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2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 6 - Get Jimmy BUTTWART the FOX Outta Here

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 6 - Get Jimmy BUTTWART the FOX Outta Here 

Post#21 » by Vertical Limit » Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:25 pm

Pokuokic wrote:So Heat fans think Memphis has to give up Wells plus picks in a deal for Butler a past his prime disgruntled player, but Ware is off limits for Fox a in his prime Allstar PG

Na the memphis dont have to give us a talent. Would be nice if we can get even a protected first out of them, so that we can offer that should we need assets to sign and trade in 2026 offseason..

Any 2025 or 2026 expiring would do fine.. im sure the heat would like at least 20-25 million to expire in 2025 for apron/tax purposes..

If marcus smart comes in with the jimmy trade thats a bonus. We need help at point guard.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 6 - Get Jimmy BUTTWART the FOX Outta Here 

Post#22 » by Flash4thewin » Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:29 pm

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marson wrote:Feels like it’s going to be Memphis. We've had a lot of big trades with them, like the Posey/Williams deal and the Iggy/Crowder trade.

It might be like, "We'll get back to you if nothing better comes along"

Bucks or Grizzlies seem like the two teams. Don’t think Grizz go with it unless Bernie and Butler call them saying he’s motivated to help win a chip. Butler is a very mercurial gamble for the Grizz and have to be careful the effect he could have in that lockerroom after he’s already thrown shade on them in the media by saying no to Memphis. That’s a good young team with solid chemistry.


The Grizz seem unlikely because of what you mentioned. If anything they will trade nothing of value.

The Bucks are motivated and have pieces we can use for a playoff run but are in the East. They have a punchers chance to win a ring with a motivated on the war path Jimmy out for blood. The amount of egg on the face, first Lebron leaves and wins two rings, then if Jimmy leaves and helps the Bucks win another ring, ouch.

Suns have low value picks but picks and a player who can help us. Beal contract becomes less of an issue with Herro getting his extension this fall. Odds of them winning a ring are unlikely so that would be an additional bonus to Pat and his ego.

The cap will go up so Beal will ball out, it just comes down to do you think he takes a paycut and doesnt opt out or if he opts out to get his last good contract before age destroys his value. Beal is all about the money, more likely than not he will opt out $$$. The only draw back is if he gets hurt.

Worst option is we do nothing, Jimmy comes back and just destroys the team from the inside. We saw how much happier and free Bam played with Jimmy gone. At this point its take the best of the worst options. Remember team suspension dont impact the cap, league suspension do. So we can try to fine Jimmy, it wont impact our cap and the Union will make sure he gets paid. Best to move him asap.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 6 - Get Jimmy BUTTWART the FOX Outta Here 

Post#23 » by BlueHeat » Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:33 pm

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Post#24 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:40 pm

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 6 - Get Jimmy BUTTWART the FOX Outta Here 

Post#26 » by Rapaz » Fri Jan 31, 2025 2:54 pm

BlueHeat wrote:Is today the day fellas?

It’s as good a day as any to get a buttwart removed.
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Send him to the wizards!!!! Basketball purgatory!!!

It’s easy to say that but why would the Wizards or any bad team want that problem unless greatly incentivized?
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 6 - Get Jimmy BUTTWART the FOX Outta Here 

Post#29 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jan 31, 2025 3:32 pm

Have the Suns even approached Beal on what teams he would approve? You would think a list would have been leaked already.
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Post#30 » by Beenie » Fri Jan 31, 2025 3:53 pm

If Beal renounces his no trade clause would Mia take him and the 3 picks at this point?

Not inconceivable that Beal has a bounce back season next year and repairs some of his value
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 6 - Get Jimmy BUTTWART the FOX Outta Here 

Post#31 » by Daffy » Fri Jan 31, 2025 3:59 pm

On a serious note as much as I want to move on from Rozier I hope he's innocent. If he's guilty then he gets what he deserves. I also hope he isn't innocent and punished because he can't prove his innocence.

I've never had to deal with a federal investigation, but I'm pretty sure even though he's rich and can afford a good lawyer it must still be nerve wrecking.

End of the day he's still a human and as far as we know he's innocent until proven guilty.
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Post#33 » by DayofMourning » Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:06 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:Have the Suns even approached Beal on what teams he would approve? You would think a list would have been leaked already.


The NTC thing....can it be stricken from his contract? I realize the player would like it to be there, but could we trade for Beal only if he promises to waive the NTC?
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Post#34 » by Lennyzinho » Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:24 pm

Beenie wrote:If Beal renounces his no trade clause would Mia take him and the 3 picks at this point?

Not inconceivable that Beal has a bounce back season next year and repairs some of his value


Yes, I believe we would take Beal if he waived his NTC.
Someone else asked and yes, his contract can be amended to remove the clause for future trades. He needs to agree to it, i just don't see why he would if he wants to stay in PHX.

He'd at the very least make Pat do a handshake promise that he'd stay on the team thru the end of next year 2025-2026. I'd actually be open to it, if it meant getting Beal, 2 of those frp's, and then send the 3rd to Chicago and dump rozier and get lonzo or send it to Toronto and rozier for bruce brown.

That'd fix our guard situation and rotation immediately.

I dont love it. But it'd be value and we'd be better. Dumping rozier at this point is as important as dumping Jimmy
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 6 - Get Jimmy BUTTWART the FOX Outta Here 

Post#35 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:27 pm

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MettaWorldPanda wrote:Have the Suns even approached Beal on what teams he would approve? You would think a list would have been leaked already.


The NTC thing....can it be stricken from his contract? I realize the player would like it to be there, but could we trade for Beal only if he promises to waive the NTC?

His agent already said there’s a zero percent chance of that happening. Yes he can waive it but will never do it. No incentive to do that when it opens the door for his desired destination to trade to a not so desirable one during life of contract
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 6 - Get Jimmy BUTTWART the FOX Outta Here 

Post#36 » by Daffy » Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:28 pm

Even if we take Beal and he waives his NYC isn't the issue that his contract runs into the year where Miami wants to be cap free?
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Post#38 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:29 pm

Man I was just about to ask why there’s been no Ingram news lol
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Post#39 » by MettaWorldPanda » Fri Jan 31, 2025 4:31 pm

Daffy wrote:Even if we take Beal and he waives his NYC isn't the issue that his contract runs into the year where Miami wants to be cap free?

Yes and that number increases to 57 million. All this talk about Beal waiving his golden goose NTC is hardcore pipe dream fan fiction. I don’t doubt he’ll turn down coming here but for sure that NTC is coming with him. It’s one of Bartlestein’s greatest achievements
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