can’t get over the hump these next two years are they in a position to keep Luka? I don’t think so. Luka could find himself in a similar position as LeBron entering the 2010 free agency.

The pitch to Luka isn’t a hard one

Hey we are going to give you the best Coach in the game

Bam
Jamie
Niko
Ware

Oh and we can bring in another max player with you

If a short term upgrade can be had great, but as a fan I have no issues riding out these next two seasons until that summer arrives. Just don’t extend Butler, and don’t add some mid tier star that we will have issues moving going into the offseason. At some point Herro has to go but there is no rush to do so, would love to get a pick or two for him.

[Daffy]

Derozan not happening, would require too much thinking out of Pat to navigate this

Supposedly, and I'll believe it when I see it, Ainge really likes Herro. Get a first for him and cap space, even if we don't get DD.

What are you basing this Ainge really likes Herro on?

[heater4life]

As much as this team needs a change, trading Herro for Derozan is idiotic. Much less attaching a pick to get it done.

[Daffy]

2026 is the year Miami is targeting for a major roster overhaul

Bam
Niko
Ware
Jamie

Are pieces that will transition to the new core, Miami may be able to carve out a player or two more before that time. Taking on a Derozan or somebody who doesn’t cost you one of those pieces and doesn’t tie up cap space in an offseason where Miami can add potentially 2 max players is the goal. You may not like it you may not have the patience for it but that offseason is 2010 2.0

Notable UFA in 2026

Luka
Embiid
Trae Young
SGA
Fox

This has been the thinking for some time and it’s difficult for a front office I am sure to openly communicate something like that this far out, but the idea of adding Luka and SGA potentially as far fetched as it is to a core like that is something that should be protected as adding one of those guys is a franchise altering move.

Let’s just look at the Mavs for example. They have an aging Kyrie and Klay Thompson in a very tough growing Western Conference. If they can’t get over the hump these next two years are they in a position to keep Luka? I don’t think so. Luka could find himself in a similar position as LeBron entering the 2010 free agency.

The pitch to Luka isn’t a hard one

Hey we are going to give you the best Coach in the game

Bam
Jamie
Niko
Ware

Oh and we can bring in another max player with you

If a short term upgrade can be had great, but as a fan I have no issues riding out these next two seasons until that summer arrives

Wouldn't Jaime and Niko be up for contracts at that point too as well? Not sure if we'd be able to afford two max players.

[Daffy]

As much as this team needs a change, trading Herro for Derozan is idiotic. Much less attaching a pick to get it done.

This fan base would trade Herro and a first to acquire someone off of this forum if they could. I just ignore it at this point. It's one thing to trade him for something sensible. Remember when everyone wanted Duncan traded for those slumps?

[BBallFreak]

Derozan not happening, would require too much thinking out of Pat to navigate this

Supposedly, and I'll believe it when I see it, Ainge really likes Herro. Get a first for him and cap space, even if we don't get DD.

What are you basing this Ainge really likes Herro on?

https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/report-celtics-were-very-much-enamored-with-tyler-herro-whom-heat-took-one-pick-before-boston

https://www.si.com/nba/jazz/news/jazz-trade-rumors-connected-heat-tyler-herro

[Daffy]

Lowry brought us a real PG and made us super competitive. How quickly people forget what having a real PG did for this team

A full season with Roizer starting, adding Demar and moving Herro to the bench might have a better offense than we think. Atleast better than last season lol

I can dig it.

[BBallFreak]

As much as this team needs a change, trading Herro for Derozan is idiotic. Much less attaching a pick to get it done.

This fan base would trade Herro and a first to acquire someone off of this forum if they could. I just ignore it at this point. It's one thing to trade him for something sensible. Remember when everyone wanted Duncan traded for those slumps?

There is good reason for that. He makes far too much money, won't come off the bench, and is injured far too much. I loved the guy, truly, but he continually let's me down. Enough is enough. He's crippling us as the third guy.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Derozan not happening, would require too much thinking out of Pat to navigate this

Supposedly, and I'll believe it when I see it, Ainge really likes Herro. Get a first for him and cap space, even if we don't get DD.

What are you basing this Ainge really likes Herro on?

Once upon a time many many years ago Ainge liked Herro coming out of the draft. Almost guaranteed he don’t like him anymore under his current deal.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

He's the vet scorer they've needed since Dragic was done with that injury in the bubble. It does more than you think but I wouldn't expect him to score as much as he did last year.

He's not, just check his playoff stats, absolutely awful and he is 35y now, no thank you.

He was horrible in the playoffs when he was in Toronto but he's gotten better while staying the #1 option, he's not going to be the #1 option in the playoffs for Miami, just the regular season. His career average in the playoffs is nearly 22 ppg but took nearly 19 shots.

Right now, at SG, Herro has a career playoffs average of 14.3 ppg on 12.7 shots.

DeRozan isn't a good defender, but he's better than Herro is and can play the 2-4, he played PF in San Antonio.

It's a short term move to get DeRozan for an upgrade on the roster, this isn't a long-term option, maybe Miami can time the older player's contracts to be expiring all at the same time to have a chance to make some big moves in free agency also S&Ts for a soft rebuild around Bam.

God Herro sucks, Jesus Christ

[iamoti]

to be fair if Herro doesn't accept a 6th man role he has no place here. Duncan is much more valuable in the starting lineup

[Enso]

fk that let LA give him a 3 year contract not going down that road again with what happened with Lowry

We made it to the finals with Lowry. As a matter of fact I would say Lowry was a lot more important to our first seed and finals run then Herro was.

I'm not talking about the impact he had the first couple of years just the length of the contract. Derozan on anything more than a 1+1 isn't interesting.

[batterybro42]

2026 is the year Miami is targeting for a major roster overhaul

Bam
Niko
Ware
Jamie

Are pieces that will transition to the new core, Miami may be able to carve out a player or two more before that time. Taking on a Derozan or somebody who doesn’t cost you one of those pieces and doesn’t tie up cap space in an offseason where Miami can add potentially 2 max players is the goal. You may not like it you may not have the patience for it but that offseason is 2010 2.0

Notable UFA in 2026

Luka
Embiid
Trae Young
SGA
Fox

This has been the thinking for some time and it’s difficult for a front office I am sure to openly communicate something like that this far out, but the idea of adding Luka and SGA potentially as far fetched as it is to a core like that is something that should be protected as adding one of those guys is a franchise altering move.

Let’s just look at the Mavs for example. They have an aging Kyrie and Klay Thompson in a very tough growing Western Conference. If they can’t get over the hump these next two years are they in a position to keep Luka? I don’t think so. Luka could find himself in a similar position as LeBron entering the 2010 free agency.

The pitch to Luka isn’t a hard one

Hey we are going to give you the best Coach in the game

Bam
Jamie
Niko
Ware

Oh and we can bring in another max player with you

If a short term upgrade can be had great, but as a fan I have no issues riding out these next two seasons until that summer arrives

Wouldn't Jaime and Niko be up for contracts at that point too as well? Not sure if we'd be able to afford two max players.

Jamie will be on a team option, and Niko will be under bird rights at that time, and we will only be responsible for his cap hold which will be 150% of his 4.5 mil salary in 2026 applied to the cap before completing his deal.

[AirP.]

As much as this team needs a change, trading Herro for Derozan is idiotic. Much less attaching a pick to get it done.

I wouldn't attach a pick, I expect draft assets (possibly just 2nds) coming back with a Herro trade, depending on the trade.

[Daffy]

Supposedly, and I'll believe it when I see it, Ainge really likes Herro. Get a first for him and cap space, even if we don't get DD.

What are you basing this Ainge really likes Herro on?

https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/report-celtics-were-very-much-enamored-with-tyler-herro-whom-heat-took-one-pick-before-boston

https://www.si.com/nba/jazz/news/jazz-trade-rumors-connected-heat-tyler-herro

I feel like the Ainge connections are based off a draft that happened years ago. I also see the Jazz getting ready to tank for Flagg now that they're trying to offload Lauri.

[MettaWorldPanda]

This is leaning towards DeRozan taking over the Herro contract. I can’t say i would be too upset with that.

[MettaWorldPanda]

fk that let LA give him a 3 year contract not going down that road again with what happened with Lowry

We made it to the finals with Lowry. As a matter of fact I would say Lowry was a lot more important to our first seed and finals run then Herro was.

I'm not talking about the impact he had the first couple of years just the length of the contract. Derozan on anything more than a 1+1 isn't interesting.

Beggars can’t be choosers