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Post#461 » by Bmaster » Tue Nov 5, 2024 10:51 pm

AirP. wrote:Miami plays Denver on Friday.
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That's not enough. For us to really have a chance the joker got to be dnp.
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Post#462 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Nov 5, 2024 11:06 pm

AirP. wrote:Miami plays Denver on Friday.
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So no Murray or Gordon and we’ll still find a way to lose.

Spo probably has this date circled as a night to test running the entire offense through Dru Smith
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Post#463 » by twix2500 » Tue Nov 5, 2024 11:29 pm

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He finally admits that he wanted the max contract and for the Heat to prioritize him
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Post#464 » by jbsays » Tue Nov 5, 2024 11:31 pm

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jbsays wrote:Maybe not 2019 PG, but I got to think nearly everybody thinks Bam is better than Bridges.

Still like everyone is saying... Heat aren't going to do it.


It's not a question of who is better, and I don't even think it's a matter of the Heat pulling the trigger - there just isnt a team that's going to offer that kind of package. NY paid an extra tax to acquire Bridges because it was intra-conference (city) and they already had a build in place. I'm scanning both conferences now and I can't find the single team that says Bam is the final piece to my build let me offer 4-5 firsts and a young player.


another issue might be teams he would help (i.e. Clippers or Suns) don't have the draft capital available because they've already used it.

I like Bam though. I just wish he was more aggressive.
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Post#465 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Tue Nov 5, 2024 11:53 pm

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Post#466 » by Kobewade11 » Wed Nov 6, 2024 12:08 am

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jbsays wrote:Maybe not 2019 PG, but I got to think nearly everybody thinks Bam is better than Bridges.

Still like everyone is saying... Heat aren't going to do it.


It's not a question of who is better, and I don't even think it's a matter of the Heat pulling the trigger - there just isnt a team that's going to offer that kind of package. NY paid an extra tax to acquire Bridges because it was intra-conference (city) and they already had a build in place. I'm scanning both conferences now and I can't find the single team that says Bam is the final piece to my build let me offer 4-5 firsts and a young player.


another issue might be teams he would help (i.e. Clippers or Suns) don't have the draft capital available because they've already used it.

I like Bam though. I just wish he was more aggressive.

Yea good point that's the other thing I was gonna mention, otherwise interested teams just dont have the ammo
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Post#467 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Nov 6, 2024 1:48 am

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So this is the teams mindset with the game on the line with 1 possession left but not for the other 47 and a half minutes? Confusing
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Post#468 » by jbsays » Wed Nov 6, 2024 2:37 pm

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I listened to most of the podcast yesterday at the gym. I'm not sure I'm buying all of what D Wade is selling. He said multiple teams were set up to add to max guys. You had the Knicks, Bulls, and the Heat. Wade said he didn't realize the Heat were the only team set up to sign three guys until Lebron and his guys called him.

I find it hard to believe going in to free agency Riley and Heat didn't lay it out for Wade that they were the only team that had the ability to sign three guys. Regardless whether those three were Wade, Lebron, Bosh, Carmelo, Stoudemire, or Boozer... Heat had been planning for 2-3 years to clear that cap space. It was a huge free agent class.

It was a great listen though. Another cool story Wade told is that Lebron asked him about Riley coming back to coach and Wade said something like no way... you don't want Riles. We're good with Spo.
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Post#469 » by ZoStrong » Wed Nov 6, 2024 4:17 pm

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LeBron saved this franchise and our goats legacy, that’s gonna sting for some of you :o


I listened to most of the podcast yesterday at the gym. I'm not sure I'm buying all of what D Wade is selling. He said multiple teams were set up to add to max guys. You had the Knicks, Bulls, and the Heat. Wade said he didn't realize the Heat were the only team set up to sign three guys until Lebron and his guys called him.

I find it hard to believe going in to free agency Riley and Heat didn't lay it out for Wade that they were the only team that had the ability to sign three guys. Regardless whether those three were Wade, Lebron, Bosh, Carmelo, Stoudemire, or Boozer... Heat had been planning for 2-3 years to clear that cap space. It was a huge free agent class.

It was a great listen though. Another cool story Wade told is that Lebron asked him about Riley coming back to coach and Wade said something like no way... you don't want Riles. We're good with Spo.



Ya, I don't believe anything Wade or any athlete say years after the fact. A bit of revisionist going on there. I'm sure Wade thought about other scenarios before heading into that free agency, but he never seriously considered anything. We'd at least have heard some rumors.

The fact is LeBron first tried to recruit Bosh to Cleveland and Bosh was not going there 100% and he was in our bag already. With or without LeBron Riley would've signed (and did agree to deals with the two) Bosh and Wade and go from there.

LeBron really had no move once Bosh was committed to Miami. If anything, we should appreciate Bosh more for that era. Who knows if Bosh decided to not come here n go to New York or some other place. Even Wade could've moved on at that point. So, Bosh, thank you and thank you for that one crucial rebound and not passing back to LeBron, lol
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Post#470 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Wed Nov 6, 2024 4:38 pm

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Sounds like bs. Wade has lost his mind out in hollywood. Went woke and got the mind virus.


Wade and Riley were scheming together leading up to 2010. He knew what the deal was.
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Post#471 » by wadenation305 » Wed Nov 6, 2024 5:30 pm

Whenever anyone has the slightest dream that we can land Giannis just look at that. That is not even their best offer. That's 5 picks in just one year, and it's only like a third of the picks they control.


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Post#472 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Nov 6, 2024 5:32 pm

wadenation305 wrote:Whenever anyone has the slightest dream that we can land Giannis just look at that. That is not even their best offer. That's 5 picks in just one year, and it's only like a third of the picks they control.


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Post#473 » by twix2500 » Wed Nov 6, 2024 6:01 pm

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LeBron saved this franchise and our goats legacy, that’s gonna sting for some of you :o


I listened to most of the podcast yesterday at the gym. I'm not sure I'm buying all of what D Wade is selling. He said multiple teams were set up to add to max guys. You had the Knicks, Bulls, and the Heat. Wade said he didn't realize the Heat were the only team set up to sign three guys until Lebron and his guys called him.

I find it hard to believe going in to free agency Riley and Heat didn't lay it out for Wade that they were the only team that had the ability to sign three guys. Regardless whether those three were Wade, Lebron, Bosh, Carmelo, Stoudemire, or Boozer... Heat had been planning for 2-3 years to clear that cap space. It was a huge free agent class.

It was a great listen though. Another cool story Wade told is that Lebron asked him about Riley coming back to coach and Wade said something like no way... you don't want Riles. We're good with Spo.



Ya, I don't believe anything Wade or any athlete say years after the fact. A bit of revisionist going on there. I'm sure Wade thought about other scenarios before heading into that free agency, but he never seriously considered anything. We'd at least have heard some rumors.

The fact is LeBron first tried to recruit Bosh to Cleveland and Bosh was not going there 100% and he was in our bag already. With or without LeBron Riley would've signed (and did agree to deals with the two) Bosh and Wade and go from there.

LeBron really had no move once Bosh was committed to Miami. If anything, we should appreciate Bosh more for that era. Who knows if Bosh decided to not come here n go to New York or some other place. Even Wade could've moved on at that point. So, Bosh, thank you and thank you for that one crucial rebound and not passing back to LeBron, lol


Well Bosh has said the first decision was to join Wade in Chicago, he was sold on the Bulls pitch to play with Rose, Wade, Deng, Bosh and Noah. Bosh verbally committed to Chicago until he was talked into going to Miami by Riley and Wade. That is the same reason Wade almost chose to go home to Chicago because of the same Bulls pitch. However, Wade and Bosh chose Miami because they had faith Riley to build a team. There was a question mark about Lebron, Miami was going to sign Joe Johnson if Lebron didnt show interest.

I can tell you this (same reason I knew Johnson was coming to Miami if boughtout), Miami already knew Bosh and Joe Johnson wanted to come to Miami. Its one of the reason they didnt want to overpay for Amare Stoudemire in a trade, because they knew about Bosh's interest. Heat had a deal in place to trade for Stoudemire that would of sent Beasley to Pheonix then would of targeted Johnson over the summer. This was the exact same scenerio when Heat were negotiating a trade for Lowry, they knew they could get Oladipo.

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Miller was the backup plan if they missed out on Johnson. When Lebron showed the Heat that Miami was a real consideration, that is when Pat and the big three negotiated the 5th year on their contracts. Pat told them if you forcing the 5th year which would only could be done in a sign and trade, the big three was crippling Pat ability to build. That is when Miller and Haslem was negotiated into making the contracts fit if the Heat had to trade for Bosh and Lebron and give them that 5th year.
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Post#474 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Nov 6, 2024 6:04 pm

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Post#475 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Wed Nov 6, 2024 6:06 pm

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Post#476 » by twix2500 » Wed Nov 6, 2024 6:33 pm

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Lmfao!!! Can we please get someone that can generate ANY easy looks for our guys, holy ****.



The problem is, i do not think there is a point guard out there that can do that. Butler and Bam just need to commit to being the point guards and find an experienced stretch 4 with size. Rozier and Herro have been great from 3, combine they are averaging 43% from three.

Getting someone like Cam Johnson would completely open the paint for Bam and Butler.

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Post#477 » by Voltron914 » Wed Nov 6, 2024 8:56 pm

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LeBron saved this franchise and our goats legacy, that’s gonna sting for some of you :o


I listened to most of the podcast yesterday at the gym. I'm not sure I'm buying all of what D Wade is selling. He said multiple teams were set up to add to max guys. You had the Knicks, Bulls, and the Heat. Wade said he didn't realize the Heat were the only team set up to sign three guys until Lebron and his guys called him.

I find it hard to believe going in to free agency Riley and Heat didn't lay it out for Wade that they were the only team that had the ability to sign three guys. Regardless whether those three were Wade, Lebron, Bosh, Carmelo, Stoudemire, or Boozer... Heat had been planning for 2-3 years to clear that cap space. It was a huge free agent class.

It was a great listen though. Another cool story Wade told is that Lebron asked him about Riley coming back to coach and Wade said something like no way... you don't want Riles. We're good with Spo.



everybody involved is smart not to say it was collusion because the NBA would tax the heat even more and we dont need anymore hate from that situation.i think Bron leaving was a bigger call from the owners and league than we think cause Gilbert was raising hell about the big 3
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Post#478 » by ZoStrong » Thu Nov 7, 2024 1:42 am



Well Bosh has said the first decision was to join Wade in Chicago, he was sold on the Bulls pitch to play with Rose, Wade, Deng, Bosh and Noah. Bosh verbally committed to Chicago until he was talked into going to Miami by Riley and Wade. That is the same reason Wade almost chose to go home to Chicago because of the same Bulls pitch. However, Wade and Bosh chose Miami because they had faith Riley to build a team. There was a question mark about Lebron, Miami was going to sign Joe Johnson if Lebron didnt show interest.

I can tell you this (same reason I knew Johnson was coming to Miami if boughtout), Miami already knew Bosh and Joe Johnson wanted to come to Miami. Its one of the reason they didnt want to overpay for Amare Stoudemire in a trade, because they knew about Bosh's interest. Heat had a deal in place to trade for Stoudemire that would of sent Beasley to Pheonix then would of targeted Johnson over the summer. This was the exact same scenerio when Heat were negotiating a trade for Lowry, they knew they could get Oladipo.

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Miller was the backup plan if they missed out on Johnson. When Lebron showed the Heat that Miami was a real consideration, that is when Pat and the big three negotiated the 5th year on their contracts. Pat told them if you forcing the 5th year which would only could be done in a sign and trade, the big three was crippling Pat ability to build. That is when Miller and Haslem was negotiated into making the contracts fit if the Heat had to trade for Bosh and Lebron and give them that 5th year.


Ya, Wade was interested in his hometown team Bulls, but as I understand it, it was more of a second option. I'm a bit confused by your wording.

Bosh's first decision was to join WADE in Chicago n was sold and committed? Then he backed out and was talked into coming to Miami by Riley and WADE?

I mean, if they both did go to Chicago, that's some serious contender. But like you said in the second part Wade was recruiting Bosh to come here along w Riley. That was the main plan i believe for many years. The others were just backup plans or recruiting pitches they entertained during the free agency. Why not be wined n dined? The free agency doesn't come often.

Not only that, they gotta play the recruiting game a bit otherwise Heat could get in trouble of collusion way before the free agency opened.
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Re: 2024-25 Regular Season Thread Vol. 1 

Post#479 » by MartyConlonJr » Thu Nov 7, 2024 5:29 am

So Heat have 3 wins then 3 losses where they held 13, 15 and 15 point leads in the 3rd quarter
- vs NYK, up 70-57 with 8:20 left in 3rd, finished the 3rd down 87-80.
- vs SAC, up 63-48 with 11:23 left in 3rd, finished the 3rd down 85-78.
- vs PHX, up 84-69 with 3:13 left in 3rd, finished the 3rd up 87-84.

We also have the opening night Orlando game, where we had the lead near the end of the 2nd quarter (54-52 with 1:16 left in 2nd) before getting obliterated in the 3rd to be down 97-72.

Maybe the positives are the lapses are getting later :)
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Post#480 » by MettaWorldPanda » Thu Nov 7, 2024 1:14 pm

Trade Jimmy already. This chit is over. Give this team a boost of energy. Jimmy needs the change of scenery and this team just needs to turn the page.

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