Mia @ The Lebby's, 12/1, 7:30pm

[jbk1234]

IN

Thanks again for the reverse jinx, Iggy.

[Bishop45]

Going 0-6 from 3pt range Duncan is now under 32% from 3pt range for the season.

It's like someone splashed him with some type of retromutagen;

one of the best shooter's in the world one day, no longer an NBA player the next

[AirP.]

Going 0-6 from 3pt range Duncan is now under 32% from 3pt range for the season.

It's like someone splashed him with some type of retromutagen;

one of the best shooter's in the world one day, no longer an NBA player the next

He's above 38% from 3pt range on the road, but at home, he's now under 22%(after tonight's game).

[contract]

Duncan Robinson in 20 mins:

0 pts 0 rebs 0 ast

Good job good effort…

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Going 0-6 from 3pt range Duncan is now under 32% from 3pt range for the season.

It's like someone splashed him with some type of retromutagen;

one of the best shooter's in the world one day, no longer an NBA player the next

He's above 38% from 3pt range on the road, but at home, he's now under 22%(after tonight's game).

Amazing.

[contract]

...

You too.

[somerandomdude]

one thing I learned is our small ball lineup is a sure way to get blown out by other teams.

Especially against large teams

It's funny because you would think that after being dominated all game, we'd stop going to it. Instead, we saw KZ at Center.

[Bishop45]

...

You too.

Watch on YouTube

[somerandomdude]

guys... yurt is ready to play at least 5 to 10 minutes even though some might think he is not... spo doesn't need excuses... even he knows by now he is not an incredible coach... each has just gotten lucky with our GM

When we're losing games by 20 and 30pts, it really doesn't matter if he's ready or not, because the guys who dug us in these huge deficits clearly aren't ready and it's not like Yurtz can do worse than them.

[somerandomdude]

Even if Yurts plays like **** he puts everyone else into more natural positions. Over time with reps he will get faster with the game. Hes a big body 7ft that we need playing right now

He can shoot 3s, he can rebound, he can block shots, he can clog the paint defensively which allows us to play more man-to-man instead of zone, he can set solid screens just because of his body.

Pretty much everything the Heat need right now.

[SerialChiller]

Decided to skip this one...I knew what was coming, I'm glad I did.

[MHeat0279]

Don’t care what anyone says. Even without Jimmy there is no reason for this team to get destroyed like this. To me, this is a coaching issue. You don’t play the exact same way as you would with completely different personnel. You also don’t stick to game plans that don’t work. Not just within the game, but game to game. What is the point of a scheme that is meant to consistently give up open 3s in a league that is more focused on the 3 point shot than ever? Just because 3 point shooting comes at a premium on our team, doesn’t mean it does around the league.

For the most part it has always been a coaching issue, only Spo fanatics do not see this, i will repeat what i have been saying for years now, he is not a good coach, no matter what NBA TV tells you, its obvious watching his strategies coming out of time outs, hes ingame adjustments that he doesnt have a clue what he is doing out there. The starting center for this game should have been Yurt ( period) Dedmond is definitely suited to come off the bench, our coach should have known by now. I get Yurt is not our ideal starting center right now, but guess what, we dont have any other option, you do not go small just because he is not ready to be in the starting rotation, you will get killed playing our brand of small ball, this is not new it has been happening season after season. Where is the adjustment, where is the adjustment to stop the barrage of threes we get night after night? there is no adjustment at all and you know why there is not adjustment to our pathetic play, because Spo either doesnt see it or wants to impose his failed strategies night after night, either way it will lead to failure. This team needs to turn it around right now, drop all your failed experiments you want to impose, play conventional basketball with centers, power forwards, guards and pointguards, no more midgets masquerading as centers, no more people out of positions and give our only hope to fix this problem a chance.

[AirP.]

Even if Yurts plays like **** he puts everyone else into more natural positions. Over time with reps he will get faster with the game. Hes a big body 7ft that we need playing right now

He can shoot 3s, he can rebound, he can block shots, he can clog the paint defensively which allows us to play more man-to-man instead of zone, he can set solid screens just because of his body.

Pretty much everything the Heat need right now.

Although Yurtseven has those skills the issue if Yurtseven is constantly out of position because he doens't know the offenses/defenses like most rookies it's quite possible that it is going to cause long term problems for a lot of teammates this season even when Butler and Bam are back. A vet has years of experience in the NBA to possibly know where he's supposed to be in an NBA defense/offense, a talented rookie not so much, it takes a lot of reptation of running plays correctly which is what you get in practice.

Also, depending on the young player's mindset, you could do a lot of damage to a player by putting him in a situation for him to fail and possibly get teammates angry with him because he's not making the simple reads properly or being in the right places for team defense/offense.

This situation falls on the FO/Coaching staff who have just refused to add legit bigs to the roster, even at the very end of the roster, had Yurtseven done as well in summer league where other teams were looking at him, he probably wouldn't have been signed to a regular contract this season.

Miami just needs to go out and get a center who understands how to play within an NBA offense/defense which usually means a vet, probably not a talented vet but at this point Miami just needs someone who knows how to play the position in the NBA and has some size.

[MorbidHEAT]

Going 0-6 from 3pt range Duncan is now under 32% from 3pt range for the season.

It's like someone splashed him with some type of retromutagen;

one of the best shooter's in the world one day, no longer an NBA player the next

He's above 38% from 3pt range on the road, but at home, he's now under 22%(after tonight's game).

Maybe he read this forum and now he fears he can't live up to the expectations at home.

[somerandomdude]

Spoiler:

Even if Yurts plays like **** he puts everyone else into more natural positions. Over time with reps he will get faster with the game. Hes a big body 7ft that we need playing right now

He can shoot 3s, he can rebound, he can block shots, he can clog the paint defensively which allows us to play more man-to-man instead of zone, he can set solid screens just because of his body.

Pretty much everything the Heat need right now.

Although Yurtseven has those skills the issue if Yurtseven is constantly out of position because he doens't know the offenses/defenses like most rookies it's quite possible that it is going to cause long term problems for a lot of teammates this season even when Butler and Bam are back. A vet has years of experience in the NBA to possibly know where he's supposed to be in an NBA defense/offense, a talented rookie not so much, it takes a lot of reptation of running plays correctly which is what you get in practice.

The thing is, we have these complex rotations to hide our deficiencies on defense because we play small, which is already a losing strategy.

When you think about it, a Center is never supposed to be out far out on the perimeter on defense, at least traditionally.

They stay near the paint and help you play better man-to-man defense by keeping the paint clogged and providing help for your perimeter defenders.

Miami just needs to go out and get a center who understands how to play within an NBA offense/defense which usually means a vet, probably not a talented vet but at this point Miami just needs someone who knows how to play the position in the NBA and has some size.

Agreed, or start finding out what we have in Yurtz. I'm not expecting him to fill up the stat sheet, but I do expect that his size alone will help out. Plus, he's shown he can knock down the 3, which gives him potential to play alongside Bam.

[AirP.]

Agreed, or start finding out what we have in Yurtz. I'm not expecting him to fill up the stat sheet, but I do expect that his size alone will help out. Plus, he's shown he can knock down the 3, which gives him potential to play alongside Bam.

I would expect that the coaching staff and FO currently knows what they have in Yurtseven and that's why he's seen a total of 41 minutes this year.

The only reason I can see that a team that has Championship aspirations would utilize someone like Yurtseven in this situation is because they don't want to go into the tax. To go with that, the FO also isn't able to cheaply unload a player to create space under the tax.

Just want to add... without another vet center brought on board, if Dedmon has an injury weeks before Bam comes back and Miami is having to start Tucker, Morris or Yurtseven, the season is probably lost.

[AirP.]

It's like someone splashed him with some type of retromutagen;

one of the best shooter's in the world one day, no longer an NBA player the next

He's above 38% from 3pt range on the road, but at home, he's now under 22%(after tonight's game).

Maybe he read this forum and now he fears he can't live up to the expectations at home.

Nah, if you fear about living up to expectations you don't do this...

Watch on YouTube

I would actually think the difference in this particular situation is his routine because having money and being able to afford items and services much easier than before could change how/what he does before home games vs living out of hotel room on the road.

[somerandomdude]

Agreed, or start finding out what we have in Yurtz. I'm not expecting him to fill up the stat sheet, but I do expect that his size alone will help out. Plus, he's shown he can knock down the 3, which gives him potential to play alongside Bam.

I would expect that the coaching staff and FO currently knows what they have in Yurtseven and that's why he's seen a total of 41 minutes this year.

I love this talking point because now you have to accept that Duncan Robinson is playing like a superstar in practice to warrant starting him and giving him 30mpg, even though he's been worse than trash the entire season.

[AirP.]

Agreed, or start finding out what we have in Yurtz. I'm not expecting him to fill up the stat sheet, but I do expect that his size alone will help out. Plus, he's shown he can knock down the 3, which gives him potential to play alongside Bam.

I would expect that the coaching staff and FO currently knows what they have in Yurtseven and that's why he's seen a total of 41 minutes this year.

I love this talking point because now you have to accept that Duncan Robinson is playing like a superstar in practice to warrant starting him and giving him 30mpg, even though he's been worse than trash the entire season.

Robinson hasn't been trash all season, only at home(basically the same as last year). I didn't want him resigned for anywhere near what he got and would have actually been fine with him walking if Miami couldn't get an asset out of S&T. Seems there's talk that the FO wasn't nearly as sold on him as Spoelstra was.

Also, he doesn't have to play like a "superstar" in practice to get 30 minutes per game, he just has to be hitting his 3s. He's a one trick pony.

[somerandomdude]

Robinson hasn't been trash all season, only at home(basically the same as last year). I didn't want him resigned for anywhere near what he got and would have actually been fine with him walking if Miami couldn't get an asset out of S&T. Seems there's talk that the FO wasn't nearly as sold on him as Spoelstra was.

Are you referring to the stat floating around that says his shooting % on the road (38%) has been good, but not at home? That's not the same as playing good, especially when you can go 3-6 and have 50% shooting.

As for his overall play, he's had foul trouble most of the season (not all his fault, but still) and he gets beat on defense.

Overall, he's been trash all season except for 2 games, and he needs to make 7 3pters at minimum to overcome his deficiencies

Also, he doesn't have to play like a "superstar" in practice to get 30 minutes per game, he just has to be hitting his 3s.

If you want to have your cake and eat it, too, then so will I, and no one should believe that Yurtz is doing bad in practice and that it's the reason Spo isn't playing him.

The truth is, Spo is an unfair coach. There's 3 guys on our bench right now that have been outperforming Duncan on a nightly basis and they have yet to get a chance to start.

Why should anyone believe that Yurtz is bad in practice when Duncan is allowed to start and play like crap for 91% of the season while more deserving players have to come off the bench?

He's a one trick pony.

Being a one-trick pony is not worthy of a starting position and 30mpg especially when that one trick isn't working.

You can be on the bench and perform that job just fine and in limited minutes.